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Please leave a message on my talk page if you need help with anything! I'll be happy to help. WarBlade (talk) 04:42, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

Re:garding the Fatale

See what I did there? I thought it was funny. Anyway:

Use case in a weapon is completely subjective. You can use an SMG in pretty much any situation that isn't point blank melee combat; as is for all high fire rate SMGs, so comparing it specifically to the Bitch would not entirely apply. A similar example to this situation came up a few weeks ago regarding the Hammer Buster II. After an hour or so of talking in the chat, User:Dr. Clayton Forrestor and I decided that, since most of the game is really in gun names (Prefixes affecting effects, names marking individuality, especially so in the ongoing case of whether there are "two Hyperions" in The Pre-Sequel or not), that if two guns have a different name, they're ruled to be different guns. They may be in reference to each other (As can be noted on the Hammer Buster II page, with the name alone being a reference to the Hammer Buster), but it is, altogether, a different gun. As should be categorized with most guns on the wiki, if it has a different name, it is a different gun. Similar effect withstanding.

Furthermore, please refrain from calling other users "a lowlife scummy prick". That can be considered rude. If there's anything you'd like to add, please expand upon it on my talk page. InfinitysCross (talk) 22:24, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

I wouldn't go as far to say "Unlike any other weapon, since there are some lasers that definitely fit in that description. In any case, you're correct towards Sledge's Shotty; it will be changed as such ASAP. Nonetheless, different weapons.

And for the latter note, which isn't entirely unrelated, it's possible to point out immaturity without insulting a user. If I'm remembering correctly, it is a bannable offense (Cannot say for sure, honestly, as if I'm remembering correctly I've seen bans for that reason before). InfinitysCross (talk) 22:48, November 10, 2014 (UTC)


Your editing privilege has been revoked for a period of one week. When you return, if you still want to persist with the Fatale issue you must do so entirely on the Talk page. If you're outvoted, you will have to accept the majority decision. -- WarBlade (talk) 23:13, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

I don't know if you will see this, but I certainly hope that you do, because I was in the middle of a conversation with InfinitysCross, which to my knowledge is a form of communication, and it was my intent to be constructive. If you feel that you must intervene and "tie my hands," or whatever, I would still appreciate you not getting in the way of me having a discussion with another user. For whatever reason, you seem to have felt the need to prevent me from posting on user talk pages, but how else is it physically possible to have a discussion when no one has alternate means of contact listed. I did look, so I could ask you personally to not disrupt our conversation, but alas, I couldn't find your facebook or Steam or Twitter. If all else fails, I suppose I can just post my reply to IC here, but that seems a bit silly to me. Benzillah (talk) 00:09, November 11, 2014 (UTC) keep forgetting to sign, sad day :(

I don't mind. That said, War has a point; from the beginning we should've taken this to the Fatale's talk page, not each others. InfinitysCross (talk) 23:56, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

I really question your motivation, WarBlade. If your intent was to ensure constructive communication, then why am I banned? After all, I was the only one who communicated anything at all to begin with. I responded to InfinitysCross and Lavisdragoon, and all I was met with was hostility and obstinance. Only later (pretty much just now) was I actually able to have a discussion with either of the two, and that's when the great WarBlade struck and interrupted an actual dialogue. I am interested in improving the wiki, I think it is a reasonable goal, but all I found was intolerence at having a different opinion. No explanation of why one way is better, just "tl;dr." Benzillah (talk) 00:09, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

Oh dear. Well, I suppose in the interest of being candid, I should post the above anyway. I don't really see why it matters whether it is discussed on the item's page or yours, I just assumed you would be more likely to notice my replys if they were directly to you. And I suppose I am just still unfamiliar with this wiki's policy, I thought that outlining the differences that I wanted to note in the page itself would be easier to see. I did use comments, after all, and it shouldn't have disrupted the page flow. Also, the updates I posted were iterative, as I was trying to get a feel for what you wanted to see. He rather conspicuously reverted my most recent change wholesale, though it had actual elements that were outside the issue, such as my note on using the Fatale specificially for crits. You should still be able to see it if you look at the page history. Benzillah (talk) 00:09, November 11, 2014 (UTC)
Enough of this holier-than-thou attitude. You outright told Crack he was full of "bs", then responded to my revert by asking "who the **** I think I am", and essentially stating that neither of our opinions matter in the least, and frankly I didn't feel like keeping a conversation open with someone so self-important.
The wiki is not a place for you to state your opinions, and it's not a guide. It's a place to catalog information. Your opinion doesn't matter on such articles; nobody's opinion does. New editors are always welcome, but if your edits are rejected by multiple people who have been on this wiki infinitely longer than you, you need to figure out what you did wrong, not tell everyone else that THEY'RE wrong. - Lavisdragoon (talk) 00:32, November 11, 2014 (UTC)
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