Forum talk:Xbox 360/ 12.5 fire rate glorious serpens please!

I doubt if it is even possible for a Serpens to have a fire rate of greater than 8.8, but I stand corrected if and only if you provide more details (if your memory disappeared along with the savefile then I can't help you) 11:25, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

jdk zombie here again, yes i seen it with my own eyes from my friends file when he did the last armory run. 12,5 fire rate...no shit right. unfortunately, his file corrupted and he has vowed to no longer play the game until gearbox comes up with a better saving system ( idk he was just ranting perhaps) there has to be others out there with a super high fr for the serpens, hell i used to think that i would never find a a volcano with more than 800 dmg, now i got one that does 1100 and an orion that does 1012 dmg. like i said, i got some exquisite goodies to trade or dupe if someone can dupe of trade me a serpens with decent fire rate. it doesnt have to be 12.5 but it'd sure be nice. perhaps 10 then...how about a 10 fire rate lol

Well, your eyes decieved you or you were on crack. Unless modded, the highest rate of a serpens will be 8.8. You can increase the fire rate perminatly to a higher rate with the siren's skill, but you won't find a serpens with a base rate of fire higher than 8.8. P.S. cocaine is a hell of a drug- Rick James. Please snort while on the wiki.LOL =) 00:48, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, yes shit. No Serpens can have a 12.5 fire rate, neither can an Orion have 1012 damage. A high ~1000 Volcano may also be constructed. 07:06, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

zombie again, idk,17 million weapons in the game, and you guys are saying that the possibility of finding one with a 12.5 is never going to happen? idk, ive found weapons that were in the high 900 dmg ( sniper rifles) that the wiki showed ( at the time ) to have the max dmg being 700 something. ( the surkov sniper actually) i can assure you my orion isnt modded. i had it since the underdome dlc, right before knoxx was released. and in case you guys forgot they patched the dlc so anything modded was deleted from your file when you downloaded the update to play the knoxx dlc. i had a machine gun that did 450 dmg that i thought was legit as it still had all its pieces, used ammo, and wasnt insanely powerful, it even had shitty accuracy, but apparently it was modded as when i went to tbone junction for the first time, BAM it was gone, but my orion stayed. so i guess ill find out if its "still modded" when the new dlc comes out the 28th.

Again please stop snorting. It doesn't matter how many guns there are. Every gun has a limitation, unless you mod of coarse. For example, if I "FIND" a gun that shoots vaginas at people, just because I found with when playing with someone i.e friend, it doesn't imply that it is real. The serpens has a cap of 8.8 fire rate and orions cant have that much damage. Even if it could, you claimed to have found it before knox, and no sniper rifles at all had a base damage above 900, not counting the skullmasher. All in all, unless you are high or just want attention,please stop posting requests for guns that dont exist with those stats. If you want those, you will have to ask someone to mod a serpens for you. Im sure you dont mind owning modded weapons because of the fact that you already use a few. 21:37, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

again, im not "snorting" and furthermore quit implying said drug abuse. and if u find a gun that shoots vaginas at people i want one too dammit. i went and interrogatted said friend with aforementioned serpens and he said he had indeed recieved it modded and just opened a box threw it one the ground and picked it up giving me the impression that where he was in the armory he found that gun. so sue me. i fell for the old throw out a weapon then open a box and pick it back up trick. and and by high 900 i meant inbetween 900 and 1000. and if you think this shits modded come join my room, ill go kick crawms ass and when he drops 1000+ dmg sniper rifles then you can go back and rethink that nifty i know everything about borderlands strategy you suck at.

Okay, now you're just being mentally retarded. Go ckeck anywhere. The highest damage you can have for orions are 1019 (if I'm not mistaken) at LvL 61. You said you aquired it before knoxx, making it impossible to have a lvl 49 orion with 1012 damage. Also if you weren't dropped on your head a few times, you would have understood me when I said you could'nt get +1000 sniper rifles before Knoxx. All in all its modded. 00:17, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

This thread is beginning to cross the threshold into flame-land... Please, take it to the Flaming page and give us our first real reason for having a dedicated ass-ripping thread. :)GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 00:20, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

May I suggest GearCalc to quell your "disagreement?"

Yup, just used gear calc and I was right. With Vicious as the prefix, SandS material 3 and LvL 61,body 5,barrel 4, and mag 5 you get 1019 damage.At lvl 49, it can only do 784 damage max. Just shows how far people go to convince themselves that their moddd weapon is real. To the original crack snorting, glue sniffing, air sol inhaling, dropped on the head artard, your gun is modded.If you need help to help yourself to stop trying to convince yourself modded guns are real, I suggest you go see MeMadelt. He is the next Dr.Phil and helped me to help him to help me to stop seeing vaginas when ever I would shoot. 01:38, September 18, 2010 (UTC)<---(dillweed)

I would just like to point out that not every modded gun was deleted because of the patch - some weapons still snuck by.

Also, Afghan... When I enter in a level 61 orion with liquid, body 5, barrel 4, mag 5, GearCalc says it's not legit... Highest I can get is 932 with 2.7 Rof, and 961 with a 1.7 Rof.

Because it says the prefix isn't legit, even though it is. There are a few vicious orions listed on the orion talk page chart and I own a few myself. I'll Post a pic of the one I made on gear calc with the vicious prefix. 02:06, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

The gun in the picture is not legit. The fire rate is too high for the "vicious" prefix, it should be "liquid" as fast as it is. NOhara24 02:12, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I made it on gearcalc. I not sure if viscious is a legit orion prefix, but there are a few with it on the orion talk page chart and I own a few myself. and liquid just increases the fire rate to 2.7 I dont know, if vicious is'nt a legit prefix for it then, that proves my point even further becuase then that would mean, it could only go up to 961. 02:29, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

A friend of mine had this happen. He got an orion, WT'd it and gave it the vicious prefix. The game accepted it the first couple times, then deleted it. I'm thinking "liquid" may be the only legit prefix. In GearCalc, it shows the Firehawk can have the "Noble" prefix, but it will never spawn in game. Maybe it's something like that. NOhara24 02:35, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

That gun in the pic is not legit. It's way too fast at that damage to not be prefixed as a liquid. @Nohara: Vicious is a legit prefix, though I'm fairly sure a Vicious Orion tops out at 1.8/1.9 rof.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 02:40, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

@ CJ, I have never seen one, and the one time I did, it was WT'd with a fire rate of 1.7. Not saying you aren't right, but I'm just explaining why I didn't think it was legit. NOhara24 02:46, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, I've never seen a vicious either. I'm just basing this off of what Nagy said when the same issue arose over Kuragari's allegedly legit (but not really) PPZ/Liquid/Vicious Orion. Those are the only two legit prefixes, though, and apparently liquid must be more common.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 02:52, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

As I stated before, liquid is the common prefix which Jarrad just seconded. With body two,barrel 4,mag5, and material 3, it has a fire rate of 1.4 and 961 damage. With everything the same except body 5,it has a fire rate of 2.4 and 1019 damage. For some reason gear calc is saying with vicious body 2 is legit,but with body 5, its not. 03:00, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

body 5 boosts ROF so it would force the liquid prefix and lower damage, but body 2 keeps the ROF low enough to allow vicious, which boosts damage. They call me Hellz Lips 03:41, September 18, 2010 (UTC)



Afghan Psycho (and OP and whoever bloody else), give it up. I can say with confidence that no Orion does >1000 damage. I don't even care what GearCalc says anymore. Calculation is here. Read it and give it a rest. EDIT: There are only that many possible fire rates for Orions, and Vicious caps at 1.4. Possible fire rates for different prefixes may vary with other sniper rifles due to manufacturer materials and accessories. 03:43, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I was gonna say... I'm pretty sure I got a perfect Liquid construct in a trade once and it was something like 927 damage and 2.7 rof.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 03:45, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't saying that it was accurate, i was just saying thats what gear calc said. This just proves even further that his weapon is modded. I was just trying to say that it was impossible to have a 1012 Lvl 49 orion. 03:58, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Then please ensure that you type the correct numbers and not change them afterwards like you just did. EDIT: Y'know what, I'm going to partial-revert that and you can correct yourself here. No use trying to change what you previously typed and render all our replies pointless. I would suggest you learn how GearCalc fails on many occasions before making claims you're going to change later. 04:31, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

zombie again, ok not gonna lie, you guys lost me at gearcalc. wtf ever that is. lol. and to the slanderizing buffoon afghan, i got some free time today and turned on my xbox, mi stand corrected, my orion is lvl 61 with 1019 dmg. to make things clear about modded content. i dont really approve of it in online play. offline is ok, your only gonna mess up your own game eventually. but it really sucks joining a room and dueling someone to find out they have a shield that has over 2 billion shield points.....and weapons that do ridiculous stats....for what? to kill craw? me and my bud can rape his ass in a few minutes with the twisted nemesis and the orion. however, i have noticed that the games supposed "random" weapon spawn isnt very goddam random. i have seen more fucking firehawks, thanatos, defilers, saviors, guardians, trolls, rebels, and damn equalizers than i can shake a stick at. and why is craw carrying so much crap? like white, green and blue weapons? for him being the biggest baddest thing in the game, he sure doesnt pack anything awesome. since apparently people have a better chance of winning the powerball lottery twice, in the same day than finding pearlescent weapons from crawmerax. oh and the the lvl 49 weapon with 1012 i was referring to was in fact just a regular old s&s liquid invader, my lvl 49 orion only did like 700 something dmg. i got them all mixed up. my bad. im sorry. so stop slandering and maybe people will still respect you. ( not likely but its worth a shot)

"1012 S+S liquid Invader" - Does anyone else care to explain all the things that are wrong with that one? I am just warn out on this shit.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 06:44, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

(The Executioner caps at below 600 and is manufactured by Hyperion.) Oh by the way, a Twisted Nemesis is modded too. Stop whining and maybe people will still respect you. EDIT: Hold up, you want us to stop slandering you (when you obviously can't remember anything and can't tell mods from legitimate weapons) and maybe people will still respect us? Oh, so we're disrespected now. And what does that make you? 07:08, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I would like to add to that : not deleting people's comments from forum threads when they call you out on bullshit as well.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 07:20, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I would like to point out to AfganPsycho that the statement "You could'nt get +1000 sniper rifles before Knoxx." is false. I have found a few Jakobs 'XX' Fearsome Thunders that did over 1000 dmg and were also pre-Knoxx. LoZ4Ever 07:45, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

the twisted nemesis is a moddded pistol? hmm makes sense i guess...it seemed entirely too awesome for its own good. (also like to make note that this computer i use is also used by my other 2 roommates that also have the game. and unfortunately they like to use my login to post stupid shit. i apologize for this and will be be registering so that they cant use my name anymore without my password. ) i didnt find the twisted nemesis, i actually got it from somebody online. hmm, that sucks...that totally owns crawmerax and his armored and maggot minions... who do i speak to so i can have these bullshit posts on here using my ip address removed?

in addition to the post above this one. attention, the user here with unregistered Id as jdk zombie was my roommate, using my gamertag as his "handle" i have since registered my user name here with the wiki so that the differentiation can be made between me JdK ZomBiE and my roommates' posts. i apologize for the random BS that has been posted here, if anyone know how i can delete them please let me know. i dont give a rats about a 12.5 serpens. im happy with the one i have, i have an orion, whether its modded or not idc, it kills things fast and thats all that matters. i will not be posting to this thread anymore. ( as long as i can moderate, neither will my roommate...from this computer anyways.)ZomBiE 08:58, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

<!-- Can anyone say "tail between his legs"? This roommate business isn't very believable (and you are probably going to rage at this moment before listening to explanations) because your typing is no different from IP address - no space after ellipsis, no first letter capitalization, occasional spacing inside the brackets etc.

Also, why should we remove the post above that if it was made by your username? It's not random BS, it's commonplace BS in defence of weapons naively perceived as legitimate. So to that end, removing the posts is just going to cover it up. 11:40, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yo, stop making excusses, its over. Almost everything you said has been bullshit so far,and no one is going to accept that roommate bull. You are one of the worst liers I have heard. At leat make it a good lie so I can have some fun. Also to LoZ4Ever, then I guess you are lucky. The highest jakobs fearsome thunder that i found was 1100 something damage, .03 fire rate and it was lvl 61. My bad for the statement of +1000 pre Knoxx snipers. I guess I was wrong. Also Nag, I just changed the numbers to ensure my numbers were accurate. In the future I wont edit old post but simply post the correct numbers. 15:12, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, how about everyone just leave the guy alone. I personally have had roommates mess with my shit and people think it was me so i can relate to it. and whether or not you guys believe him, and your quip, "its almos the same typing??? really? Wow, somebody spends way too much time on the Borderlands Wiki. Its not nice berating the FNGs because they lack the "I know everything there is to know about Borderlands" complex the Nag and Afghan seem to have. How about instead of downing him and leaving to his bleed out bar, learn him the error of his ways and simply post correction. name calling, (afghan in majority) isnt the proper way to get your point across. and so what if he thought said weapons were legit? idk how many times ive got weapons from people online that looked and acted legit, but come to find out were modded. if only slightly. and "tail between his legs"??? jesus nag, just cuz ur a mod here you dont have to act like you just won the tour de france on a unicycle just because the guy is giving up on the arguement, since the only reality you want to accept is your own. its guys likea fghan and nag here that only serve to make forum browsing a negative experience, since if its not the one -uppers, its the downers you have to look out for. i will be requesting with dr. f that this entire thread be deleted for blatant stupidity on 3 peoples parts. Zombie. Afghan. and Nag. suggest

I'm not a mod - with no intention of applying to be one - and I don't "know everything there is to know about Borderlands". Heck, I sure wish I do, but I don't. Don't prance in here with your almighty complex labels and start throwing them around.


 * my first two posts = stating clearly why the mentioned weapons are not possible based on game-generated parts
 * third post = proof for Orion prefixes and damage
 * fourth = reply to AP
 * fifth = reply to CJ, stating that the Nemesis is modded, replying zombie's/roommate's inappropriately pointed comment

And the sixth would be the one you are directly replying to. I am merely pointing out similarities in typing styles which, to me at least, are way too similar to ignore given the circumstances. If there is in fact a roommate - and I am open to the possibility - then I am more than willing to stand corrected if it is indeed the case. Such a correction does not require your tone.

Also, not knowing that they're modded is besides the point, the point being denial.

Template is as such. And sign your posts. 17:43, September 18, 2010 (UTC) -->

So far, the most rational comment I have seen in this thread was: "This thread is beginning to cross the threshold into flame-land... Please, take it to the Flaming page and give us our first real reason for having a dedicated ass-ripping thread. :)GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 00:20, September 18, 2010 (UTC)" Regarding Orions, every Vicious I have found has had 1.4 rof and every Liquid 2.7 rof. Several found in solo games may be found on this page. Highest Vicious DMG is 1019, Highest Liquid is 932. And in regards to the continued flaming wars which seem to suddenly be pooping with with increasing frequency in everywhere except the designated thread, Dr. HAX has this to say:

That is all. 18:24, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Eh, isn't the highest Vicious only a 961? 1019 is with a perfect body5/mag5/barrel4 Liquid construct modded with Vicious. 18:39, September 18, 2010 (UTC) I doubt if it is even possible for a Serpens to have a fire rate of greater than 8.8, but I stand corrected if and only if you provide more details (if your memory disappeared along with the savefile then I can't help you) 11:25, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

jdk zombie here again, yes i seen it with my own eyes from my friends file when he did the last armory run. 12,5 fire rate...no shit right. unfortunately, his file corrupted and he has vowed to no longer play the game until gearbox comes up with a better saving system ( idk he was just ranting perhaps) there has to be others out there with a super high fr for the serpens, hell i used to think that i would never find a a volcano with more than 800 dmg, now i got one that does 1100 and an orion that does 1012 dmg. like i said, i got some exquisite goodies to trade or dupe if someone can dupe of trade me a serpens with decent fire rate. it doesnt have to be 12.5 but it'd sure be nice. perhaps 10 then...how about a 10 fire rate lol

Well, your eyes decieved you or you were on crack. Unless modded, the highest rate of a serpens will be 8.8. You can increase the fire rate perminatly to a higher rate with the siren's skill, but you won't find a serpens with a base rate of fire higher than 8.8. P.S. cocaine is a hell of a drug- Rick James. Please snort while on the wiki.LOL =) 00:48, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, yes shit. No Serpens can have a 12.5 fire rate, neither can an Orion have 1012 damage. A high ~1000 Volcano may also be constructed. 07:06, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

zombie again, idk,17 million weapons in the game, and you guys are saying that the possibility of finding one with a 12.5 is never going to happen? idk, ive found weapons that were in the high 900 dmg ( sniper rifles) that the wiki showed ( at the time ) to have the max dmg being 700 something. ( the surkov sniper actually) i can assure you my orion isnt modded. i had it since the underdome dlc, right before knoxx was released. and in case you guys forgot they patched the dlc so anything modded was deleted from your file when you downloaded the update to play the knoxx dlc. i had a machine gun that did 450 dmg that i thought was legit as it still had all its pieces, used ammo, and wasnt insanely powerful, it even had shitty accuracy, but apparently it was modded as when i went to tbone junction for the first time, BAM it was gone, but my orion stayed. so i guess ill find out if its "still modded" when the new dlc comes out the 28th.

Again please stop snorting. It doesn't matter how many guns there are. Every gun has a limitation, unless you mod of coarse. For example, if I "FIND" a gun that shoots vaginas at people, just because I found with when playing with someone i.e friend, it doesn't imply that it is real. The serpens has a cap of 8.8 fire rate and orions cant have that much damage. Even if it could, you claimed to have found it before knox, and no sniper rifles at all had a base damage above 900, not counting the skullmasher. All in all, unless you are high or just want attention,please stop posting requests for guns that dont exist with those stats. If you want those, you will have to ask someone to mod a serpens for you. Im sure you dont mind owning modded weapons because of the fact that you already use a few. 21:37, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

again, im not "snorting" and furthermore quit implying said drug abuse. and if u find a gun that shoots vaginas at people i want one too dammit. i went and interrogatted said friend with aforementioned serpens and he said he had indeed recieved it modded and just opened a box threw it one the ground and picked it up giving me the impression that where he was in the armory he found that gun. so sue me. i fell for the old throw out a weapon then open a box and pick it back up trick. and and by high 900 i meant inbetween 900 and 1000. and if you think this shits modded come join my room, ill go kick crawms ass and when he drops 1000+ dmg sniper rifles then you can go back and rethink that nifty i know everything about borderlands strategy you suck at.

Okay, now you're just being mentally retarded. Go ckeck anywhere. The highest damage you can have for orions are 1019 (if I'm not mistaken) at LvL 61. You said you aquired it before knoxx, making it impossible to have a lvl 49 orion with 1012 damage. Also if you weren't dropped on your head a few times, you would have understood me when I said you could'nt get +1000 sniper rifles before Knoxx. All in all its modded. 00:17, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

This thread is beginning to cross the threshold into flame-land... Please, take it to the Flaming page and give us our first real reason for having a dedicated ass-ripping thread. :)GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 00:20, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

May I suggest GearCalc to quell your "disagreement?"

Yup, just used gear calc and I was right. With Vicious as the prefix, SandS material 3 and LvL 61,body 5,barrel 4, and mag 5 you get 1019 damage.At lvl 49, it can only do 784 damage max. Just shows how far people go to convince themselves that their moddd weapon is real. To the original crack snorting, glue sniffing, air sol inhaling, dropped on the head artard, your gun is modded.If you need help to help yourself to stop trying to convince yourself modded guns are real, I suggest you go see MeMadelt. He is the next Dr.Phil and helped me to help him to help me to stop seeing vaginas when ever I would shoot. 01:38, September 18, 2010 (UTC)<---(dillweed)

I would just like to point out that not every modded gun was deleted because of the patch - some weapons still snuck by.

Also, Afghan... When I enter in a level 61 orion with liquid, body 5, barrel 4, mag 5, GearCalc says it's not legit... Highest I can get is 932 with 2.7 Rof, and 961 with a 1.7 Rof.

Because it says the prefix isn't legit, even though it is. There are a few vicious orions listed on the orion talk page chart and I own a few myself. I'll Post a pic of the one I made on gear calc with the vicious prefix. 02:06, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

The gun in the picture is not legit. The fire rate is too high for the "vicious" prefix, it should be "liquid" as fast as it is. NOhara24 02:12, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I made it on gearcalc. I not sure if viscious is a legit orion prefix, but there are a few with it on the orion talk page chart and I own a few myself. and liquid just increases the fire rate to 2.7 I dont know, if vicious is'nt a legit prefix for it then, that proves my point even further becuase then that would mean, it could only go up to 961. 02:29, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

A friend of mine had this happen. He got an orion, WT'd it and gave it the vicious prefix. The game accepted it the first couple times, then deleted it. I'm thinking "liquid" may be the only legit prefix. In GearCalc, it shows the Firehawk can have the "Noble" prefix, but it will never spawn in game. Maybe it's something like that. NOhara24 02:35, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

That gun in the pic is not legit. It's way too fast at that damage to not be prefixed as a liquid. @Nohara: Vicious is a legit prefix, though I'm fairly sure a Vicious Orion tops out at 1.8/1.9 rof.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 02:40, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

@ CJ, I have never seen one, and the one time I did, it was WT'd with a fire rate of 1.7. Not saying you aren't right, but I'm just explaining why I didn't think it was legit. NOhara24 02:46, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, I've never seen a vicious either. I'm just basing this off of what Nagy said when the same issue arose over Kuragari's allegedly legit (but not really) PPZ/Liquid/Vicious Orion. Those are the only two legit prefixes, though, and apparently liquid must be more common.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 02:52, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

As I stated before, liquid is the common prefix which Jarrad just seconded. With body two,barrel 4,mag5, and material 3, it has a fire rate of 1.4 and 961 damage. With everything the same except body 5,it has a fire rate of 2.4 and 1019 damage. For some reason gear calc is saying with vicious body 2 is legit,but with body 5, its not. 03:00, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

body 5 boosts ROF so it would force the liquid prefix and lower damage, but body 2 keeps the ROF low enough to allow vicious, which boosts damage. They call me Hellz Lips 03:41, September 18, 2010 (UTC)



Afghan Psycho (and OP and whoever bloody else), give it up. I can say with confidence that no Orion does >1000 damage. I don't even care what GearCalc says anymore. Calculation is here. Read it and give it a rest. EDIT: There are only that many possible fire rates for Orions, and Vicious caps at 1.4. Possible fire rates for different prefixes may vary with other sniper rifles due to manufacturer materials and accessories. 03:43, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I was gonna say... I'm pretty sure I got a perfect Liquid construct in a trade once and it was something like 927 damage and 2.7 rof.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 03:45, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't saying that it was accurate, i was just saying thats what gear calc said. This just proves even further that his weapon is modded. I was just trying to say that it was impossible to have a 1012 Lvl 49 orion. 03:58, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Then please ensure that you type the correct numbers and not change them afterwards like you just did. EDIT: Y'know what, I'm going to partial-revert that and you can correct yourself here. No use trying to change what you previously typed and render all our replies pointless. I would suggest you learn how GearCalc fails on many occasions before making claims you're going to change later. 04:31, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

zombie again, ok not gonna lie, you guys lost me at gearcalc. wtf ever that is. lol. and to the slanderizing buffoon afghan, i got some free time today and turned on my xbox, mi stand corrected, my orion is lvl 61 with 1019 dmg. to make things clear about modded content. i dont really approve of it in online play. offline is ok, your only gonna mess up your own game eventually. but it really sucks joining a room and dueling someone to find out they have a shield that has over 2 billion shield points.....and weapons that do ridiculous stats....for what? to kill craw? me and my bud can rape his ass in a few minutes with the twisted nemesis and the orion. however, i have noticed that the games supposed "random" weapon spawn isnt very goddam random. i have seen more fucking firehawks, thanatos, defilers, saviors, guardians, trolls, rebels, and damn equalizers than i can shake a stick at. and why is craw carrying so much crap? like white, green and blue weapons? for him being the biggest baddest thing in the game, he sure doesnt pack anything awesome. since apparently people have a better chance of winning the powerball lottery twice, in the same day than finding pearlescent weapons from crawmerax. oh and the the lvl 49 weapon with 1012 i was referring to was in fact just a regular old s&s liquid invader, my lvl 49 orion only did like 700 something dmg. i got them all mixed up. my bad. im sorry. so stop slandering and maybe people will still respect you. ( not likely but its worth a shot)

"1012 S+S liquid Invader" - Does anyone else care to explain all the things that are wrong with that one? I am just warn out on this shit.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 06:44, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

(The Executioner caps at below 600 and is manufactured by Hyperion.) Oh by the way, a Twisted Nemesis is modded too. Stop whining and maybe people will still respect you. EDIT: Hold up, you want us to stop slandering you (when you obviously can't remember anything and can't tell mods from legitimate weapons) and maybe people will still respect us? Oh, so we're disrespected now. And what does that make you? 07:08, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I would like to add to that : not deleting people's comments from forum threads when they call you out on bullshit as well.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 07:20, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I would like to point out to AfganPsycho that the statement "You could'nt get +1000 sniper rifles before Knoxx." is false. I have found a few Jakobs 'XX' Fearsome Thunders that did over 1000 dmg and were also pre-Knoxx. LoZ4Ever 07:45, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

the twisted nemesis is a moddded pistol? hmm makes sense i guess...it seemed entirely too awesome for its own good. (also like to make note that this computer i use is also used by my other 2 roommates that also have the game. and unfortunately they like to use my login to post stupid shit. i apologize for this and will be be registering so that they cant use my name anymore without my password. ) i didnt find the twisted nemesis, i actually got it from somebody online. hmm, that sucks...that totally owns crawmerax and his armored and maggot minions... who do i speak to so i can have these bullshit posts on here using my ip address removed?

in addition to the post above this one. attention, the user here with unregistered Id as jdk zombie was my roommate, using my gamertag as his "handle" i have since registered my user name here with the wiki so that the differentiation can be made between me JdK ZomBiE and my roommates' posts. i apologize for the random BS that has been posted here, if anyone know how i can delete them please let me know. i dont give a rats about a 12.5 serpens. im happy with the one i have, i have an orion, whether its modded or not idc, it kills things fast and thats all that matters. i will not be posting to this thread anymore. ( as long as i can moderate, neither will my roommate...from this computer anyways.)ZomBiE 08:58, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

<!-- Can anyone say "tail between his legs"? This roommate business isn't very believable (and you are probably going to rage at this moment before listening to explanations) because your typing is no different from IP address - no space after ellipsis, no first letter capitalization, occasional spacing inside the brackets etc.

Also, why should we remove the post above that if it was made by your username? It's not random BS, it's commonplace BS in defence of weapons naively perceived as legitimate. So to that end, removing the posts is just going to cover it up. 11:40, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yo, stop making excusses, its over. Almost everything you said has been bullshit so far,and no one is going to accept that roommate bull. You are one of the worst liers I have heard. At leat make it a good lie so I can have some fun. Also to LoZ4Ever, then I guess you are lucky. The highest jakobs fearsome thunder that i found was 1100 something damage, .03 fire rate and it was lvl 61. My bad for the statement of +1000 pre Knoxx snipers. I guess I was wrong. Also Nag, I just changed the numbers to ensure my numbers were accurate. In the future I wont edit old post but simply post the correct numbers. 15:12, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, how about everyone just leave the guy alone. I personally have had roommates mess with my shit and people think it was me so i can relate to it. and whether or not you guys believe him, and your quip, "its almos the same typing??? really? Wow, somebody spends way too much time on the Borderlands Wiki. Its not nice berating the FNGs because they lack the "I know everything there is to know about Borderlands" complex the Nag and Afghan seem to have. How about instead of downing him and leaving to his bleed out bar, learn him the error of his ways and simply post correction. name calling, (afghan in majority) isnt the proper way to get your point across. and so what if he thought said weapons were legit? idk how many times ive got weapons from people online that looked and acted legit, but come to find out were modded. if only slightly. and "tail between his legs"??? jesus nag, just cuz ur a mod here you dont have to act like you just won the tour de france on a unicycle just because the guy is giving up on the arguement, since the only reality you want to accept is your own. its guys likea fghan and nag here that only serve to make forum browsing a negative experience, since if its not the one -uppers, its the downers you have to look out for. i will be requesting with dr. f that this entire thread be deleted for blatant stupidity on 3 peoples parts. Zombie. Afghan. and Nag. suggest

I'm not a mod - with no intention of applying to be one - and I don't "know everything there is to know about Borderlands". Heck, I sure wish I do, but I don't. Don't prance in here with your almighty complex labels and start throwing them around.


 * my first two posts = stating clearly why the mentioned weapons are not possible based on game-generated parts
 * third post = proof for Orion prefixes and damage
 * fourth = reply to AP
 * fifth = reply to CJ, stating that the Nemesis is modded, replying zombie's/roommate's inappropriately pointed comment

And the sixth would be the one you are directly replying to. I am merely pointing out similarities in typing styles which, to me at least, are way too similar to ignore given the circumstances. If there is in fact a roommate - and I am open to the possibility - then I am more than willing to stand corrected if it is indeed the case. Such a correction does not require your tone.

Also, not knowing that they're modded is besides the point, the point being denial.

Template is as such. And sign your posts. 17:43, September 18, 2010 (UTC) -->

So far, the most rational comment I have seen in this thread was: "This thread is beginning to cross the threshold into flame-land... Please, take it to the Flaming page and give us our first real reason for having a dedicated ass-ripping thread. :)GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 00:20, September 18, 2010 (UTC)" Regarding Orions, every Vicious I have found has had 1.4 rof and every Liquid 2.7 rof. Several found in solo games may be found on this page. Highest Vicious DMG is 1019, Highest Liquid is 932. And in regards to the continued flaming wars which seem to suddenly be pooping with with increasing frequency in everywhere except the designated thread, Dr. HAX has this to say:

That is all. 18:24, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Eh, isn't the highest Vicious only a 961? 1019 is with a perfect body5/mag5/barrel4 Liquid construct modded with Vicious. 18:39, September 18, 2010 (UTC)