Forum:Anti mod clan

Well guys i've been a hardcore anti modder for a while now and have lately been striking back against the mod community and would be interested in anyone to aid in my hobby/clan.

You might be wondering "how do you strike back" well for some time now like a species of animal modded guns have been reproducing and increasing in numbers without an enemy. Well we will be that enemy. So far by using tactics of convincing them to drap dupe sell or lend their guns to me i then hit a save point and trow them of a cliff in their game or in your own match. Deleting it permanetly in an entertaining fassion.

My beliefs

- Duping is ok but frowned upon to anyone other that a close friend

- Custom built logical guns are ok for replacements for corrupted replacment guns or examples of how the game works of the wiki.

- Modded guns or realy bad exploiting the game to get advantages instead of finding lejits that are nearly as good.

So far i've destroyed 73 ish guns and am getting tired of it ( I think i've grown a conciounce and can no longer steal them but i will enlist people and probably retire at 100 guns)

- Rules to join

Have to go on a succesful hunt with a high ranking member If anyone sees this topic what section of the forums this is in i am a noob poster and can not find this in the water cooler section i left it in

- Can not have modded guns for any purpose other than to use as a tactic to get more ( i will teach you how).

Can keep an accurate estimate of how many guns removes in bio

Rules of opperating

ONLY TAKE WHAT YOU KNOW FOR SURE IS MODDED IF YOU DONT KNOW DONT TAKE NOT FOLLOWING THIS RULE WILL HAVE YOU REMOVED FROM CLAN

Make sure that the estimate you provide is not exagerated

Do not break coc in your exploits

Please leave questions comments concerns or give you oppinion of how bat shit crazy i am.

Also if you interested in joining leave you xbox live gtag here Tbone0923 04:16, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

- clever and commendable however comma willotree save editor has a locker. still sounds like fun. 10:45, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

I'm actually really up for this, i dont want to give my ps3 ID because i want to stay incognito, give me a way to get hold of you, lets hunt down these modderfuckers! (sorry for the cheap mod pun)

@Dr. F, we cant stop modders, but we can reduce the population of people so blatantly dropping guns. Kick the hackers, take their names, lets get a list oof them up on the wiki to name and shame.I've wanted to do this for a while but i thougth i was the only one.Danzig1138 11:19, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

This whole charade is really...quite sad, and this is coming from someone who only ever mods to goof around offline, which I do seldomly...if it's me alone sure I'll be silly, but if others are involved I play seriously. :\ SpootKnight 11:41, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Edit: Plus being against modding yet still allowing the alterations of weapon codes? Even if they're within the standard rules of weapon generation it's still modding...it's hypocracy.

What SpootKnight said. "to name and shame"...really?? This sounds more like a witch hunt than trying to eliminate mods. Pimps&#39;N&#39;Giggles 11:44, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Burn the Witch!

Edit: Plus any who actually does mod ALWAYS has a backup save file. So really your "73ish" guns that you've destroyed is only about 23ish. Seems like a waste of time.

Well... your intentions are good, ill give you that. ~ One random guy 13:10, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

as i said in another post when ever someone gives me modded guns i just toss them off a cliff or sell them then report the xbox user Heyoooo! 13:18, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

What’s 'really...Quite sad' Spoof, is your inability to realise there's a serious problem. Modding guns for personal amusement (as you stated) is fine with me but when people knowingly go online with their modded guns and call them 'legit' saying they just dropped off Craw - trading them or duping them making others think they're legit, That's just dumb.

@Pimps, Yes really, I don't want to play with retarded players that will get my saves corrupt all of the time! Frankly, I don’t see why a player rating system wasn’t set up to begin with. A witch hunt (edit - burn!) would imply us randomly accusing people of Modding with no proof.. Ima stick to my guns here, Gearbox are doing very little in the way of stopping this issue. What would you have us do? Just bend over and take the twisted hellfire’s like a bitch?

I’m not going to mindlessly follow the OP but I think he’s got a point, if everyone does their part then we can sort this problem out. Kick modders, sell their guns, and yes ‘Name and Shame’. Peace Danzig1138 13:24, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Actually I am aware that modding online is a serious issue, and here's the thing, not I, or any of you on this site (Unless you actually are one of the game devs) have the power to do a single thing about it, so what's the point of taking weapons and tossing them off cliffs? They'll just crack open Willowtree, hit Import from Clipboard, and voila, they have the weapon back.

And I'll say this again, an anti-modding community that supports weapon constructs, it's still modding, so you're not helping the community in any way.

"Oh nice weapon, where'd you find it?"

"Oh I didn't find it, I 'constructed' it on Willowtree."

"..."

See where I'm getting at? If you're going to be "hardcore" anti-modding, don't use anything that was altered, period. SpootKnight 14:03, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds interesting, I'm interested in joining, btw, I used to be okay modding, but now that I've found legit copies of my modded weapons, I don't need the guns anymore, in fact I'll ditch my modded guns next time I'm on. My PSN is Extertionist if my application is acceptable.  Extertionist  

I think SpootKnight has a good point, because although it is easy enough to rain down the fury of our pure gaming bravado on guns with names like shredder shredder, bitch bitch or twisted anything other than a SMG, constructing guns has the same effect of cheapening the experience of borderlands by giving you any gun you want "within the confines of the gun's natural statistics." Don't you see that once you can attain any gun you want at any time with the right tools instead of spending the time to search for it, you are in fact breaking the game just like any modder and their twisted serpens. AZS Boggs 14:29, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed with SpootKnight and AZS Boggs here, there isn't a whole lot you can do here. They aren't actively monitoring the online play, they're only releasing patches to combat the problem (which will only grow once more DLC becomes available, not mention it's hampering their abilities to release new content :| Look at Loyalty mods! :D :| ). Let's be honest here, they won't be monitoring it anytime soon either. The simplist thing is to just avoid the players. Again, I'll reference Diablo 2 in this case. What did they do to modders in Diablo 2? They gave them their own sandbox to play in, Open Battle.net. The only difference between Borderlands and Diablo 2 is the fact there's no true distinction between Open and regular. Trust yourself, trust your closest friends, and unfortunately, don't trade. It's the only way to truly keep the modding down to a minimum.

Having experimented with mods on Diablo 2, I can see the short-lived jollies of modding. It's also neat to see what items were left as scrap in the game, such as grenade launchers, being used by some of the friends on Borderlands that mod. I personally won't mod, and I can have fun without altering weapons. I feel it was left this open for one of two reasons though: either they knew this was going to happen or they simply don't care, with beliefs on the later of the two. Let's be honest here: having an anti-mod clan isn't going to do anything but make the people in it look like zealots. Pro-modders actively going against it will look just as bad. So instead of holding an all out war, why don't we just make a thread, easily accessible to everyone, that posts whether they use mods, constructs, or are legit? It'll help sort through the muck of running into the modders when non-modders don't want them there. The obvious problem in this is, of course, honesty. Finding that online is as likely as Skaggs inviting us to a tea party. Regardless, I will start a thread for such to see just how good it is. Ryo Kasami 14:40, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

You should add a link to nagamarky's page as well, there's a nice description there of how to tell if a gun is modded or not! Informing people as well as creating a place to trade legitimate stuff seems like a great idea to me :) AZS Boggs 14:46, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

See! There is stuff we can do, I don't understand why everyone is saying they agree with Spoot in the sense there is nothing we can do but then give perfectly valid ways of stunting the problem. Ryo, I gave the idea of naming modders but apparently that would be like a witch hunt...
 * (burn)

Let’s take the OP with a pinch of salt but remember that we can actively do something to stop this from getting out of hand. Danzig1138 14:52, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

WOW this is sad, New DLC needs to come out soon because we are all bored.

Also, if you dont like modded guns dont use them, simple. Stop trying to piss other people off by throwing their stuff away. FunKy16 15:18, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

こんにちは私の名前はアマヤヒカルは、私はあなたを助けるために幸せになる. 私はあなたがこのことを理解することができます願っています. 私のコンピュータ英語と互換性がない、しかし、場合uは次の方法で私に連絡できるライブに私を追加する：Amaya Hikaru 16:08, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Translation provided by Babelfish from Ryo Kasami: Today as for my name as for [amayahikaru], as for me in order to help you it becomes happy. As for me you can understand this, you have asked. There is no my computer English and compatibility, but, when u adds me lively you can communicate to me with the following method.
 * translation by Dr. F - hi everybody my name is amaya hikaru and i am happy to help. as for why you cannot understand me, my computer has no english keys or character map. BUT add me on live and we can communicate presumably amaya speaks english - Dr. F . (your Presumptions are correct)Amaya Hikaru 16:18, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also to note, you can use Yahoo's Babelfish to translate your text before posting so we can all read it :) Ryo Kasami 16:31, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, good.The translator is functional. For future Knowlege, I am also mute. (a medical condition)you can add me at Amaya Hikaru (it is my gamertag as well) thank you for your patience. ^_^Amaya Hikaru 16:17, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

See, the difference between it being a listing and a witch hunt is the way your attitude approaches it. If you're looking to destroy modders and their filthy weapons from the face of Pandora, then yeah, it definitely is a witch hunt. I'm advocating it as a listing to help network the masses to the crowds that they're most comfortable with. If they have a problem with it, I even left a little section for them to rant about it. It's a failing attempt at some sort of civil solution to this, but I'm still going to try it. One because I'm bored at work and two because it'd be nice to see less threads about the evils of modding and how they've corrupted our youth to build shrines to worship some plump bug on a heap of trash. Ryo Kasami 15:27, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * she turned me into a newt! ...i got better.
 * I'm not a modder! I'm not a modder!
 * But you are dressed as one!
 * They modded me up like this!
 * Burn her! Burn the modder!
 * Fryguy42 00:11, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fryguy42 00:11, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Nice call out on slither, hahaha AZS Boggs 15:47, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Wow I spent a long time writing a response to yall now I have to do it again because my comp sucks. Might I say that I did not expect this topic to get this much attention so HEYOO! You guys need to get laid.
 * It’s Xbox only right now but go ahead and start going to town on them post here if you need help on how to do this.
 * Danzig the witch hunt thing is scaring me a little…. burrnn!
 * Well that is true modders can get their guns back with little hassle but, were not targeting the source were merely trimming the hedges getting the people who get them from friends who duplicated them its not a foolproof idea but this is merely a good start.
 * And you are right spoot I was trying to be lenient I will change this
 * However If 10 people manage to get 100 guns that will be a fraction of the population but it is a start.Tbone0923 17:52, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

^ ^ ^ Who is this? Honestly, if you waste your time posting that people need to get laid, I would think you are being held out from some sweet lovin' yourself. Go get some and quit wasting your time. Also, tag your post if you want to be such a pompous fool. Ryo Kasami 18:43, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

If I had to guess, the snide remark was probably from F4T4L TRIP, as he was the last person to edit the page besides you, Ryo. As it turns out, wide assumptions about a large audience of people rarely go over well. AZS Boggs 18:50, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

So who is gonna participateTbone0923 18:56, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

um, would it matter if, when i join a random game, i aski if i can use modded guns? i don't try to pretend because i just have mods given to me by friends. instead of trying to lure me into duping guns just to destroy them, why not just tell me not to use them?

A couple weeks ago, I was hosting a Craw farm hunt. Someone decided to show off their modded guns and started dropping, literally, tons of pearlescents, behind the elevator, next to the vending machines (modded backpack slots, the whole nine). I knew what was going on. I vaguely recall someone mentioning, "don't save." With that, I called another player into the hall for a duel, and once completed, I made an intentional dash for the New-U. Game saved and the cursing began. I played dumb. "Sorry! You should have mentioned something. You should have done it in the open, instead of hiding them behind the elevator. How would I have known they were there if I can't see them?" "Whatever, dude. It's done. Now I have to do all that work all over again." "Whatever. It was your mistake, you fucked up. I apologize, but you should have covered your ass" "Whatever dude. It's done." In short, I intentionally wrecked his modded backpack and sold almost all of his guns after he got pissy and left. And the best part? He thought I was sincere in my mistake and my apology while I smile like the Cheshire cat inside. All part of the plan. BMetcalf82 22:50, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Actually that sounds rather sneaky and unkind, many people can easily be shown that modded guns are not needed, as an example, lets use me. were you to perform this action on me It would serve only to anger me, Can easily re- run the Prog and create massive duplicates in a reasonably short ammount of time... your methods are impractical and unorthadox, it is my recomendation that you find better ways of ridding the world of modded guns...Amaya Hikaru 16:18, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Hey man that was me not cool!!!...just kidding. I only dupe with my trusted friends. BTW the only reason I compared the goal of your clan to a witch hunt is because you wanted to "name and SHAME" modders. I mod for fun and do not go boasting my mods around online and there's no shame in that. I completely agree with ryo though about naming and listing modders to let people know where you stand. If I'm understanding you correctly? --Pimps&#39;N&#39;Giggles 23:44, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Burn her anyway!
00:43, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Clayton gets +3 internets for initiating the Monty Python spiel. -- SanguisDiabolus 01:32, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

I was relatively anti-mod prior to this thread. This wholly not illogical debate has finally convinced me that modding is the Dark Side of gaming. But the Dark Side has doughnuts! So I am officially Pro-Mod now. Thanks for kicking me off the fence. Who wants a Rose Omega "Super Shield" or a Level 808477234 ZPR30 C INVALID Detonating Death shotgun?? (Spoiler: It's gonna take a while to get to Level 808477234)

FYI: I am NOT a modder. (wouldn't know how to mod if you put a Gearbox Shredder Shredder revolver (which I have, by the way) to my head. The credit for these mods goes to The One That Will Follow Me.) Fryguy42 02:18, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

I r m0dd3r....I am sndstream. I really want j0in ur gr0up.....that is all......

Look who it is! Welcome, person who is totally NOT a modder. (w1nk, w1nk) Fryguy42 02:43, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

(revert -ty VD ) - no vandalism boys and girls. dont make me loose fenrakk and his +5 pickaxe of banning on you. hey dot200 read a thread from time to time and dont waste a block on something alot more entertaining than a pta meeting (see history for explanation). anyway wont be seeing him/her for about a week. 04:02, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Ok people im going hunting hide your daughters oh and guys the give it up your efforts are futile messages are funny on xbox live my gamertag is

same as name on hereTbone0923 04:14, May 7, 2010 (UTC

Ok guys this is the truth i was playing a random game and there was this guy who was an idiot and he was telling about a friend of his who was a sort of king pin of modded guns however he does not make them himself he runs a big trading scam and can provide infinite bag space. Well ill need him to do that for me becauase he has 1000 plus guns so im gonna pull a big move tommarow i have plan to get them all however i'm worried. The down side is he is like a super hacker and he told me a few scary storis about him fucking up scammers corrupting their save files hacking their motto's blocking their xbox live connectiion. I'm not scared but i was wondering is that hacking possible? I've heard xbox hacking was impossible but then again wasnt modded guns suppose to be eliminates after the patch so what do you think? I have options leave him alone steal them, take a few , or i could have another operative handle this situation there is five of us im just the only one with an acc here. So should i do it or is it too risky? If i get them ill post screen shots and invite doctor f to the mega dump. Tbone0923 06:13, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * you're on. i haven't played in a week at least. 07:19, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

You should totally steal his guns I mean what's the worst that could happen? It's not like he's a super hacker or anything. But it might actually be funny to hear what he does. The chances are good that he's gonna have a backup though. --Pimps&#39;N&#39;Giggles 10:09, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

So you dont think i could get hacked? How do i back up my guns if i dont have a memory card....Tbone0923 17:19, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Very easily, unassigned poster. As of the latest Xbox update, you can use any portable storage USB device to store copies of profiles and data from your games. It can assign up to 16GB of space, so go buy a flash drive, format it, and bam! You're all backed up! :D Ryo Kasami 16:50, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry forgot to sigTbone0923 17:19, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

I dunno how you would do it without a memory stick but as ryo said it is very easy to backup your save file with Xboxs new update. --Pimps&#39;N&#39;Giggles 19:00, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Oderint dum metuant
I bet Caligula was a modder. Fryguy42 19:02, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

I think Dr. Forrester is right. Unfortunately, instead of playing the game, there will be undercover "modder" patrols.....That doesn't sound like fun at all. I think that the amount of people playing online will drop, because they'll think that most people are cheaters (whether that is actually the case, I don't know), and they will just stop playing online. I only play this on a lan line with 3 or 4 computers, and I don't think i'll ever play this game online. It's like the movie "Sphere".. We all have absolute power, and we're not ready for it. We all have to agree to give up our almost infinite power..... RANDOM NOTE: Watch the movie "a boy and his dog", it's a good post-apocalyptic hell hole movie.

Well he's online i'm gonna see what i can do anyone have anti hack measures i can takeTbone0923 20:56, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * pick up everything, save, split, delete character. rinse, repeat. 22:15, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * I opose modding too, but there is actually some sites where you can reconstruct a gun (not mod) It has power based on its parts, you can only use parts from the same company, it doesn't have OUTRAGEOUS damage or ammo and affects, its really just a gun with a different skin and parts you'd like on it from the same company.
 * Went hunting waiting for that guy with a lot and manages to walk into a trading game and managed to convinve them i was cool befor they kicked me so when i walked in procede to pick as much up as i could before they notice and made a beeline for a save got 25 so win. Anyone want to throw them off the cliff with me you kave 30 minutes to respond.Tbone0923 00:13, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * be right there. 00:17, May 8, 2010 (UTC) oops Dr. F = PC Borderlands player
 * It will take a little longer than thirty minutes, but I will be on within the next 90 minutes, for a few hours. Add me if you like, and I will assist with striking against those modders. BMetcalf82 00:23, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok but if when we throw them away you ren off with them your going on top of my next project the official ass-hat thread.Tbone0923 00:29, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * At this point, I have more of a problem with modded sheilds. Extertionist
 * ^Right there with you man, those shields are really starting to be a pain in the ass, right up there with rocket launchers that lag a game out when shot and players that beg for modded weapons/shields. AZS Boggs 07:43, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * This entire clan is pathetic, sorry for being so blunt. Why waste your time trying to trick some modders when you could be having fun? If you don't like modders, don't play with them. A Lonely Nomad 12:28, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I second that, Nomad. It's incredibly pathetic. I don't mod, nor do I condone it. There's a reason why private matches and hosting features exist. No one is forcing you to use modded guns or play with people who do. I think some people need to find a new hobby to pass the time between the next DLC. The weather's getting pretty nice... maybe you people could be chasing women instead of people who cheat at a videogame.
 * I'd also like to give a special note of attention to Extertionist, who says toward the top of this page that he USED to be okay with modding, until he found legit versions of all the modded guns he had. So now that he has what he wants, he's willing to work to deny people the same slack he gave himself. A little like blowing up the bridge after you cross it, no? What a scumbag.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 18:09, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I am very Anti mod. I mean where's the fun in killing every thing in one hit. Oh yea I also want to know why when I started Dlc 3 on my support gunner why did it have every single quest unlocked from the beginning of the the dlc. I found it weird how I had it's like christmas right from the start despite not even completing the very first quest in T-Bone junction. Also I really have no idea how to mod really or use willowtree.Shane Wesker 01:47, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Did you join someone else's game online and that was when the quests unlocked? I've had that happen to me, albeit to a lesser degree (not so many quests at once on DLC 3, but all of the zombie island quests were immediately unlocked as well, that just didn't bother me as much though). Other than that, I'm not sure how that could have happened, but that kinda sucks either way, sorry to hear it man. AZS Boggs 02:29, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Meh no biggy though it does allow my to repeatedly replay the armory assault mission without it updating the expose munition objective because of the fact that it only completed It's like Christmas so yea it's all good though it quite annoying since no one is over lvl 56 which makes it hard for me to lvl up my roland.Probaly going to have to join some one else's game to get to 61 quicker.Shane Wesker 05:03, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I have a lvl 61 siren and soldier, i'll help you level up if you want, my gamertag is boggsyboy if you're playin on the 360. AZS Boggs 06:08, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you and you won't regret having my char on your team since I have basicly all the healing abilities on my Roland along with my turret being almost completely beefed up along with all artifacts at lvl 6. Basicly just need to grind for 1 lvl at say drifters in roads end on your game and I will be good to go. Basicly your payment is all weapon drops unless it is a really good S & S crux, Dalh Jackal,or a two round Jakob stricker with over 350x7 damage with over 70% accuracy and scope. Shane Wesker 10:51, 9 May 2010
 * I am very Anti mod. I mean where's the fun in killing every thing in one hit. Oh yea I also want to know why when I started Dlc 3 on my support gunner why did it have every single quest unlocked from the beginning of the the dlc. I found it weird how I had it's like christmas right from the start despite not even completing the very first quest in T-Bone junction. Also I really have no idea how to mod really or use willowtree.Shane Wesker 01:47, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Did you join someone else's game online and that was when the quests unlocked? I've had that happen to me, albeit to a lesser degree (not so many quests at once on DLC 3, but all of the zombie island quests were immediately unlocked as well, that just didn't bother me as much though). Other than that, I'm not sure how that could have happened, but that kinda sucks either way, sorry to hear it man. AZS Boggs 02:29, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Meh no biggy though it does allow my to repeatedly replay the armory assault mission without it updating the expose munition objective because of the fact that it only completed It's like Christmas so yea it's all good though it quite annoying since no one is over lvl 56 which makes it hard for me to lvl up my roland.Probaly going to have to join some one else's game to get to 61 quicker.Shane Wesker 05:03, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I have a lvl 61 siren and soldier, i'll help you level up if you want, my gamertag is boggsyboy if you're playin on the 360. AZS Boggs 06:08, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you and you won't regret having my char on your team since I have basicly all the healing abilities on my Roland along with my turret being almost completely beefed up along with all artifacts at lvl 6. Basicly just need to grind for 1 lvl at say drifters in roads end on your game and I will be good to go. Basicly your payment is all weapon drops unless it is a really good S & S crux, Dalh Jackal,or a two round Jakob stricker with over 350x7 damage with over 70% accuracy and scope. Shane Wesker 10:51, 9 May 2010
 * Fair enough, I have a lvl 61 siren and soldier, i'll help you level up if you want, my gamertag is boggsyboy if you're playin on the 360. AZS Boggs 06:08, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you and you won't regret having my char on your team since I have basicly all the healing abilities on my Roland along with my turret being almost completely beefed up along with all artifacts at lvl 6. Basicly just need to grind for 1 lvl at say drifters in roads end on your game and I will be good to go. Basicly your payment is all weapon drops unless it is a really good S & S crux, Dalh Jackal,or a two round Jakob stricker with over 350x7 damage with over 70% accuracy and scope. Shane Wesker 10:51, 9 May 2010
 * Thank you and you won't regret having my char on your team since I have basicly all the healing abilities on my Roland along with my turret being almost completely beefed up along with all artifacts at lvl 6. Basicly just need to grind for 1 lvl at say drifters in roads end on your game and I will be good to go. Basicly your payment is all weapon drops unless it is a really good S & S crux, Dalh Jackal,or a two round Jakob stricker with over 350x7 damage with over 70% accuracy and scope. Shane Wesker 10:51, 9 May 2010
 * Thank you and you won't regret having my char on your team since I have basicly all the healing abilities on my Roland along with my turret being almost completely beefed up along with all artifacts at lvl 6. Basicly just need to grind for 1 lvl at say drifters in roads end on your game and I will be good to go. Basicly your payment is all weapon drops unless it is a really good S & S crux, Dalh Jackal,or a two round Jakob stricker with over 350x7 damage with over 70% accuracy and scope. Shane Wesker 10:51, 9 May 2010

the point of the game is to have fun playing it. period. if modding is fun for you, great. if modding and passing off your gear as au naturale' gives you a warm fuzzy, so be it. if you think its cool to seek out modders proliferating their contrivances and grab their swag and make off with it, fine. but if you think deriding any of the above on an open forum _on the internet_ is ok,. . . . well im ok with that too. just dont take anything seriously and dont expect to be taken seriously either and well all get along swimmingly. oh and SW, i think boggs is right. that is almost always the case when quests are open ahead of time. it might have happened in another area during multiplayer as a storm of messages appeared at the top of your screen. easy enough to miss. let me know if this is not the case so we can look into it. ~02:43, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

I am pro-duping and modding, but just to debate with those who think that they are doing the right thing, do you really think that you are making a difference? The number of modded guns are duped at a multiple rate by people like me for others who want them. this means, for all those who are too stupid to know, that if i have a rose omega shield, i can drop it in a friends game, save, quit, join, pick it up, save, drop, rinse and repeat. in less than 20 runs i will have more than 500,000 rose omegas. Of course you may think that, if you convince me to give the guns to you, then you can delete all 500,000, well you can't, unless i modded my backpack, there would be no need to keep all of them. Thus, i give the shield to people who want a lot less challenge and we have a blast. leveling others on Crawmerax is so much easier and funner when he cant do a thing to you, because you don't die every two seconds. Plus, Gearbox, as well as everyone else, should know that by modding, people make a choice that this is how they want to play a game. I don't use the Rose Omega all the time, just when i like to play casually with friends. The only reason Gearbox put restrictions on the guns is because they made the game servers WAY to laggy. So instead of making other players miserable by taking away their fun, play private matches or host a game and boot modders. i would put my signature, but i bet some of you bloodthirsty anti-modders will try to delete my guns.

Consoles drive the market, not PC's. So those of us who play on the PC got screwed. Way it goes. But I invite any anti-mod'rs to go and check out what USED to be possible, like red text weapons--way cool. As for mod'n in general, it's what humans do. Come on--check out a magazine rack ("You can make [..insert your favorte thing here...] better!"). Having won that argument, there's room for all. If you don't like mods, join the clan. And one last point: mod'n began LONG before Borderlands (ex: Nexuiz, L4D) and it will be around until, well, the end of time. Did I mention that's what we humans do? &mdash;

"I'd also like to give a special note of attention to Extertionist, who says toward the top of this page that he USED to be okay with modding, until he found legit versions of all the modded guns he had. So now that he has what he wants, he's willing to work to deny people the same slack he gave himself. A little like blowing up the bridge after you cross it, no? What a scumbag.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 18:09, May 8, 2010 (UTC) " Hmm, good point, but the people in this clan goe after are the ones that take the fun out of the game because of their overpowered equipment. I'm okay with modding as long as there can be a legit counterpart. But the Craw one shot guns are bullshit.

Extertionist

Then in my book, I'd consider you a constructor, not a true modder. I feel that modders go beyond the normal extent of the game to entertain themselves. I tried to cut it some slack, I tried to go into a game and not say anything about mods. But when I sit there and watch a person take countless bullets\craw maggots to the face and no take a single point of damage, the fun aspect of the game is over. Especially after asking once before that I didn't enjoy mods in my rooms, but I said "I won't get anal about it this time." Nope, I reassert my last claim. No mods, period. Ryo Kasami 13:24, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

That's what I've picked up doing instead too. I usually only create my own games now, and when people join I give them my little disclaimer about modded guns and shields, and tell em to keep them in their inventory. To my suprise actually, 95% of people i ask are completely fine with it, which was a pretty cool in and of itself. AZS Boggs 16:10, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

@ Exertionist, the bessie can be a 1 shot on Craw

I'm really curious how that is even possible. What's the build, the stats on the gun, class mods, etc? I find that highly improbable but I leave a shred of open mindedness to surprise me if this is true. :) Ryo Kasami 14:17, May 11, 2010 (UTC) No offence, but this is kind of pathetic lol. If you don't like modded guns, then don't associate with them. It doesn't mean you have to pull a Salem Witch Hunt. What you people are doing is full out McCarthyism. I mean, get real. You can't get rid of modded guns, they will just keep coming back. You can't stop it. If people want to use them, then that is their choice. You can't make them stop, you aren't the boss of them. Yes, I use modded guns to play around with when I am not doing anything serious. None of my friends have problems with it. But this is just sad. And most of you are hipocrites. XMPx Nova 14:50, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * With the right COM and skills, the Bessie can almost take out one critical hit region per shot, each round doing at least 12k damage (disclaimer: I have not been able to take out the eye with one shot yet, as it has ~15k HP). You can never "1 shot Craw" because you cannot deal more damage to Crawmerax than the region you are shooting allows - you could say each region has its own HP. --Nagamarky 14:39, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Why are you complaining about something that is obvious? It's people's choice to use modded guns, and it's also people's choice to begin a witch hunt. Also, it's human to be a hypocrite XD Please, just go look at the RK Jollies Listing and see the kind of order that's trying to be established with this topic so it doesn't look so much like a witch hunt. I was just curious as to whether or not it was truly possible, modded or not. Ryo Kasami 15:01, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

I established this thread to get some people together and organize something i think is FUN. I did not want a debate ( I do that at school) its like arguing what color is best and if one group wants to go burn anything blue just to watch it burn i say have fun. Tbone0923 21:26, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

If you guys are really that serious about preventing mods, then only play with your clan members, and have a private blacklist for clan members. You might see it as "fun," but the simple truth is that you may or may not be ruining the game for people who can't defend themselves here. Otherwise, you're just dicks, and this thread is proof enough that you're doing shit that is worthy of being blacklisted by anyone, legit player or modder. Shotgunmaniac 23:26, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Not to say that everyone here is using the best language ever, but such a major call out of "everyone" on this thread is borderline trollish. Regardless, I see where you're coming from saying that joining a person's game for the sole purpose of taking their guns as being a serious jerk move. However, if you had read the entire thread instead of making assumptions from the title and the OP's first post, you might have noticed that the general mood of this thread has swung from "crazy witch hunt & death to all who mod" to "to each their own, you play the game your way, and I'll play it my way." If you want proof of this movement in attitude, look no further than RK Jollies Listing, which provides gamers a place to profess what kind of gamer they are, free from discrimination either way. AZS Boggs 23:41, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

The only mod i would like is the RoseOmega Shield(just for power leveling/craw runs) so i can keep from losing my entire CashStash If someone would dupe me one that would be great. Xbox Gamertag:Mazman1521 23:52, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Ok a lot to do here shotgunmaniac everything after the first sentence can be applied to moders too. Keep your guns in your inventory unless your private matching.

Azs Boggs I have never declared a witch a hunt on modders i just wanted to do something that i found fun to do that would teach modders to play the game or fuck off. How is my move more of a jerk move than these people hacking the game and ruining MY gaming experience. Also shut the fuck up about grammar this is a forum everyone here is speaking in english so stop going over our thread with a red pen you grammar troll.

MAZMAN GET THE FUCKS OFF MY THREAD I WILL NOT STAND FOR THAT BULLSHIT ON MY THREAD YOU GOD-DAMNED IDIOT < Sorry about the fit guysTbone0923 02:31, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Admins if you can close or delete this thread please or let it die guys i'm tired of the active discussion taking place If you are interested in this movement my Gt (ON XBOX) .Tbone0923 02:29, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

I would have had a few choice words for that guy as well. There are shit tons of modding threads out there even specific ones for the rose omega. Why oh why would you ask something so stupid on THIS thread about ANTI MODDING!? --Pimps&#39;N&#39;Giggles 02:46, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, poor choice there Mazman.... But on another note, who was getting after your grammar Tbone? And that's true, you didn't declare the witchhunt, that idea goes to Pimps'N'Giggles, lol. Anyways, it's pretty easy to see either parties' beef with the other, and unfortunately although you may have fun doing what you're doing, and don't let me tell you not to do it, but mostly what you'll be accomplishing is polarizing the debate between legit players and modders, and the latter will more than likely try ever harder to spread their influence instead of backing down. Just my two cents though, and again, I agree that people who use modded guns/items/shields in my game does ruin MY experience. AZS Boggs 02:59, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

I was the one who originally stated that this was like a witch hunt because of the shaming part but after seeing the RK jollies listing and placing where I stand, I retract my previous statement. (maybe a little too late as we've seen that idea carried throughout this whole thread) --Pimps&#39;N&#39;Giggles 03:25, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Edited just for you man, hahaha AZS Boggs 03:50, May 12, 2010 (UTC)