If you have anything to say then go ahead, they gave me a whole page 4 it so might aswell use it :)

Id appreciate any help regarding small pics for sigs, admin only thing i dont no....

Also if you happen to view my "Skagzilla the easy way" video please rate and comment if you can

I wasn't trying to spam anything, my name'll move off the top of the recent changes log soon enough. And what would a higher edit count accomplish for me? I was only trying to help with navigation, in a way I saw used on other wikis. I stated my thoughts days ago on Borderlands_Wiki:Needhelp and in edit summaries for Template:Enemies (which showed up in the edit log too). And then, with no other input, and considering this is a wiki and there's no permanent damage I could do, yeah, I went ahead. 31stCenturyMatt 14:17, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

All im saying it that it wasnt necessary, no problems with navigation have yet to cause concern and as a result the enemy tables you have undoubtedly placed on a high number of pages will be rarely if ever used and perhaps even NOTICED

Signature Designs

J-nox final 2.png J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png Sig v.png


J-nox final 2.png < 1st success may design more in future :)

J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png < 2nd success but still instead of linking to a page it instead takes you to the image file?!?! help

J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png < 3rd success and final hopefully, links are correct im sure, should have read wiki help long ago lol

Attempting to reduce amount of code... SUCCESS!!!!

J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 18:12, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for previous sigs leaving the Added photos in recent changes feed

No, sigs aren't an admin only thing. You'll need to create a subpage of your user page (such as User:J-NoX/sig) and put in what you want your sig to be there. Then, create another, like User:J-NoX/sig_preferences with the content ++:User:J-NoX/sig++ as it's content (with +s replaced by {s and }s). I can do this for you, but you then need to go to Special:Preferences and scroll down to the "Signature" section. Check the box that says "Use custom signature" or whatever, and put ++SUBST::User:J-NoX/sig preferences++ in the above box (again, +s replaced with {s and }s). If there's any problems, we can work 'em out. -- ClaptrapTorgueSig.png Claptrap icon.jpg Jakobscoveclaptrapz.jpg 02:37, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: Pages are all set, all that's left is for you to edit your preferences. -- ClaptrapTorgueSig.png Claptrap icon.jpg Jakobscoveclaptrapz.jpg 02:42, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

ill try it now although bit confused with the ++ part[[File:J-nox_sig.png]]

Replace the brackets with braces "{/}" (To get braces, hold Shift and click the bracket keys) Fenrakk Sig.png 03:22, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Tried using braces on the rhe above sig [[File etc... red text about template missing anyways if we were ever able to get my sig going how do u go about having the talk and contribs links in there? i got a design, way too big i no but more detail purposes will keep large to show u guys J-nox final 2.png

EDIT: woo she works but as you can see i hace icons for talk page and contributions, how do i get them to link to those pages, can it be done with one image??

As far as I know, it can't be done with one image. You'd need to split the image into three different images and put them side by side, making each one a link to a different page. -- ClaptrapTorgueSig.png Claptrap icon.jpg Jakobscoveclaptrapz.jpg 20:04, March 7, 2010 (UTC)


Edit: just noticed everytime i use my signature it adds the 3 images that make it up to the page i've left it on, any solution? J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png User:J-NoX/Talk sig


Did you make all those images on your user page and sig yourself? If so, fantastic work. Fenrakk Sig.png 02:15, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

indeed i did, i do enjoy some designing here and there, i particularly like the borderland logo with the lasers but it does need a little bit more work anyway i appreciate you comment :) J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png User:J-NoX/Talk sig

No problem, they really are good. I'm guessing you use Photoshop? Fenrakk Sig.png 02:27, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

i can use photoshop but for these images i did not, i like to model my designs in 3-d, makes them looks nicer i think, you can move and play around with a 3-d object rather than having to design a new position in 2-d J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png User:J-NoX/Talk sig

WHat program do you use? Also, your sig is broken. Fenrakk Sig.png 22:40, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

3d max and broken?? how can it be fixed would appreciate any help

Claptrap was showing you how to use the {User:J-Nox/sig} thing, but I guess you're not using it. Your sig leaves a huge note in the source. Fenrakk Sig.png 22:59, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

i use it, when i asked about the 3 links and 3 images i altered the user:j-nox/sig page to 3 images with the individual links, i inputted the {{User: j-nox etc in the preferences and the result in what ive got now, im not ure how to correct it J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png User:J-NoX/Talk sig 23:03, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

I think I can see the problem Gimme a few minutes and I'll see what I can do. Fenrakk Sig.png 23:11, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: Put this into your Signature box in Preferences (Check the Custom Signature box under that as well)


Also, just a quick test here: User:J-Nox/sig

Fenrakk Sig.png 23:15, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

Tried the preference thing didnt work, all i see when i type ma sig is whats in the pref box, also what i do with the page??

Ummm... you're not supposed to see your sig. Just put "" in your Sig Preferences box. Fenrakk Sig.png 23:42, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

hmm ok well heres the sig >> 00:03, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

Did you check the Custom Signature box under it? Fenrakk Sig.png 00:23, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

The treat signiature as wiki text" yep it was checked

THe box should read Custom signature (Check this box to create a custom signature in the field above. The signature uses the same wiki markup that a regular page does, including links.) Fenrakk Sig.png 00:40, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

not on mine it doesnt > screenshot File:Sig problem.png

Uncheck the box. Fenrakk Sig.png 01:08, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

unchecked lets see > {{SUBST:User:J-nox/sig_preferences}}

EDIT: till no change

No, it's changed. Lemme see what's wrong. Fenrakk Sig.png 01:29, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

ok , the sig image actually shower up with J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png in prefs just had the long code and added images were ever i left it

EDIT: Template:SU BST :Us er:J -No X/sig (spaced)

My Designs

Just made new section were I can add my borderlands related designs, fell free to comment J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png

Next Wiki logo perhaps LOL

Messing around in 3D

Custom Userbox area - First 1 on Borderlands Wiki

Shows the links between locations

My first userpage image

Borderlands logo with lasers

One of my favourites

Design Comments

not bad. see if you can chop it up and link the parts then reassemble with tables. just a thought. looks good.   Dr. F    Chemicalweapon.png   Wordpress shovel.png   Boston globe bullhorn.png  05:03, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Dr.F thanks for your complement but what exactly do you mean, make to userboxs links to related pages i.e Roland the solider redirects to Roland home page??J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 05:06, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

yes, exactly that.   Dr. F    Chemicalweapon.png   Wordpress shovel.png   Boston globe bullhorn.png  05:16, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

ill try and get to it tonight, going to be a pain cutting the images up lol J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 15:25, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: hmm its proving troublesome, i have broken my image up into several and started uploading onto a sperae page but for some reason there is a gap between them vertically, i check the source and everythings fine but still the gap?? J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 02:36, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

which page?   Dr. F    Chemicalweapon.png   Wordpress shovel.png   Boston globe bullhorn.png  03:01, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

User:J-NoX/Custom Userbox Design, i did a small sample so you can see whats wrong, as in the source there are no gaps or spaces but when previewed images are not were they should be J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 03:10, March 18, 2010 (UTC)


I can find out how to make userboxes; it's not too hard, I just gotta find the page. Fenrakk Sig.png 00:12, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Found it.

To make a userbox, follow these steps:

  • Make a new page titled Template:(name of your template)
  • Use this page to help make a userbox on your new page (Copy/paste the chart and fill in the parameters)
  • You can use your userbox by putting Template:(name of your template) onto your page.

Both "name of your template" spaces must be the same. Fenrakk Sig.png 00:16, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ty but i was thinking more along the lines of a whole new style/theme rather than the small pic left and text box to the right with 1 colour for each etc, i had 3d themes in mind J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png

...I don't understand what you're saying. You want 3d userboxes? That's not a Borderlands Wiki project, that's a Wikia project. Fenrakk Sig.png 00:24, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

I just think it beats the dull 2d ones, surely wikia have the facilities to let users create such a thing? J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png

Nope. If you want a 3d userbox, you will have to make a 2d userbox look 3d and upload the image. Fenrakk Sig.png 00:32, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

lols that what ive been talking about, a 3d (theme) userbox, it would be in 2d when on the site but it would have the appearance of a 3d box, maybe the shadow,glow,reflection, lighting etc, to have an actuall 3d userbox the site would need to be in 3d lol, so in otherwords how do you upload your own design instead of going off the two coloured boxes J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png

You make a 2d userbox, save it as an image, edit it so its 3d, upload to wiki. Fenrakk Sig.png 00:53, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

thats the part i alrdy know how to do but how do i make it an actual userbox so others if they want could use, atm its just an image J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png

Impossible. Fenrakk Sig.png 01:08, March 12, 2010 (UTC)


not to harsh your buzz, but is the skagzilla page acceptable now?   Dr. F    Chemicalweapon.png   Wordpress shovel.png   Boston globe bullhorn.png  00:46, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

It was acceptable before i just wanted a reason why it was altered before and they did not provide one ( justified ), personally can i ask are you having trouble understanding/reading the page, are the added videos causing you distress because of the adding scrolling time ? not referring to the previous argument just your opinion J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 01:19, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

give me a bit to review the paragraph and such in history. and i have _no_ opinion on this or any page (a white lie) as i am, in effect, an arbitrator.   Dr. F    Chemicalweapon.png   Wordpress shovel.png   Boston globe bullhorn.png  01:26, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
We gave you perfectly good reasons why the videos were removed, and you flamed us. Fenrakk Sig.png 01:22, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

good reasons ?? you mean the text displacement and scrolling time lol please, and is was a two way argument my dear boy and flaming.. i was simply stating my argument and a good one at that dont you think J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png

You stated nothing. You acted as though we were completely wrong. If you had taken the time to try and consider things from our point of view, we wouldn't be arguing right now. I don't think your argument was good. You were being stubborn. You acted as though your actions were 100% justified and you were correct, and we were completely wrong. Fenrakk Sig.png 01:28, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Your acting the same way as if you are 100% right and i was wrong , you continued to reinforce your argument and continued trying to justify your reasons instead of seeing things from my point of view so dont think that applies to just me .., Also i tried to understand your reasons but they just werent justified, however small the issue the reasons you both gave were useless as i said above, the resulted changes from my additions long ago had no problem at all , note the underline and bold font, it was nothing more than a change, alteration, modification, addition which ever you choose it did not cause a problem J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 01:34, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

I repeated the argument because I felt you were not trying to see things from our point of view. And technically, we never even removed the video, so your argument was practically invalid to begin with. Fenrakk Sig.png 01:37, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
(EDIT) Actually, the reason I replied the way I did was because you did not support your argument. You told us why we shouldn't have removed it, but never once why it should have been in the article. You told us you got a lot of views, but that's beneficial to you and not the wiki, so you really can't use it to justify your argument. Fenrakk Sig.png 01:39, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

What benefit do i get from the views of my video......... none so im not sure what your talking about there, i used the number of my views as a piece of evidence to show it was in regular use thats it and why should a regularly watched video be taken out??? And regarding my paragraph about a method for killing skagzilla along with the video i thought it being in the article was obvious.... because its useful and relevant to the topic, 1 useful as its a method for killing skagzilla and 2 its relevant because its about skagzilla ?!?!!? J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 01:53, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

About the videos, tell me one thing. Did you even know that your videos weren't removed, but just moved to links instead of being embedded?
As for the paragraph, it was removed for several reasons. One reason is because it was written in first-person, which is against wikia policy. It was also very difficult to follow and confusing; do you jump onto the ledge you fell down from? If so, I tried that, it's impossible. I think you would have been better off making a video of it, because the paragraph was simply difficult to understand. Fenrakk Sig.png 01:56, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ill ask my question first, to what section of my paragraph are you referring when you said " do you jump onto the ledge you fell down from" now the rest..

Sorry but i laughed quite hard from your last comment, you say you found it hard to understand and in your opinion is was impossible and that i should have made a video of that? haha if you had bothered to compare the 2 you would have noticed the video is about the paragraph i had written but if your finding it hard to understand i can edit the video to have the lines of my paragraph displayed when necessary, maybe add a few seconds pause so you can fully understand it ?? J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png

I was referring to what you said about "Fall down the ledge and walk backwards and grenade jump onto the ledge". And I did not match your video with the paragraph. and you did not refer to what I said about the paragraph being written in first person. Did you at last see things from my side? *gasp* Fenrakk Sig.png 02:19, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

I will grant you that, i did not know that i could not right a paragraph in first person, i apologise for that as for your problem with understanding my method this is exactly how i wrote it in my paragraph "as you make your way over the bridge and come to the area were you drop down to fight skagzilla, take a few steps back and grenade jump onto the top of that area" i did not say fall down anywhere, that was your mistake. Also regarding your "I did not match your video with the paragraph", why didn't you. I titled my paragraph "Skagzilla the easy way" and the video was titled "Skagzilla the easy way" J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png

I was not making a specific quote, I was simply referring to how you mentioned coming down the ledge. And your paragraph is still confusing. Taking steps back and jumping onto the edge of the area, what the heck does that mean? Fenrakk Sig.png 02:33, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Again you are confused the only time i mention dropping down from anywhere is after you kill skagzilla, i say go to the area/point if you will where you are supposed to drop down NOTE i do not say drop down, then take a few steps backs and grenade jump up, in my video i do not do this why because i have done it so many time that doing a running granade jump is quicker however the fact you did not compare my two materails i guess you cant use that in your argument.. anyway regarding the what the heck does that mean, it means exactly what its supposed to, take a few steps back, you know how to move backwards? then grenade jump to the previously quoted area above were you drop down to fight skagzilla, once up there you move forward towards skagzilla and the edge of of the roofed are you grenade jumped 2, how is that hard to understand and if someone like yourself was having difficulty you could have watched my video, in fact i ensist you watch it again, follow it exactly in the video the only difference from the text and video is the running grenade jump, now lets see if you find it impossible?? J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 02:45, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

P.S the video is also on my user page :)

I am confused because the paragraph is confusing. You could have said to grenade jump onto the roof or something along those lines. You also could have mentioned that the video related to the paragraph; a user should not have to infer such a thing for himself. Fenrakk Sig.png 02:47, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for this late reply but i must have fallen asleep, anyway i suppose i could have put a little more thought into describing how to do my method but i didn't think it needed it as i had no messages regarding it, also regarding your problem yet again "come to the area were you drop down to fight Skagzilla...and grenade jump onto the top of that area" tell me how that can be perceived any other way than to grenade jump on top, regarding the link between video and method the only user that would need to be straight up told " hello video ...method....right next to each other??? hellooo" is you, 1. both materials are titled the same, 2. both materials match up regarding progress through the method and perhaps the most blatant is the fact that they are right next to each other!! J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 14:15, March 14, 2010 (UTC)


You'd have to be retarded not to think they were connected

I don't watch the vids, so I had no idea that the video was related to the paragraph. If you had mentioned in the paragraph that the video was related, we would not be having this discussion. Fenrakk Sig.png 16:10, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

this discussion isnt about relations between the two, you have focused it on that and my answer to that is your the ONLY i repeat ONLY person who would have such a problem noticing the VERY VERY OBVIOUS. In fact this discussion has kind of strayed off to revealing your ...... inability to understand obvious relations between materials. This was originally for an answer to the deletion of my content, note the deletion , after war blades edit the was no paragraph nor link to my video so your wrong again there anyway i overall conclude that 1. you really did not know what you were talking about throughout this discussion and were basically talking a load of ...... just to get the last word in and 2.. oh wait i think i summed everything up in 1 : ) J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png

You misunderstand me. My point is that I hardly ever pay attention to the videos, and thus I had no idea that the video and paragraph were related. Fenrakk Sig.png 18:52, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

I thought i'd underline and bold format the "I" in your comment as i thought it was necessary, im going to admit i tried to find an answer to that comment but i realised that i had already answer it with my previous comment, allow me to quote "you really did not know what you were talking about throughout this discussion and were basically talking a load of ...... just to get the last word in", do yourself a favour and stop commenting because your just wasting your time < being as truthful as i can J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 19:10, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

If I didn't know, then there would without a doubt be users and guests who would not know. Had you simply stated in the paragraph that the video was related, neither would have been removed. Fenrakk Sig.png 19:21, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Oh so now your saying that my content was removed because a visible link/ 50ft sign was not present to point you in the direction of were the related content was(video)wow whats that the 4th??? 5th excuse you've given me hahaha J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 19:27, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

That's not a reason why it was removed, it was a way for you to prevent it from being removed. Fenrakk Sig.png 19:33, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Keep wanting to get the last word in ay fenrakk u naughty boy haha, and quoting yourself "Had you simply stated in the paragraph that the video was related, neither would have been removed." your are indeed using that as a reason and if you cant understand your own comments well you need help haha, and you keep crying about the link, you really are struggling arent you lol because im still baffled that your well ....still.......here ........, ill give you this, you got alot of ...time but few braincells to notice your comments arent doing much for ya.. J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 19:49, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Maliwan Hellfire

The comment you removed was not on the main article for the weapon. It was on the Talk Page for the weapon. The section was the "How can I get a hellfire". You removed it with the comment "no longer needed, otherwise adding that most weaposn can be farmed would be needed on each page'. Readding it unless you feel such a comment doesn't even belong on the Talk Page for the weapon. ParAmSIG.jpg(T/C) 01:28, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reason why i removed it was just, the section was no longer necessary, why?? Because there is no specific area, place or drop were this weapon can be obtained, if there was then that would merit being added to the page however it is a random drop as with 95% of the weapons in borderlands, if there was a guaranteed method of obtaining this weapon then it would be on the page for others looking for it to see, however there wasn't leaving the random drop the only option hence a section stating this obvious information is not needed, this opens the door to having " can be obtained anywhere anytime " for almost all weapons which again......IS NOT NEEDED. Also another reason why it was deleted was because of a wiki notice stating the page was long enough to cause lag for certain users. Now please remove the section before i have to.... J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 01:43, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: I am going to delete the section now, if you continue to disagree with the decision then try and get a hold of one of the current sysops/admins and if they agree with you then ill leave it alone however if they do not please stop re-adding the section as i believe a wiki notice and common knowledge favour the deletion

I will also read through the page and see if it can be shortened further..J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 02:23, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not going to readd the section, but did you even read that it was on the Talk page for the weapon and not the actual article where such a question can be asked? ParAmSIG.jpg(T/C) 02:39, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

It's wikia policy to help anyone who needs help, even if they TL;DR'ed the article. You can put pointles questions into some form of FAQ on the talk page, but you may not remove them. <EDIT> I'm not going to readd the section, but keep this tidbit in mind from now on.Fenrakk Sig.png 02:40, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

@ fenrakk i followed wikia's policy and helped the person with his question, i then continued to explain why such a section having been answered should be deleted or considered to be deleted, and regarding the removing, i frequently come across wiki notices at the top of pages asking members to improve pages and in the case of the Maliwan Talk page the notice stated that other users may have scrolling problems because the page was larger than ??? KB, How to solve this??? by deleting and shortening the page and i started with the question i had just answered as the person who asked the question was satisfied with my answer J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 02:48, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Generally you would archive a page if it gets like that rather than delete sections. ParAmSIG.jpg(T/C) 07:00, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
It's a talk page, so there really is no limit. You cannot edit and shorten a talk page like an article. And did the user reply, proving that he had seen the answer and the issue resolved? Fenrakk Sig.png 16:16, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

He did not reply however at the bottom of my answer i said to delete the section if he/she was satisfied, shortly after the section was deleted byt that same person J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 18:50, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

So what the heck is the argument about? The creator of the section chose to delete it him/herself. Fenrakk Sig.png 19:40, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

heres the basics, guys asks how to get hellfire, i answer and ask him to delete if he was satisfied with answer.. guys deletes shortly later however and user decides to re-add it, i wondering why delete it again saying its not need.. been answered... etc then i got the comment above and thats were it carried on.. J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 20:02, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

I'll look into it. I'll also talk with the other mods. This is an issue we must look into. (Not this specifically, but the "deleting answered questions" thing) Fenrakk Sig.png 20:12, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

go for it, hopefully it will prevent my talk page from being filled with such discussions/arguments lol J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 21:12, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

The new goal is to add an "Acquiring (whatever weapon it is)" section to every page. Now, if anyone asks how to get a weapon on an article with that section, delete the question immediately. Fenrakk Sig.png 21:55, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

So a new section on "How to obtain" or whatever will be added to talk pages for each weapon, anyone posting a new section on that same talk page regarding the same thing will be deleted? Also are the sysops just doing this or would you guys like a hand, if you do is there a pre-prepared paragraph your using.. J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 22:16, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

No, in the main article. Look at Maliwan Hellfire, that is the first page we have done it for. And of course we could use a hand, all projects on the wiki are a group effort and members are free to contribute and help if they wish. Fenrakk Sig.png 22:19, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well ill get right on it, ill just scan through the categories of weapons doing each one but if im not sure about a weapon ill just leave it.. J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 22:50, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

If you're not sure, just add the section and another user will add to it. Fenrakk Sig.png 22:51, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

I appologize. I did not fully read through your entire talk section before re-revising the Hyperion Bitch page. I did not know this discussion was buried half-way down under an unrelated heading. I still stand by my previous statement, however. The infrormation is unneeded and only serves to clutter the weapons page unnecessarily. There are very few garunteed drops in borderlands, this kind of makes the section redundant. [[Special:Contributions/|Iran4edmund 21:32, March 17, 2010 (UTC)]]

No worries but i actually agree with you, i thought having it on the main page "shotgun,sniper rifle" etc would have been enough however The Flying fenrakk (sysop) requested otherwise so i went ahead with it. J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 21:34, March 17, 2010 (UTC)


Yes, all of them. Also, the sections are written as "Acquiring {PAGENAME}", but with double brackets. Fenrakk Sig.png 00:47, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ok and regarding weapons such as combat rifles i believe it would be best to at the acquire section just on the main page of the weapon rather that on each individual types page as they all excluding quest only can be obtained the same way J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 00:53, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, only on Legendary weapons. And I don't think the main articles require them , like Shotguns and Combat Rifles; JUST Legendary weapons. Fenrakk Sig.png 00:54, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ok but aren't Legendary weapons similar to none legendary what would be put for legendary other than obtained through chests and high level enemy drops? J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 00:57, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

A lot of Legendary weapons are guaranteed to drop in some certain location. That's why people tend to ask how to get them. Fenrakk Sig.png 00:59, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm well im not sure which legendary weapons are guaranteed drops , if you know any let me know so I can get started on them as well as adding a basic 'Acquire section for each main weapon page' J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 01:02, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Just add the section to all Legendaries. Fenrakk Sig.png 01:04, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ok done a good few so far will carry on for abit.. also dont suppose you know how to create a subpage?? like the ones used for signatures, do i just go to my userpage, make a link to a page, click it and create it?? or is it the Create article link to the left of the screen?? J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 01:51, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Either or. Fenrakk Sig.png 19:34, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

lol already done it anyways do you think you could hep me in the "wiki problems" section?? J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 19:37, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Whut? Fenrakk Sig.png 19:38, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Check my Wiki problems section at the bottom of the page, for some reason just this morning i was having problems with wiki skins, template, my sig had reverted back to adding images to each post in RCF despite no changes being made, btw i use chrome J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 19:41, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Cleaning up

Well apparently i've got people cleaning up my edits ( capital D turned to little d ), as much as i hate seeing edits that consist of altering 1 word or even worse 1 letter I feel i should be the one to do such a **** task if need be? Ill go over all my edits and alter 1 letter, how fun :) J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 03:36, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: for those that do like to stalk my recent edits if you see a problem and god help you if its about 1 letter again, let me know so i can deal with it by editing it myself if i get really annoyed..... and also stopping me from doing it on other pages if im making quick edits J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 04:28, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Acquiring PAGENAME

Is it really necessary? It's the same paragraph

"This weapon can be obtained through many ways including - Looting chests and weapon crates throughout [[Pandora]], dropped by higher level enemies and can be on sale at [[Weapon Vendor|weapon vendors]] infrequently."

over and over again. Anything that is indeed different would already be stated in weapon properties or trivia. --Nagamarky 03:58, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Nagamarky, i agree with you to some extent, it is the same stuff over and over but having it there on weapon pages helps to prevent the talk page from being cluttered with location and "how do i get 1" requests, also i limited it to legendaries and main weapon pages rather than every single weapon type cutting the numbers of times this section is placed by over 50% J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 04:02, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Wiki Problems

Is it just me or is borderlands abit screwed up?? my skin keeps changing im on white now and also earlier template was messed up and my signature has gone back to adding images despite me not changing anything?? J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 17:31, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Edit, seemed to be linked to google chrome, switched to firefox and skin is normal.. , any ideas? J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 19:26, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

No, not really. Go to Tool > Options and see if anything can be fixed there. Fenrakk Sig.png 19:51, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
I was getting similar problems earlier too. It went back to normal after clearing my browsers cache though. ParAmSIG.jpg(T/C) 06:36, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Signature help

I'm not sure why yours is adding images. Mine did as well, and then it suddenly stopped. Same with Fen's. I'll check with him when he comes online later. -- ClaptrapTorgueSig.png Claptrap icon.jpg Jakobscoveclaptrapz.jpg 19:34, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Fen postulates that our images don't show up because we've signed so many times. After a certain point, Wikia assumes it could be a picture that goes on every page, so it stops showing it in Special:MyHome and such. You haven't signed enough, but when you have, it'll stop adding the images. This seems to be the most likely reason. -- ClaptrapTorgueSig.png Claptrap icon.jpg Jakobscoveclaptrapz.jpg 19:43, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

atleast 2/3's of my edit count or signed posts, also it seemed to happen when i had trouble with wiki, after checking rcf i noticed some guy called 31st century something... i think had posts regarding the template/skin ( must have been playing around with it ?? ) anyways thats when it started if that helps? If not i guess ill keep signing as usual and hope it goes away, annoying seeing 3 image boxes in for every signed post because of me lol J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 19:48, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

modded guns

What is a modded gun? Please reply back

Hello ruler of skags, don't forget to sign your posts with 4 tildes (~), a modded gun is a gun that you cannot come by normally in the game, a gun that in most cases has been changed to be better, more powerful, more accurate etc, any way to better its stats and better the guns overall effectiveness at... killing, Before the most recent patch guns were ridiculously powerful, being able to 1 shot kill anything but after the patch this has been reduced preventing uber guns from being loaded into the game with the player. Regarding how to make modded guns you need a knowledge of willow tree, know the different parts of guns (combinations) and then the experimenting begins. Hope this answered your question J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 11:19, March 23, 2010 (UTC)


playing on xbox360 splitscreen, unfortunately its not a glitch I've always just had the two weapons available.

did you not complete playthrough 1 and receive the 2 weapon sdu's?? well if not then you can go through playthrough 1 and get them or mod your save so u have all 4 J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png 19:04, March 27, 2010 (UTC)


Hello, this is J-NoX speaking, for the past weeks i have been unable to edit any page on wiki, at 1st i thought mayb it was a problem with the wiki, a few days later i thought maybe its my browser or maybe my laptop so i tried on another computer and still banned, I left it for several days but still couldnt not edit, i decided to sign out and bam here i am explaining the situation on on a temp account, i read a little on whats banning is ' ban ip's or usernames(likely me) from editting. So i'm banned???? WHY and why wasnt i warned or notified?? J-NoX

I can tell you right now, you aren't banned. It's some other problem entirely. -- ClaptrapTorgueSig.png Claptrap icon.jpg Jakobscoveclaptrapz.jpg 00:35, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

well i no its user related, because its not my browser, my laptop, the only time ive been able to edit is with another user/ this temp one, im stumped?? J-NoX

when i block someone for something _i_ find disturbing or particularly irritating i will block non-anonymous users as well. check the block list and see if your address is blocked and who blocked it and why. find out if anyone in your household/place of work is vandalizing the wiki and make your case here or on my talk page. is 65.91 your regular ip or diff? IF this is not at all the case let us know so we can fix this quickly as i have not experienced this before. or email me from one of my pages with your ip and i will track it down.   Dr. F    Chemicalweapon.png   Wordpress shovel.png   Boston globe bullhorn.png  01:58, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, I could have sworn that someone brought a very similar issue to LobStoR, though I can't locate it in Lob's talk or the archive of the talk page. As I recall, clearing the browser's "cookies" was what fixed the problem. Try that. -- ClaptrapTorgueSig.png Claptrap icon.jpg Jakobscoveclaptrapz.jpg 02:08, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

@ clayton - yep thats my usual ip, im sure you can find that this anonymous and my j-nox match im sure

@ claptrap - i did a ctrl F5 on google chrome and nothing, also i tried mozilla firefox and Internet Explorer still nothing, i bet if i logged out in each of those browsers i would be able to edit, i would post a picture if u like showing my problem although its basically a grey area like an empty page, nothing loads (white edit area, buttons along top for adding pics and links) and the save page and show preview button dont work either, this sucks because if it was just a temporary problem i doubt it would have lasted this long, since the 20th march im sure... J-NoX

? check with virgin re:throughput. maybe your problem is closer to home. drat and double drat! i thought for sure i had blocked you. and i was all ready with an "Aha! Your nicked!" but no. curses, foiled again.   Dr. F    Chemicalweapon.png   Wordpress shovel.png   Boston globe bullhorn.png  14:10, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

would my throughput really have an affect on a single username for a single site???, it doesnt seem likely...or am i not the only one stumped lol J-NoX

you said single site so i would like you to try this: sign into the vault or bioshock on wikia and edit your user page there if you can(you have one waiting even if youve never been there). block/ban doesnt (shouldnt) cross that line. this is intriguing at least though id imagine less than entertaining for you.   Dr. F    Chemicalweapon.png   Wordpress shovel.png   Boston globe bullhorn.png  18:52, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

When i meant single site i did not know my usernames stretched over the other wiki's but............ no surprise, when signed in as J-NoX on both Bioshock and Vault wiki i cannot edit just as i cant on borderlands wiki : ( Just to go over it:-

- I tried different browsers ( firefox and internet explorer, default chrome) no success

- Tried a different computer signed in as J-NoX no success

- Refreshed my browser and cleared cookies no success

- Tried other wiki's signed in as J-NoX no success

- Neither my username or ip have been banned to prevent editing ??

- I can however edit on all wiki's on both my main and other computers when signed out of J-NoX

Hmmmmmm this is quite the predicament and yes its not too entertaining.... J-NoX

Try making a new account and trying to edit. Also, can you edit your talk page on the JNox account? Fenrakk Sig.png 22:10, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

No, i said before i cant edit any page... including my own, also regarding the new user, i believe it would work as i am already able to edit with this anonymous user. J-NoX

Banned users can usually edit their own talk page. Just need a confirm on whether or not you can edit your talk. Also need a confirm on using a different account. Fenrakk Sig.png 22:28, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

i can edit with another account as i said so u can confirm that........ J-NoX

User:J-NoX Problem

i will assume this is an acceptable solution?   Dr. F    Chemicalweapon.png   Wordpress shovel.png   Boston globe bullhorn.png  02:42, April 5, 2010 (UTC) someone maybe didnt care for the syntax? are we still trying to resolve the other account or are we holding it in reserve?

well i would prefer my other account back but apparently its a problem that cannot be solved?? I guess ill have to make do with this, maybe use this account to relay msg's and still use my other acc's sig etc but would have still liked to stick with my original J-Nox 16:19, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

have you tried the old account of late? just curious as we never got to the bottom of that one.   Dr. F    Chemicalweapon.png   Wordpress shovel.png   Boston globe bullhorn.png  21:06, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Talk page

Your talk page is massive. Considered making an archive?

how do i go about that, sorry im not that into forums stuff etc..


Alright thnx man but can you be on at around 3-6 pm tomorrow EST. Thnx; gots teh school UnstoppableThao

sure ill just have to get my xbox working again lol J-nox green.pngTalkpage green green.pngContributions green.png

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