Talk:The Dove

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hornet

could anybody please c/d if the hornet is actually a reward from the quest, with a screenshot or something please?68.63.31.1

Watch the picture at the bottom of The Dove article; it's an animated GIF and the final frame is the Dove Hornet. I can exhaustively confirm its existance by the way; farmed the mission for somethnig like 6 hours. -- Eno Khaon 03:54, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

thanks for the quick reply, it must just be really difficult to get, i've been trying for the past hour to get it.68.63.31.1

In those 6 hours I got 2, so it's not exactly common. Taking a stab in the dark, I wouldn't be surprised if it's between a 1 in 50 and 1 in 100 chance. Now I'm trying to figure out if Slither can drop a level 48 version, and let me tell you, pain in the freaking butt to even get a basic Dove from him, let alone one with an accessory. -- Eno Khaon 06:41, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Could swear I got one that used ammo.

I got The Dove and assumed the flavor text meant it got unlimited ammo (or at least occasionally didn't consume a bullet). But it didn't! In fact it didn't seem particularly special at all (yes, it required reloads too). It was underpowered compared to my Equalizer, so I sold it. Sorry I can't reproduce this. I'll post if that happens again on another playthrough. // Brock

I got a BLR Bad Hornet from somewhere that did not have infinite ammo. I had noted it on the page, but it was removed and nothing left of what I put. Guess that's what I get for trying to help.

^Only Hornets obtained from the quest reward will have infinite ammo.

A Dove with the double accessory will fire 2 bullets per pull of the trigger, but only consumes 1 ammo. This changes it from a weapon with infinite clip to a 12 clip gun that does pretty lousy damage. (Note the double accessory will not affect the item name as usual, it will still be The Dove)

The dove cancels one bullet used by the gun for each shot, so if it shoots 2 bullets, it uses one, if it shoots one at a time, it will shoot zero. And use your sig next time. --Saphireking65 03:42, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

I don't believe this is accurate. It sounds like a version that has no ammo use modification. A weapon equipped with the dove barrel will not consume ammo, regardless of the number of projectiles fired at once; weapons that fire multiple projectiles at once frequently use only one ammo per volley.

Dear Mr. or Mrs. Unsigned Post Above Mine: The Dove barrel reduces ammo usage per shot by 1, giving the illusion of infinite ammo. When coupled with the Double accessory, this illusion falls apart. Thanks, Spaphrenchie 03:05, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Depends on the method, it seems. As I have two SMGs, both have the "double" prefix/accessory, and consume at least 2 ammo per trigger pull, but one has the anarchy title (raising shots fired to 4), and still only 2 rounds are consumed per trigger pull. In the case of the ammo consuming Dove, it would appear to be a programming quirk along the lines of [PullTrigger -> DoveConsumesNoAmmo -> Acessory=Double (FireAnothershot -> Ammo--)]...

Trivia

Isn't this gun a nod to how in old movies, like John Woo stuff, the characters would never reload and would seem to have infinite ammo. The joke being in John Woo movies, Doves would fly out during action scenes

I've heard this is a reference to "The Crow" in that the only time a gun was reloaded, it accidentally killed the actor. --Skullkid2424

Only after Playthrough 2?

He dropped this for me in Playthrough 1. I was level 30 as Roland. The Flying Fenrakk 01:45, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, he's supposed to. Beetle179 02:05, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Tweet

I obtained the lacerator version, and it seems to "tweet" every 6 or so bullets, just interesting.

Mine seems to aswell. All three versions I have got seemed to tweet every once in a while. I'm not sure if this is a pistol thing or not lol GnarlyToaster 18:58, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Ammo usage, post Knoxx?

Ok, so 99.12.164.250 tacked on part of the description for the flavour text "No longer has unlimited ammo.", now can anyone really confirm this, or was this just some user who got one the Doves that weren't exactly infinite ammo?Raven6666 02:25, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing that out. The Dove still doesn't use ammo unless you have the Double version. -- 02:27, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

I have the double version but it still doesn't use ammo. I'm playing the PC version and wonder if the console versions have that issue with using ammo? Otherwise I plan on reverting the statement on the page. -Striator 02:35, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

Quick question.

I am attempting to recreate this gun using modding, but I cant figure out where to put the "unique_parts" on the parts list so if anyone could help me that would be great also the unique part is a barrel so i figured it would go there but i cant seem to get it to work every time i load my save i just lose whatever gun i modded.