"You should train"

When Firehawk gave me the mission, she mentioned that it was full of badasses and I should train some more. Is that a generic message, or a hint that I'm a little squishy? --Azaram (talk) 07:25, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

It's irony. She intended to port you straight in, but instead you get directed to The Dust where Ellie has just crushed the technical you were supposed to acquire, then get to meet Loggins who offers supplementary mission targets, and by the time you finally get back on course for rescuing Roland you'll have acquired a few levels, ie. trained. -- WarBlade (talk) 11:59, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Roland and Bloodshot Ramparts

Can someone please research whether or not it's actually possible to save Roland at Bloodshot Ramparts? Because I have some seriously overpowered kit for the fight, and am even a little bit overleveled, but still cannot even bring its shields below 50%. I'm beginning to suspect the fight at the ramparts is scripted to fail. lavacano201014 (yell at me here) 00:20, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Yes. It might be a little tricky on the first time through - I had trouble on the first character I went through with - but it's actually pretty straight forward once you get the hang of how the battle plays out. I've only been forced to the Friendship Gulag once. So by "seriously overpowered gear" what are you referring to specifically? And what are you shooting at? -- WarBlade (talk) 00:48, October 12, 2014 (UTC)
I can confirm this; my experience was pretty much the same as WarBlade's. You MUST have a good shock weapon to take down the shield, and a decent acid or a very good explosive for the armor. First time through on Zer0 I didn't have a shock weapon at all. On the three characters I've played through there since then, I made sure I did, and freed him there. --Azaram (talk) 13:46, October 12, 2014 (UTC)
A little late to the conversation, but quite a bit of the fight is scripted. In the transition from the first to second area, at L43 there is one loader that has taken ~2 million in damage from a corrorsive Vengeful Infinity across the "bridge," and it's sitting there asking for a medic. My first time through at L15, I couldn't find a corrorsive anywhere and only had a weak shock weapon. Roland went to Friendship and I got my first corrorsive after hitting L16, before getting him out. GRPeng (talk) 04:20, July 31, 2015 (UTC)
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