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Please leave a message on my talk page if you need help with anything! I'll be happy to help. WarBlade (talk) 22:00, February 3, 2019 (UTC)


I'm making a mess of everything this morning, here and elsewhere. Thanks for cleaning my wiki spill. Dämmerung 19:08, April 7, 2019 (UTC)


Please stop reverting changes to the Infection page. The changes are based on testing and are accurate. DemiserofD (talk) 20:15, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Ok, but why do you insist on using your descriptors? Mine is consistent with other pages. How can you guarantee that the Infection always has the halved, doubled and quadrupled effects you claim?
Ideally they'd all contain such precise numbers. After all, knowing something does 'increased damage' could mean a lot of different things.
In this case, you can see the damage differences fairly easily by looking at the stats on the variants pages, as well as ingame, especially the elemental damage, as that is effected by less parts and so tends to be more consistent across different guns per level. DemiserofD (talk) 21:54, April 12, 2019 (UTC)


Hi there! I have barely started a page for a new item called the Retainer, a hyperion rainbow roid shield. I got it from a sand worm, most likely meaning it was a world drop. I'll send a screenshot to you if you get back to me.

I guess my main point was that I'd love for you to help out in actually properly creating the page.

Lwfwarrior (talk) 23:51, June 9, 2019 (UTC) Lwfwarrior


So guessing the note for Toothpick wasn't good enough?? I just want to know

Ninja v2 (talk) 01:48, June 11, 2019 (UTC)

I don't see how the Toothpick is similar to the Sand Hawk when it doesn't have a projectile behavior (arranged and animated like a bird or becomes invisible) that is comparable. The closest comparison it has is the Pitchfork. WKPQ (talk) 02:01, June 11, 2019 (UTC)
all I was stating in the note that it was a bust with projectiles that are in a line like the sand hawk not saying it is but I do get your point on that and I wasn't saying in the note that they "are in a bird shape" it is a burst with projectiles Ninja v2 (talk) 02:06, June 11, 2019 (UTC)Ninja v2
"The gun fires and shoots identical to the Sand hawk..."
That may have been your intention but the wording doesn't match.
I'd appreciate it if you didn't undo the indentation for the sake of preference over organization. WKPQ (talk) 02:22, June 11, 2019 (UTC)

Commander Lilith & the Fight for Sanctuary

Thanks for cleaning up all my mistakes in the Commander Lilith & the Fight for Sanctuary page, and on the New Pandoran Soldiers.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Connor20705 (talkcontribs)

Deadly Bloom

I just found a Deadly Bloom Shield in a breakable vase in Dragon Keep. Somehow.

Laxxboy20 (talk) 02:02, June 20, 2019 (UTC)

Congrats. You could also ask CaptainKoby what odds did you beat in getting that. WKPQ (talk) 02:48, June 20, 2019 (UTC)


well ... you and that SUPER4geditTANK dude should get a room ... I mean ... seriously :) --SirFoggy (talk) 00:57, June 22, 2019 (UTC)

Edit Reverts Dispute

Hey there WKPQ. I've been seeing you are reverting a lot of SUPER4geditTANK's edits. I haven't personally vetted any of these, but it has seemed to cause some problems that I am now forced to deal with. I'd appreciate it if you could contact me so that I can get an understanding of the situation. If you have Discord, you can PM me at MadCrayolaz#6500, or you can leave a message on my Talk Page. Cheers.

MadCrayolaz ® 01:18, June 22, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks ...

for reviewing and editing my entries. English not even being my 3rd language, I tend to be a quick & messy writer. Thanks again. --SirFoggy (talk) 20:47, July 3, 2019 (UTC)


So you are planning to edit ALL the articles to have in-universe-style writing, right? Well, good luck! Would be a nice improvement! Aldo012345

Jakethemixels2005 Edits

Let Warblade himself correct all edits (at once) and punish the wiki member. -- Sega010 (talk) 23:52, July 24, 2019 (UTC)

I only reverted the edits because TWRAddictYT missed two. WKPQ (talk) 23:58, July 24, 2019 (UTC)
The Wiki administrator has a powerful tool to roll back all edits in one click. In this case, our help is not required if vandal works. -- Best regards, Sega010 (talk) 00:43, July 25, 2019 (UTC)

Infection Cleaner

"Not necessary"? Or "not allowed"? There a rule against pointing out such details? Now I remember why I stopped making edits on this wiki altogether a couple years back. This WarBlade guy must be hella fun to work with. Whatever. Ablake (talk) 15:02, July 27, 2019 (UTC)


I wish to discuss something with you privately, could you either tell me your Discord name or send me a message at Tephra#2372? And don't worry, it is nothing bad.
◄► Tephra ◄► 17:15, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

Editor Rewards


I'm Garrett and I'm a community manager here at Fandom.
The Gaming community team at Fandom would like to reward users like you who have really made extraordinary contributions to our platform.
To do that I'll need to email you directly to talk details.
Is it ok with you if we contact you at the email address you have listed on file for your account?

HeyTots (talk) 15:54, August 26, 2019 (UTC)

Sure. WKPQ (talk) 15:57, August 26, 2019 (UTC)

Hai thar

Not sure how you're literally always on my trail, or if (and this is probably the case) you literally spend all your time on this wiki. Either way, I actually do appreciate your edits, they help me figure out how I should word things. Sometimes you miss my intention, but it's all good, you've been here longer than me. Psychopathic Goat (talk) 02:54, September 30, 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I do spend quite some time checking the edits and I appreciate your help as well. WKPQ (talk) 03:33, September 30, 2019 (UTC)


Just wondering: I placed some captions on BL3 Legendary images, and you seem to have reverted them all to the ingame flavor text. Seems a touch rude; providing custom flavor text has been the traditional way since at least BL2, where if you check almost any legendary it has a user-submitted caption. Am I missing something? -- Glyphicality (talk) 08:37, September 30, 2019 (UTC)

A user-submitted caption are not entirely correct. These new captions are not needed if there is an fine original from the developers. Only a few new captions can overshadow the imagination of game developers. Moreover, in-game content takes precedence over personal opinions and desires. -- Sega010 (talk) 20:02, September 30, 2019 (UTC)
Also, to be blunt, the vast majority of the user-invented captions for BL2 were nonsensical / unfunny with no real relation to the item. They also confused me until I read a random talk page that happened to mention them (in the context of complaining about their existence). I kept thinking that there was some hidden set of weird quotes in the game with massively substandard writing quality that I was missing. As you mention they might not have bothered me if the legendaries didn't already have quotes built in. Double Penetrating Boloney Poney (talk) 08:00, November 9, 2019 (UTC)

BL3 Mayhem Mode modifier names

Hi! I noticed that on the Roisen's Thorns page you wrote in the notes:

" The projectiles from a Roisen's Thorns do not ricochet to the character when the Mayhem Mode Defendarius modifier is in effect. "

When I'm in mayhem mode, I don't see any modifier titles, just a list of effects. Where are these supposed to appear in the game? What this one is is easy enough to infer from the context but it might be difficult when one is used somewhere on here that isn't quite so obvious. Thanks. :D Double Penetrating Boloney Poney (talk) 08:06, November 9, 2019 (UTC)

I don't know if / where the modifier titles show up. I don't have BL3 and was using this video & timestamp as a reference on which modifier DiaboloDRemor was referring to. WKPQ (talk) 08:20, November 9, 2019 (UTC)
Yep, they're listed in that info kiosk next to the mode switcher, didn't think to look there. In the map screen where the current modifiers for the area are shown the titles aren't listed, which is why I was confused. I'm not sure why they left them out on the map screen, it just shows the stat changes... :P Double Penetrating Boloney Poney (talk) 02:01, November 10, 2019 (UTC)

Shotgun edits

becuase it has the same maga size as the bulldog that is why i compare to the bulldog —Preceding unsigned comment added by FL4KPlayZ (talkcontribs)

It's useless trivia. How does comparing the Bulldog matter to how The Garcia is used? As for The Tidal Wave & T.K's Wave, close range what? Close range examination? You're removing an important word for proper grammar for no reason. Why should "close-range combat" be reserved for melee attacks? WKPQ (talk) 19:51, November 12, 2019 (UTC)
Aside from trying to keep the sentence from failing at grammar, I've been reverting those edits because "close-range combat" doesn't imply melee in modern English, or even the contemporary English of my great-grandparents. I posted it elsewhere, but Wikipedia says:
"In modern times, (since World War II), the term "close combat" has also come to describe unarmed hand-to-hand combat, as well as combat involving firearms and other distance weapons when used at short range."
Double Penetrating Boloney Poney (talk) 12:18, November 13, 2019 (UTC)

Hellfire drop source

My apologies.

After further research since my edit it seems that I was wrong (about the Hellfire/Jabbermogwai link). But it seems to only be available in Mayhem Mode, not in Normal mode. Seems like important information but I wouldn't know how to add that. Sorry.

NitroNick8 (talk) 22:15, November 25, 2019 (UTC)

No worries. I've edited the conditions on obtaining the weapon. WKPQ (talk) 22:32, November 25, 2019 (UTC)


May want to change

The flavor text is a reference to the "Moonfire" hand cannons in the 2014 video game Destiny.

to Hawkmoon since there is no Moonfire hand cannons in Destiny 1

Ninja v2 (talk) 22:59, November 27, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that. It's now fixed. WKPQ (talk) 23:06, November 27, 2019 (UTC)

Heart Breaker

do you think you can add to the Heart Breaker for borderlands 3 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tappyborderlandsgirl (talkcontribs)

I don't have the game so I can't add a description for the special effect or usage. There's also isn't much discussion on Youtube or Reddit on the weapon. Anything that I can add is already on the page. WKPQ (talk) 19:23, December 17, 2019 (UTC)
What are you trying to do by removing the template and renaming the page? You're making more of a mess by refusing to leave the page as it is. WKPQ (talk) 20:46, December 17, 2019 (UTC)

The Hunt(ed)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGaPqibFd0w its not so big, its so loud —Preceding unsigned comment added by ItmeAj (talkcontribs)

That's Borderlands 2. In Borderlands 1, it's: "So big, so angry, so dead." when he kills a badass enemy; the page has a direct link to the quote. If The Hunt(ed) and The Hunt(er) were meant to reference the BL2 version, why does The Hunt(er) reference the BL1 version? WKPQ (talk) 07:16, January 7, 2020 (UTC)

Mission Complete

Hello, I think we should undo your last change since on this wiki, every time this sentence is written for any mission, we always write "complete" as I wrote and not "completed" as you wrote, even if both are technically correct. FlorianAliasJoe (talk) 16:49, January 15, 2020 (UTC)FlorianAliasJoe



I am new here but I use this wiki since BL2. Can I update the images to lvl50 ones to be able to compare the items for the builds ?


Phoetaim (talk) 01:31, January 22, 2020 (UTC)Phoetaim

You should be able to, but you should also ask Sega010 or WarBlade as they would know more about this. WKPQ (talk) 01:39, January 22, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for Cleanup

Thank you WKPQ for cleaning up the Mayhem Mode page after me. I did not realize that my spelling of recieve receive was wrong. Making the terminology more consistent with the rest of the wiki is greatly appreciated!

Esterdell (talk) 09:49, February 2, 2020 (UTC)Esterdell

You're welcome! WKPQ (talk) 21:05, February 2, 2020 (UTC)


Thank you, WKPQ for editing my flawed post on borderlands wiki. I’m sorry if my punctuation and formatting was off. I’m quite new to fandom and editing.

Thank you,

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Pugsnstuf (talkcontribs)

No worries & you're welcome! WKPQ (talk) 15:14, February 11, 2020 (UTC)

Grenade prefixes

Whats wrong with having prefixes listed on the grenade pages? Hex grenade has them. Legomike (talk) 08:16, February 12, 2020 (UTC)

That's because the Hex has limited number of prefixes and there's an explanation of how each prefix affects the grenade's behaviour. Neither of your edits gave an explanation.
Why is it important that a Widowmaker can spawn with the MIRV prefix?
Why is it important that a Firestorm can spawn with a Rain prefix? WKPQ (talk) 17:29, February 12, 2020 (UTC)


I know loaders have genders, because that one loader, R-0513 exists, that means loaders can have genders. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Commander Drake (talkcontribs)

Loaders can be programmed to act with a gender, but that doesn't mean that all loaders have a gender. What does a Gun loader or Badass loader have that makes it a male being? WKPQ (talk) 07:28, February 26, 2020 (UTC)


I appreciate your efforts to contribute to the Hangin' Chadd page, but your insistence on adding a subject to a bullet point list doesn't add anything more than fluff. Since all the points refer to the same thing, ading a subject to each bullet point is just unnecessary padding.

Also, zoom is a property of the sights, even though you do zoom in when you use them, you're still using the sights so I believe that referring to aiming down sights is more accurate.

Aderonofpercedal (talk) 10:44, March 18, 2020 (UTC)

Dual Status Effects

Hello, i am Hercules40 and am a long time lurker. I joined because i saw some articles (ex: Sellout) with confusing wording about special effects.

With my cited example, it said Always Incendiary and Corrosive and after testing out i understood it meant that the weapon firing modes are always these two, but by reading i understood that every single shot was dual element like Florentine. Thus where can i submit a suggestion about elucidading these effects?

Hercules40 (talk) 12:18, March 22, 2020 (UTC)

I think in a case like this, seeking out the contributors who update weapon articles frequently could be something to explore. User:WKPQ makes numerous cleanup style edits for example. -- WarBlade (talk) 05:45, March 23, 2020 (UTC)
So Warblade suggested me to talk with you, what can we do about that?
Hercules40 (talk) 20:22, March 23, 2020 (UTC)
For the Hellshock and Sellout, those are written with the assumption that the reader knows what Maliwan's alt-fire is. I believe those should remain as it is as none of the unique or legendary Maliwan weapons have a special effect that works in the same way as the Florentine or Chulainn.
If a weapon from a future DLC does deal both elements at the same time, it will have a similar description to the Florentine/Chulainn for its special effect. WKPQ (talk) 09:56, March 24, 2020 (UTC)

Aurelia (Borderlands 3)

Hi, I only just started attempting to help with the wiki and sought to add the Aurelia page as a disambiguous page for loot as well as general strategy in relation to her as a boss specifically and not as part of the quest she is the focus of. I'm having trouble formatting the page correctly for this purpose, but I don't intend to leave it blank. If you can give me any pointers or a reference/template that I can use that doesn't just sort of fall apart when imported It'd be greatly appreciated!

Reaver1990 (talk) 21:09, March 24, 2020 (UTC)

Most of the other mission-specific enemies have the strategies on the mission page and loot drops on the character page. I don't see how making a separate page will do anything other than fragmenting the information.
As for page formatting, using the source editor instead of rich text or visual makes it easier to understand how templates work & the desktop preview will show what the page will look like when the edit is published. WKPQ (talk) 22:03, March 24, 2020 (UTC)
While the mission-specific enemies have the strageties listed, the majority seem to be left blank. This implies that the placement is in error and it may be healthier to have more unique enemy information in their appropriate and non-mission specific pages as the wiki has for most mini-bosses and bosses. Thank you for the tips. Reaver1990 (talk) 23:52, March 24, 2020 (UTC)

About the Rudiger page

I didn't know it was the standard. I just thought it was made by an editor who didn't know what they were doing and no one noticed. Sorry, but at the same time it's not very fun to try and edit stuff when it's all crammed inside of the editing format of an infobox. AmirFreeman2017 (talk) 12:03, March 25, 2020 (UTC)

You should change to source editor if you're using the visual or rich-text editor. The Character infobox becomes much easier to edit in source mode. WKPQ (talk) 20:18, March 25, 2020 (UTC)


Thanks for cleaning up my messes! Still learnin' over here 

Laxxboy20 (talk) 00:10, March 27, 2020 (UTC) Laxxboy20

You're welcome! WKPQ (talk) 00:31, March 27, 2020 (UTC)


Hello WKPQ, I'm fairly new to editing the wiki as I just figured out how to do it somewhat efficiently. I was just wondering why you make it a habit to edit nearly every single page I create. The pages already have clear, concise and above all correct information about the enemies that the page is based around. I don't see many of the edits as needed because they just reword what is already stated, sometimes in an even more confusing or incorrect way. Fore example, I recently created pages on the 3 unique Grogans that accompany the Mother of Grogans rare spawn.  For the first two, Rage and Dreg you changed "It strafes back and forth, breathing fire on the Vault Hunter" to "...attack the Vault Hunter by breathing fire and strafes back and forth". This not only changes one specific attack to 2 distinct attacks, but isnt even correct english. However, my biggest problem is on the Vice page. You just copy and pasted the same aforementioned line onto this page. However, this is wrong Vice does not breathe fire, but instead has cryo attacks. So i guess I'm just wondering why you made an edit on a page you didn't know much about? With all this being said I do appreciate all your insightful edits that keep the wiki uniform and easy to use. Thank you again. 

BrianTheBoss200 (talk) 01:11, March 27, 2020 (UTC)

Old God

based on this Old God 


it seems like it's always Shock resistance, Shock damage, 25% elemental resistance.

Dont wanna edit till sure though.

Laxxboy20 (talk) 05:44, March 27, 2020 (UTC)

Gear Prefixes Borderlands 3 - Deleting / Changing content before completion

WKPQ, The reason I was upset was because you were editing my Page before I could even finish 1 Item type. Each time you did this It would not allow me to save the edits I had made. The external link is a `placeolder` until I could correctly get all the info onto the correct section. 

As for the `2009` comment, I apologize, thank you for explaining, but on my end it showed up under Borderlands 3 content, so I`m not sure ow it could be from 2009, or there is an error showing it in the wrong place for me, since bl3 was not release until late 2019.

So I will attempt once more to get this info onto this wiki, Lets work together instead of fighting. Im not "stuck on owning" a page, I`m stuck on being able to control the title of my own post, and finish putting all gathered information on it before it is edited by another, causing me to re-do all my work. Lebben (talk) 02:50, April 1, 2020 (UTC)

I'm also willing to work together.
I was renaming the page as the original title was too informal. I recommend using "Items by prefix (Borderlands 3)" as the page title if you're also going to include shield, artifact, class mod and grenade prefixes.
As for your comment on the Candidates for deletion talk page, I take it that I have your permission to remove it now that we've cleared things up? WKPQ (talk) 03:19, April 1, 2020 (UTC)

           Yes to both...Im gettin tired, please dont name the title weapons, call it items if you dont like gear is all, Im adding the shields in the morning. Lebben (talk) 03:38, April 1, 2020 (UTC)

Law trivia

I recently changed the Law (Borderlands 2) trivia phrasing to make the phrase being referenced more clear. I explained my reasoning in the edit note. You did not explain your reasoning for undoing it. I will change it back, since you made a number of good edits all at once and may simply have overlooked that detail. If you feel like the phrasing is inappropriate for some reason, please discuss or include your reasoning in the edit note. Thanks. -jerodast (talk) 03:13, April 16, 2020 (UTC)

I changed it back as the indirect reference makes the sentence focus directly on what the reference is, rather than having to redundantly mention the flavor text again. Personally, "Law's "De Da"" implies that the weapon has several potential flavor texts.
Your current edit is much better and I won't be undoing it. WKPQ (talk) 03:55, April 16, 2020 (UTC)

Borderlands 3 location descriptions.

Hi, I just went through all Borderlands 3 locations in the wiki and added/standardized the in-game descriptions listed but I ran into two problems and was hoping you could give me some advice.

The first is that the place these quotes are located on the pages makes it look a little weird, I put the missing/weird ones where the majority is located but it's very close to the opening text which makes it look kind of squashed.

The second problem is that I have no clue where to put the Borderlands 3 description of Pandora since the page has no section dedicated to the specific game and just putting it at the top (like the rest of the pages) feels weird but it might be the easier solution. Thank you for your time. Lord Inioch (talk) 05:44, April 30, 2020 (UTC)

You could try placing the quotes at the top of the page, before the introductory paragraph. It didn't look squashed when I checked it with the desktop preview.
For Pandora, also placing it at the top is probably the best solution, but the template parameter has to be changed from the standard "game" to "Borderlands 3 in-game description". WKPQ (talk) 12:23, April 30, 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll do that later.
Also before I forget, would there be any place/use in putting the couple of words long area descriptor (which are strangely empty for the DLC1 areas) somewhere on the page? For example Covenant Pass is called "Repurposed Dahl Facility", Lectra City is called "Seaport District" and Blackbarrel Cellars is called "Private Property". Or are these too minor to be used? All galaxy locations are simply called "Planet" with the exception of Slaughterstar 3000 (Maliwan Dreadnought), The Handsome Jackpot (Space Station), Joey's Planet (Cartel Hideout), Midnight's Cairn (Maliwan Blacksite) and all 6 "Eridian Proving Ground"(s). Thanks again! Lord Inioch (talk) 19:23, April 30, 2020 (UTC)
Except for galaxy locations that only have "Planet", those could go under the Trivia section. WKPQ (talk) 19:39, April 30, 2020 (UTC)
Did the above, wasn't too sure how I should word the trivia part but I managed to come up with something that sounded ok at least, feel free to review them. Lord Inioch (talk) 00:43, May 1, 2020 (UTC)

Minor corrections for challenge data

Hi WKPQ - thanks for posting my challenge data.

A few minor corrections to make:

Scratch An Eldritch (Bonded Enemy Challenges) - 1250 is the value for level 3, not level 4. 100% confirmed (I have it on my game screen right now)

Eyes Up (Enemy Challenges) - Level 5 is 1250.

Mech Wrecker (Maliwan Enemy Challenges) - Level 3 is 150, not 450. Likewise 100% confirmed.

Loot the Six Galaxies (Loot Challenges) - minor typo, level 5 has a J instead of a K.

I'm continuing to grind away at the challenges, I'll post my findings for the remaining 15 here as I get them.

My post currently flagged as "Candidates for deletion" - I can't find a way to delete it myself. Do you have to do that on your end? If so, please do so.

Thanks again for your help!

Lethal Larry (talk) 21:03, May 24, 2020 (UTC)

For Scratch an Eldritch, can you confirm is 3,000 is the requirement for level 4 or 5?
For Mech Wrecker, can you confirm if 450 is the requirement for level 4?
I've got an edit ready to be published with your corrections.
Your page was flagged as a candidate for deletion as I don't see how making a separate page could cover anything that the main page can't. If you're having difficulty editing the main page, I recommend using the source editor instead of visual (Hover over your icon on the top right -> My preferences -> Editing -> Editing experience -> Preferred editor: Source editor). WKPQ (talk) 21:39, May 24, 2020 (UTC)
I've just finished my first runthough with this character, after 900 hours of gameplay, ready to start again in TVHM - I've finished almost all the challenges but I'm only at 896 Bonded (level 2) and 91 mechs (also level 2) - I'll be able to confirm the numbers you requested sooner or later, but it might take a while with the mechs.... it's hard to find a place where there's a reliable quantity of them. 
Regarding the page for deletion, that's fine, I agree it should be deleted - I just didn't know how to post it properly since I'm not very adept with this system. There's a number of things that I expect to be pretty straightforward, which turn out to be surprisingly obscure.... things like deleting pages.
Lethal Larry (talk) 23:34, May 24, 2020 (UTC)
Health and Recovery:
The Third Degree 5 10 20 45 75
Vicarious Defibrilation 5 10 20 45 75
Enemy Challenges:
Eyes Up 50 125 375 750 1250
Hyperion Enemies: 
Should've Cashed Out 150 450 1250 2500 4000
Tear You Down to Build You Up 5 15 25 45 75
Shotgun Challenges:
Close and Personal 25 75 250 1000


I have seven more numbers to find, in these 5 categories:
Bonded (levels 4 and 5) 
Surveyors (level 5) 
Turrets (level 5) 
Mechs (level 4 and 5) 
NOGs (level 5)  
Lethal Larry (talk) 15:32, May 26, 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I've added those to the edit. If it's ok with you, I'd like to keep your initial table format; I find it easier to read with the challenges & numbers spaced out. The table was broken because of the space between :: and {| in the source text. WKPQ (talk) 15:59, May 26, 2020 (UTC)
For some reason, this time when I pasted the data in here from my spreadsheet, the formatting was very different, laden with code and whatnot. It looked fine when I pasted it, but it looked like broken code when I hit Publish. I ended up manually re-entering it. 
I have another updated number - I'll show you how the paste ends up going haywire....
Hyperion Enemy Challenges:
No-Point Defense 25 50 150 225


Lethal Larry (talk) 05:40, May 27, 2020 (UTC)
Bonded Enemy Challenges:
SCRATCH AN ELDRITCH 150 450 1250 2000 3000
Lethal Larry (talk) 23:50, May 27, 2020 (UTC)
Looks like there's a typo in Amara's challenges :
Chicken Soup Steal life from enemies with Amara's Soul Sap skill. 1k 5k 25k 10k 500k
That 4th level would have to be 100k, I'd guess. Haven't played Amara yet, tho, so I can't confirm.
Lethal Larry (talk) 20:05, May 28, 2020 (UTC)

Skills in BL3

Okay, I think that guy won`t answer for a long time, so I`ll just copy my message to you)

I`ve just added all skill trees in RU wiki with all actual numbers and I recommend you to check all skills in your wiki because many skills values have changed since September. Here`s skill trees for Zane, Amara, FL4K and Moze. I think russian language won`t be a problem :)

Thanks, I'll do what I can to check the numbers, but you should also send this to Sega010. Sega is on both versions of the wiki and it should be easier for them to read both languages. WKPQ (talk) 18:07, May 30, 2020 (UTC)


Sorry about screwing up the Tunguska linking on Mincemeat! Thanks for checking my work.

Darchiasq (talk) 21:44, July 23, 2020 (UTC)

You're welcome! WKPQ (talk) 21:51, July 23, 2020 (UTC)

Second Bad Touch

I wanted to ask someone before making the edit, but I believe it's possible to get a second Bad Touch without a co-op player. Just a few minutes ago, I tipped Moxxi on my solo Gaige file, and she gave me a Bad Touch. But this was the second Bad Touch gun I've gotten, and in fact she's never given me a Good Touch on this playthrough. My current point in the game is Where Angels Fear to Tread. I wanted to ask if you knew if this was normal or not, because... Yeah.~Tora (To4oo4) (talk) 17:58, July 24, 2020 (UTC)

I don't know if it is or not. WKPQ (talk) 18:17, July 24, 2020 (UTC)

Thank You

Thanks for fixing the errors I've made; I'm looking at what you do so I can improve my own editing. So, thank you and sorry.~Tora (To4oo4) (talk) 12:56, July 28, 2020 (UTC)

No worries & you're welcome! WKPQ (talk) 13:03, July 28, 2020 (UTC)

Old/New Hyperion

Old and New Hyperion are still just called Hyperion in-game. To be honest, I don't even remember them ever being called Old Hyperion or New Hyperion other than one time, maybe. But yeah, they're both just called Hyperion, brand-wise.~Tora (To4oo4) (talk) 17:40, July 28, 2020 (UTC)

I was thinking of that as well, but Sega seems to have a reason to disagree.
As for Bandit/Scav vs bandit/scav, there's an explanation for that. WKPQ (talk) 17:48, July 28, 2020 (UTC)

I didn't know about that bandit/scav thing, my bad. I personally think that's kinda dumb... But the explanation makes too much sense for me to ignore, so... Thanks. Also, yeah, dunno why Sega's removing the infoboxes. They may still both be Hyperion, but they're distinctly different.~Tora (To4oo4) (talk) 18:41, July 28, 2020 (UTC)

I just looked at some of the files in-game. It appears that the code differentiates between old and new Hyperion, sort-of. Old and New Hyperion are still the same manufacturer from what I can tell, but the game differentiates between them in some of the weapon parts. There's "Hyperion" and "Old_Hyperion". I'm not sure if it does this for class mods, though. Looking at class mods, I've only seen ones that use Hyperion, no Old_Hyperion stuff.~Tora (To4oo4) (talk) 14:48, July 29, 2020 (UTC)
Yes, "new" Hyperion and "old" Hyperion technically are different manufacturers, "GD_Manufacturers.Manufacturers.Hyperion" and "GD_Manufacturers.Manufacturers.Hyperion_Old" respectively. Therefore, they have different sets of titles, prefixes and materials. -- Sega010 (talk) 15:13, July 29, 2020 (UTC)
They are not different manufacturers. If they were different manufacturers, then there would be two different manufacturer values. Hyperion_Old falls under the Hyperion manufacturer.~Tora (To4oo4) (talk) 16:47, July 29, 2020 (UTC)
However, not-a-manufacturer has own set of titles, prefixes, materials and another shooting mechanic. -- Sega010 (talk) 19:09, July 29, 2020 (UTC)
I didn't know about the different shooting mechanic thing, I must've missed something in-game. I'll concede then that code-wise, they're different manufacturers. But I think they should still be considered the same manufacturer, and that new and old should be considered... Something like sub-manufacturers, I dunno, because they *are* still both Hyperion, just different times.~Tora (To4oo4) (talk) 19:19, July 29, 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I checked just now, they have the same shooting mechanic; they both have sustained fire increases accuracy. You sure they're different manufacturers in the code, Sega?~Tora (To4oo4) (talk) 12:46, July 30, 2020 (UTC)
Visual similarity in shooting is not proof that they are the same manufacturer. I will find those screenshots of the target shooting. Shooting at the wall-target wall clearly shows how the weapon actually fires.
And yes, "old" Hyperion still has its own set of names, prefixes and materials. How can you doubt?
-- Sega010 (talk) 13:23, July 30, 2020 (UTC)
Could you like... Stop pretending I'm saying things that I didn't say? I never said they have visual similarilities. I said both old and new Hyperion weapons have ON THEIR WEAPON CARD "SUSTAINED FIRE INCREASES ACCURACY". Also, old Hyperion and new Hyperion having different names can like... Easily be that they're still the same Hyperion manufacturer. Here is a screenshot of an old Hyperion shotgun. And here is a screenshot of a new Hyperion shotgun. As you can see, they're both Hyperion. They both have the same shooting mechanic. How can you doubt? Furthermore, I tested what you were saying. The targeting still behaves identically.~Tora (To4oo4) (talk) 13:56, July 30, 2020 (UTC)

Weapon Attributes

The attribute of the weapon is called the "rate of fire". You are seriously saying that the item cards have such another attribute as the "rates of fire". Can you show at least one weapon card with this parameter? -- Sega010 (talk) 21:22, August 17, 2020 (UTC)

Sega, how about you show that you're capable of understanding the English grammatical system before you keep undoing people's grammatical corrections?~Tora (To4oo4) (talk) 21:25, August 17, 2020 (UTC)
To4oo4, speculatiuons. Again. -- Sega010 (talk) 21:40, August 17, 2020 (UTC)
What can be incomprehensible: several weapons, but one attribute? You are not talking about several values of one attribute, and this is most likely your spelling mistake. -- Sega010 (talk) 21:40, August 17, 2020 (UTC)
You've failed to show you're capable of using proper grammar, so how about you trust the people who actually know how to use proper English? Your argument makes no sense, and your grammar is subpar.~Tora (To4oo4) (talk) 21:43, August 17, 2020 (UTC)
The sentence is talking about Hyperion sniper rifles in general. You're going to tell me that across all common models, rarities & part configurations, Hyperion sniper rifles always have the same fire rate? Even if they did, the sentence would have to be fixed as "The Transaction has a low fire rate" or "Hyperion sniper rifles have a low fire rate". WKPQ (talk) 21:56, August 17, 2020 (UTC)
"Hyperion sniper rifles have a low fire rate". -- Ok, let's use it. Just a little bit changed, and became correct. Great. -- Thank you, Sega010 (talk) 22:13, August 17, 2020 (UTC)
I mean, we already had it corrected, Sega. Just saying. I hope to see you in the Discord soon.~Tora (To4oo4) (talk) 22:15, August 17, 2020 (UTC)
To4oo4, are you still unhappy? -- Sega010 (talk) 22:19, August 17, 2020 (UTC)
Nah, I just have trouble letting things go. Sorry, man. I'm fine now.~Tora (To4oo4) (talk) 22:20, August 17, 2020 (UTC)
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