Forums: Index > Watercooler > Dtoid trashes DLC4, giving it a 3/10... thoughts?

Now I know most of us haven't played the DLC yet, but I certainly wasn't expecting a review like this. Given that most of us are ardent fans of the game I doubt it will carry much water here, but thoughts?? SQLc 19:07, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

That remark about how the fight against the INAC(and MINAC I assume) pales in comparison to the Craw fights is kind of, well, derp.

Craw is supposed to be tough, that's why it's an optional mission instead of a boss fight. If Craw were a requirement to finish the game people would have ragequit long ago.

I haven't been on a Craw run yet, but from what I've gleaned from here and the GB forums, soloing Craw is quite a challenge unless you glitch a bit KillienKillienTalk 19:12, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, that was a rough review. Since I haven't played DLC 4 yet I don't know how much I agree. But if after we all play it we agree that it was a lame attempt at making money, maybe it will be time to make BL2. For those who have played it, how much do you all agree? Insomniac9783 19:17, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe its possible that the Gearbox team was diverting their resources to Duke Nuken instead? - Zeph, 03:19, Sept 29, 2010 (GMT+8)

  • It's interesting that the review mentions that Gearbox outsourced the development of this DLC to some other company. That's the first I'd heard of that. If true then that might explain some of what the author was trying to say with respect to the characters acting somewhat unlike themselves. At the end of the day though, Gearbox has to put their stamp of approval on it before it's released. SQLc 19:23, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'll wait for the REAL review over at IGN. Also, comparing anything to crawmerax is a moot point. Less than 1% of BLers have actually beaten crawmerax according to RP himself, so why would they make him a MANDATORY boss? Also, it's 10 bucks. 10 bucks to me is well worth a good boss fight and some good orange gear. NOhara24

Although the review seemed to be 'rant-ish', He still provided some solid reasons for the score. I hate collection quests tho...puts a bullet right through your games potential to be fun. Eulogenic 19:49, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, it's not worth it :(

Envy 360 19:50, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Also, after doing some digging, all that guy ever writes about is how much he hates something. Gameinformer came out with another review, they gave it an 8.

Just like anything else, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Truthfully I didn't even mind the Braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaains mission, and it sounds like the dtoid reviewer thought it was worse than the plague. The GI review comes across as more down to earth and less emotional. SQLc 20:23, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. This is alarming. The negative review was, indeed, brutally honest, and really nailed where DLC1 went wrong. I notice he doesn't even mention the execrable DLC2 - now THAT was a lazy cash grab - and I worry greatly he's correct on DLC4. To buy or not buy... I guess I've some time before the PS3 version comes out to decide! Dotonehundred 22:44, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Look at the Gameinformer review I posted. It's nice to hear both sides of the story. People on the forums really like it, the guy who wrote it was just trashing the game for being what it is. (Which...if you don't write the game, why do the review?) NOhara24 22:51, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Well i got the DLC today and read the review after i completed the main story quests. The review does have some solid points such as the collect missions but id rate it at a 6/7 for the fact it was fun to play. Dont base your judgement on getting the DLC over that review it is worth getting if you enjoyed the other DLCs

See, this is a perfect example of the phenomenon known as "love it or hate it". Some people don't like collection quests. Some people do. Some people don't care if new monsters are simply old monsters with new skins, sounds, and moves. Some people do. Some people get paid to write about games whether or not they like them. Some people don't. Myself, I think he has some valid points, but only like-minded people will appreciate them. For those of us who don't really mind collection quests and old dogs with new tricks, the article may as well not even exist. Laserrobotics (talk) 23:18, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

from the interviews randal has made i never got the impression that dlc4/CNRR was outsourced. too bad but it explains the delay.   Dr. F    Chemicalweapon   Wordpress shovel   Boston globe bullhorn  00:28, September 29, 2010 (UTC) d/l now PC

I personally was a bit disappointed with the DLC. Took about half an hour to download and another half hour to beat. I was expecting more from it, but a Hellfire and a stinger with my siren can apparently kill almost every non boss enemy on two seconds... It'll be interesting to see if the level cap patch will make it more of a challenge.   Uberorb Bio melt  

Hey guys. Appreciate the comments regarding the review. I'll offer a few clarifications, if you don't mind. I LOVE Borderlands, which is part of the reason why DLC4 was so painful for me to play and to write about (but I do write about how much I love things quite often; dig deeper?). The Braaaaaaaaaains quest didn't bother me in Dr. Ned but it really didn't need to be repeated. Funny once, annoying twice. The comment about MINAC "paling in comparison" to Crawmerax is out of context. I was merely pointing out that while MINAC can be a challenging fight, players should not expect the need for some sort of grand strategy. The biggest disappointment of the whole affair is the utter waste of the potential the scenario held. D-Fault could have been made so much more than just "here's this guy, go kill him." The micro-story between the spa and the hotel could have been pushed further than two short, lame missions. Why wasn't there a single multi-part quest (wherein you reach your goal, but the goal has shifted in some way)? Instead, I'm supplying Marcus with supplies for fried chicken and cologne. That makes no sense to me whatsoever when there was so much that could have been worked with just within the concept of a Claptrap revolution. Anyway, sorry for the length of the comment. Thanks for reading the review and, frankly, for being so reasonable about it. Conrad.zimmerman 20:06, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

It's funny, because on the GBX forums, even though many shared your point of view, they wrote the review off as unreliable due to the language, which is ridiculous. I would give it a 6/10, but I can see someone giving it a 3 after all the hype (by players and GBX themselves).GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 20:25, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, I can't blame them for that. It certainly was unconventional by review standards, as it literally was an e-mail exchange between myself and another editor on staff. Sometimes those conversations get a little salty with the language and, while I could have toned it down, I wanted to use the more casual nature afforded that framework to demonstrate how I really felt. But it's certainly not what I would consider "highly professional" work on my part, and it's certainly not the review that I would put in a portfolio. Then again, I would make the same suggestion to anyone at Gearbox or DarkSide in regards to the DLC itself. Conrad.zimmerman 20:35, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Gearbox is selling themselves up a creek. Reach just released. I'm not even going to bother with DLC4 for BL. Maybe I'll wait until the goty bundled with all the dlc is on sale for $15. Probably not though. They could have done something amazing here. It's a shame they passed up the opportunity. Even just throwing in a few new guns probably would have given it something. Ah well. BL2 might pan out. You never know. WhackyGordon 21:07, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

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