User:Dr. Clayton Forrestor/archive/talk 12

another wiki
Please please please! For the love of all that is holy! seperate the BL1 and BL2 Wikis.

Thanks!

64.127.71.66 19:01, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

Banestrom
 * sorry bub. 19:32, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

Barbarians at the gates
Possible fresh blood incoming: http://www.reddit.com/r/Borderlands/comments/18moez/psa_the_borderlands_wiki_needs_you_also_ive_added/

I had nothing to do with this, but if we get new talent I will of course accept all credit for it. Dämmerung 17:33, February 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * You want to take all credits for it huh? So you think your name doesn't stick out on the recent activity page? ;) Let's agree to share the credits for it. ;) But seriously though, I hope incoming redditors will behave themselves and I hope they don't give you too much trouble. --CharredBrain (talk) 17:49, February 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * Nuts, busted. So much for "camouflage green."   Dämmerung 18:58, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

i am glad for the help. need some detail driven indivs. only one troll and not nec from reddit. probly not if CharB is example of users. so to hear about your nuts daemer. 19:23, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

Borderlands main talk page
Hi, I can't figure out how to put a notice at the top of the borderlands page, like the one you did:

It should say to think about creating a the forum before adding and sections may be archived or moved accordingly. It was a complete mess before so I archived some of it. Trig Anomaly (talk) 07:36, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

I Archived it a long time ago: [http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Borderlands_Wiki/Archive#Sections_to_be_cleaned.3F archive. ]I was just cleaning it up. Trig Anomaly (talk) 18:47, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * ah. good on ya then.  had me worried.  ill get on that notice.   06:18, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

hammer time
You offered to help, so I thank you. I am currenty looking for a Hammer Buster in Borderlands 2 (level 50 preferably). I have farmed for it in excess of 3000 times. I kid you not. Mcnally has continued to foil my attempts, and I regretably have given up. Therefore I returned here, to find some help, since my search on x box alone has failed. I would greatly appreciate it if you could help me out, for i really do hate that guy for not dropping it.
 * i suggest you try Forum:Muster XBox and Forum:Item trading XBox 360. also try to finish mcnally w/ a critical for best results.  still not guaranteed.   05:53, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

Fibber
Regarding your undo of 306073 -When do you consider the item to be "generated" - at quest turn in prompt, quest completion, or other? JMJimmy (talk) 20:02, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * an item is generated by gearbot just before the player sees it.  21:06, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * ( The Evil Dr. F's note - im willing to be wrong on this if you can show research into mission progress pre-loading parts.)

The Evie
Trying to get forum fanboys to explain anything is like pulling teeth
 * b/c as stated it looks like trollism.  19:33, March 8, 2013 (UTC)

Reverted... no explanation
Hello Dr. Clayton,

I made a significant improvement to the Message In A Bottle (Wurmwater) including a full detailed walkthrough and graphic showing the location only to have it completely reverted by Warblade with the only comment being "Restoring to last legitimate version. One update sentence worth salvaging." I'm new to a wiki, but I'm not sure why with no discussion a stub, turned into an easy to read walk through with map, would be unilaterally removed and restored to something containing almost no information.

As I don't know the processes involved in the administration of a wiki, I'm not sure what channels to follow. But seeing your welcome letter and the recommendation on the help page to contact an administrator, I thought I would bring the issue to you. Matthew Edmund (talk) 06:51, March 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * The revisions of your edits have been explained in more depth on the article's talk page. -- WarBlade (talk) 07:29, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

it would seem, you, mr edmund, are removing the infobox mission and adding a notes section with an empty bullet. try editing by section rather than the whole page or preview your edit so as to avoid removing content in place. dont forget to categorize your ulpoads please. 08:26, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

Reminder question
So, you left me a reminder to remember to categorize my uploads, but I only upload pictures very rarely. What'd you mean? Lavisdragoon (talk) 01:52, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * just add a valid category to them at the bottom of the page. you can find your files on your contribs page using "file" namespace.  default category for images is Images, no one can complain about that one.   02:03, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

Killing Vulcana
RE: Killing Vulcana
 * I did an experiment.

On the 2nd playthrough, at level 49 I was able to kill allof Vulcana's underlings wit turret, grenades, and a very fast machine gun with a huge magazine.
 * When it got to Vulcana, it was simply impossible to get her health below half.

It did not matter how much damage I poured into her.
 * I did this 3 times.

At level 50 was able to kill her after a decent fight.
 * It just seems like a limiting factor, so players, on playthrough 2, don't atempt General Knox with characters below Level 50.

This was not just a guess.

Stagesmith (talk) 04:43, March 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * did you try the other characters too or just roland? 07:05, March 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sounds like an interesting mechanic if true, but it really should go on the article talk page as a theory, so others might prove or disprove it. -- WarBlade (talk) 07:17, March 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * See Damage. If your character is too many levels below an opponent, the damage reduction effectively makes the opponent invulnerable.  A level 49 character has no business in PT2 Knoxx.   Dämmerung 20:04, March 18, 2013 (UTC)

pt2 knoxx boss should be just 1 level above character. hence my question on OPs talk re: 2.5  01:49, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

Could you help me with my LF norfleet page. Thanks

Thanks

Seraph Crystals
Hello, I have seen your video that is on this website on the, Seraph Crystals, and was wondering if you could help me with that, and if it isn't too much I wanted to know if you would help me level up my characters to level 61. ZxX9Jarrod2Xxz (talk) 11:10, April 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Seraph Crystals can be obtained from the Invincible raid bosses introduced in the DLCs. Seraph-rarity items can then be purchased from the Seraph Vendors located in each DLC hub.
 * Also, if you are short on level, experience points can be gained by completing missions and killing enemies. Gaining the required number of experience points will allow you to level up and take on even stronger enemies. This leveling feature of the game is also available in solo mode.
 * I trust that the above is sufficient help for you and your adventures in Pandora. Happy hunting. 12:26, April 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Dr. F is available on steam as indicated above. 12:43, April 10, 2013 (UTC)

I al ready know all about the Seraph Crystals, Invincible Raid Bosses, and killing enemies to gain EXP. Also, are you the one that posed this video,  If so I would like your help and need your help, and I appologize for miss reading the title of the video, my mind goes faster than my hands and eyes most of the time and thought it said something about getting unlimited Seraph Crystals. If is not your video, I am sorry for not knowing. ZxX9Jarrod2Xxz (talk) 15:20, April 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * As you may notice in the File history section of that page, the uploader of the YouTube video is in fact User:Thezeldafan911. As you may also notice in his HUD, he has employed gratuitous use of various cheats in his game (873 skill points, incalculable shield capacity and health, permanent on-trigger skill effects, overleveled to 100 for damage bonuses and handicaps, perfect-variant constructed slag ConCall etc.).
 * Said user's method of boosting his ego drop rate is to glitch Master Gee into repeatedly spawning and killing him with a modded arsenal, thus producing a constant supply of Seraph Crystals and the chance of legendary items. This is, of course, unnecessary a hasty method of shortening the laborious task of actually killing a raid boss.
 * For help to be rendered, one would require knowledge of your gaming platform and respective username, which you may wish to provide. What exactly do you require help with? 16:05, April 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * There is actually a deceptively simple way to hit level 61 and acquire all the legendary items. It involves killing enemies repeatedly. And doing missions, that too. But if said missions involve killing enemies, all the better, I say! 16:08, April 10, 2013 (UTC)

it would seem that video has been removed. if i remember correctly it involved and exploit that is no longer viable. the only way i know how to get orange items is in the leviathan's lair (aside from getting friends to dupe theirs that is). and that takes a tremendous amount of patience and perseverance. to answer your question directly, no. that was not my video. 16:12, April 10, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your help and I didn't really pay attention to the skill points and lvl he was at, I just missed read the name of the video.ZxX9Jarrod2Xxz (talk) 16:20, April 10, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Trivia
Thanks. VaultBoy Tom (Talk to me this way) 16:42, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

re: not trivia
It seems there are about five admins that are still active, and I'd like to ask, once I have enough edits, can I be promoted?

Sentry, goin' up!
 * that would depend heavily upon your popularity at the time you choose to run an rfa.  22:14, April 16, 2013 (UTC)

Mainspace images & classmods
Greetings, just a couple of things:

-First, I've split Class Mod article as discussed on talk page: Class Mod

-Second, I've copypasted a generic message asking for votes to all talk pages of the weapons where you reverted my image swap, but so far none of them have replies. I don't know if you are working on the new mainspace image policy or not but I've left a suggestion on my talk page. I'm not sure if you have read it or not, so for your convenience here is a copy:


 * Morning. If you don't mind, could you let me now when the new policy is available? thanks.


 * On the other hand, I would like to suggest some guidelines for the new policy. I think that waiting for administrators to do the swap of images is not effective and they should only take part in case of edit-wars. Here are my suggestions for the new policy:


 * Users could change directly mainspace images in the following objective cases. This is a ranking, so the first scenarios take priority. If both images are equal on the first point, then the second point is taken into consideration, and so on:


 * Language (this is an English wiki, so English cards should be top priority)
 * Resolution image, size, crispness and clear of view (no jagged edges, no blur...)
 * Item level met (no red cards)
 * Card text not covered by the gun (a lot of current infobox pictures have this problem)
 * Everything else not taken into consideration and image should be discussed.


 * All other options/differences (level, components, perspective..) are subjective preferences and the image swap should be discussed in the talk page. Even if the above objective options are met, if any wikia contributor doesn't agree with the swap (he or she puts the old weapon back or shows nonconformity anywhere), then the old image must be restored and the new image must be put as a candidate on the talk page for discussion of the community. It should be there for one week to give interested users time to vote.


 * What do you think of this? Any page where the community can discuss the new policy more properly? GryphusR (talk) 08:23, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

And that's it. Not trying to put pressure on the matter (just trying to be sure that the idea reaches you). In some pictures there isn't a great change (and instead of my pictures I've suggested in the corresponding talk pages pictures from other contributors taken from the variants page of similar quality) but others (ie Sponge, Blood of seraphs...) should be swapped asap. Regards GryphusR (talk) 15:46, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * i had read on your talk. still waiting for to create/start/propose the discussion.  17:13, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Seems like he's not going to start the discussion. What is the proper channel to start it myself? GryphusR (talk) 16:15, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

AoE grenade articles merge.
Hi, maybe the articles for the cloud grenades Tesla Grenade / Cloud Grenade should be merged into a single article called "Area of Effect" or Area of Effect (Grenade). AoE grenades are the only exception where each element has its own page (for example there isn't a page for fire MIRV and other for corrosive MIRV) and even if the effect of Tesla is slightly different to cloud and fire burst that can be covered on a single article.

The game makes no difference between them for counting towars the AoE Grenade challenge and the Payload (which determines grenade type) is the same for all. The only difference is the element accesory, and "Tesla" "Fire Burst" and "Cloud" are the respective nomenclature for shock, fire and acid, which means that the three are variants of the same AoE grenade type and not separate types as they are stated on the wiki right now.

Regards GryphusR (talk) 02:47, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Edit War - Troll
Please, take a look at this: http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Tunguska?action=history

I've tried to explain him in his talk page that we don't add comparisons of weapons skins from same manufacturer and rarity, but he just deleted my message from his talk page and continued with the edits. As I don't want to prolong the edit war further, I inform you of this. Sorry for the inconvenience. GryphusR (talk) 16:28, April 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * He also has wiped my vandalism report from the top of the page and added me to it http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Borderlands_Wiki:Vandalism_report?action=history He's also editing my vandal report, adding a letter to his name so it redirects to another user page. Obvious troll is obvious. GryphusR (talk) 16:53, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Position
I have asked for a review of my position as chatmod. Since there was not enough community response, I leave my positions of greeter, liaison and chatmod to your decision.subliminal 18:58, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * i have received no complaints from the community in disparagement of your performance as lead greeter(liaison) or chatmod. status remains unchanged.   07:22, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the timely decision. I cannot edit the teams page for reinstatement. P.S. I am glad that Lynne got recognized as Chief. 09:41, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

advertisement policy
I know that the community spoke on the subject of advertising on this wiki. Can you link me to that discussion? Perhaps the subject needs readdressed or Policy can be categorized officially. 09:36, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

no advertisement or linking to non free products and services. no ads for free stuff on article talk or articles (excepting related to blands (other wikis and such)). i thot it was in blocking policy but its not. i need to fix that. 12:29, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Ah, so I can report advertisement as vandalism? 12:31, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

You can report anything you want. Whether and how far any action is taken from said report will depend on admin discretion. 16:37, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Weapon Tweaking
I was wondering where I could find info on weapon tweaking through third party programs-Candc4 (talk)
 * as am i. maybe run a blog requesting suggestions and discussion?  ty4ask.   14:02, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Game Guides Display
Hello again, as you may or may not know recently Wikia has released a new version of our Game Guides application on both the Apple Store and the Google Play store. We are hoping to target our audiences even further and try to bring this app more to their attention. For this reason, we have created a template promoting our application that we would like to place on your site with your permission of course. The template can be seen here (it shows what it would look like on both a light themed and dark themed wiki). The template would live in the upper-right column of this wiki, right below the advertisement. Please get back to me if it's ok to go ahead and enable this on here. - Wagnike2 (talk) 14:26, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * i have no problem w/ staff adding things/features. thank for the heads up.  i think the dark one would look best.  up to yall tho.   14:33, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Unknown consequences
Well they bloody well did it... they gave me crat powers... Now I can ban all the users... if I had any 02:00, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

Moxxi is 'Mad' no more
I think it's probably past time for us to move the Mad Moxxi article to Moxxi as Borderlands 2 has made it clear that no one outside the DLC marketing department calls her 'Mad'. Since you were the one to protect the page away back during the BL1 lockdown, I thought I'd bring this point up to you directly. I don't think this would be contentious, but if you think this action warrants discussion, don't hesitate to tell me, and I can start something on the talk page for the article (although I can't find a move-suggest template for this wiki; do we have one?). Cheers jameslucas (" " / +) 14:28, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * quote from torgue, mr. no move suggest template. i should get fryguy to make one. moving pages is his speciallity. 21:09, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * My hat's off to you for finding an exception so quickly! I think the video makes my point anyway, though, since even as Mr Torgue says "MAAAAAD MOXXI," her name appears without the adjective and the mission is then turned-in to "Moxxi." Stack that on top of all the times her kids speak of her and the nearly universal dominance of the phrase 'Miss Moxxi' in the weapons names, and "Mad" is clearly an occasional nickname that any players starting with BL2 would never think to associate with her. jameslucas (" " / +) 21:21, May 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * There is a disambiguation page when searching for Moxxie. Plus the fact that everyone should get to know her a little better... In the argument of spreading information, the above argument contradicts itself. /no pun 07:27, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * If we follow that logic, we could justify moving Lilith to [The Firehawk]. There are any number of wrinkles we could iron into this wiki if we were trying to teach by idiosyncrasy, but we don't because the wiki's purpose is to be useful. If you pick up an Infinity, its card says "Infinity"; if you come to the wiki, you can read about it in an article titled "Infinity." jameslucas (" " / +) 13:06, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

as i recall she started out as mad moxxi. to remain true to blands viewers it probly needs to stay that way. plus the aforementioned disambig. if you think it need to be changed run a blog or forum and let me see what kind of support you draw. 14:02, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

Yep, take it to a blog page. Just be prepared, cause it will be an uphill battle. Aside from my failed logic (joke), the personality of Moxxi hasn't changed. But your opinion counts just as much as everyone elses. If you feel like others might see it your way, definately create a blog post. I am an advocate for change, maybe not this one though... so I wont chime in to your blog, if you create one. 18:03, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * I feel like before taking this public I'd have to do some fact checking that would involve playing through Underdome and Knoxx again (I don't remember 'Mad' being used in Knoxx but I don't trust my memory that well), so I'll have to save this until I have more time. Maybe if BL3 is released before that actually happens and it never once uses the word 'Mad' in front of Moxxi's name, you guys will come around. ;-) jameslucas (" " / +) 10:48, May 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * No need. The PC game files reveal most of what you need to know. dlc3_MainMissions.int in the English localisation directory has multiple references to Moxxi, none of which are "Mad". The mission turn-ins are Moxxi, and the Stain Removal side mission references unprefixed Moxxi as well. So there it is. You have case. Just put it to the horde and see how it plays out. -- WarBlade (talk) 12:34, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

cooldown
Hello, Dr. I am curious how cooldown,%'s work. For example, Gaige has 20% Cooler @ 60%, Uses a Mod with 39% coooldown and a relic with a 29% cooldown rate. How do these three sources effect each other Ripper756 (talk) 18:00, May 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * 60secs / (1+0.60+0.39+0.29) = 60secs / 2.28 = 26.3secs cooldown on Deathtrap
 * (Also, please put new posts under a new header for ease of reading. And there is no need for further signing-off once you insert tildes. I have since fixed both.) 18:43, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

fair question. is there a cooldown section on mechanics page(s)? 21:00, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

Claptrap Rebolution DLC
Hello Dr. F, I was just wondering why did you undid the story portion of the Claptrap Rebolution DLC. It wasn't incorrect. Thank you for your time. Spartan1204 (talk) 10:45, May 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * my edit summary explains why. it is moot as whether claptrap "decided" or angel zappped him after the destroyer. blake was sent not jack. jack was sent to explore hijacking eridian finds. you did not give any summary to indicate why you edited a page for a previous game. short answer - it was incorrect and you did not leave an edit summary. 20:03, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Dr. F, I am sorry for not leaving an edit summary, but I still do not understand why you removed the whole edit. Not every piece of information was incorrect. I got most of the information from the cutscene at the beginning of the Claptrap rebolution. In addition I believe Jack was Blake's boss, so it would make sense if Hyperion sent Jack to handle with the rebolution and then Jack got Blake to help him. Spartan1204 (talk) 03:31, May 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * Jack took over the helm of Hyperion before the Robolution. As mentioned, Jack was sent to explore Pandora's Eridium and later dispatched Blake to handle Claptrap's uprising. Which would explain why Blake is in Tartarus Station.
 * It was Jack's specific intention to trick the Vault Hunters into opening the vault in the first game, and a silly sequence of events somehow led to similar consequences in the second game - this may not fall perfectly in line with the introductory cutscene of the Robolution, but for the sake of standalone story arcs in the various DLC, please allow the scriptwriters some discretion in rejecting reality and substituting their own.
 * (Except for the details behind the Robolution, many of the BL1 plot's loose ends are tied up by the ECHO recorders in BL2, as per above.)  13:46, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

tx nags. 21:23, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

picture removal
errm... I got a question for you... I realize that wiki's are a lot of work but... if you are already there and the picture is uncategorized... Why wouldnt you just cat it, instead of remove it... I mean, if its an obvious weapon? 21:43, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * you are making a jest, yes? 00:13, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

every new user is granted a first warning on their userpage. which other rules do you propose that the wiki admins ignore, 'bot? trivia? vandalism?

00:16, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * you (iatbr) were not on break when this was decided. so im not going to splain again. 00:18, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

I am actually not kidding at all... I just see that removing the pic makes more work because then we would have to follow the rule of "no weapons without pics", leaving the page for more clean-up. IMO, just adding a cat to the pic is more productive and less work than removing the pic and subsequently removing the weapon. 00:24, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

NOTE: I really dont care, just an observation. 00:29, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Extra note: oops, it was on a talk page... my bad. 00:36, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * please learn to care.  00:44, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

contact
Hey,

I am a relatively new member to this wikia and wanted to say hello, since you seem to be kind of a big deal around here =P. I also wanted to ask a question but would rather ask it in a different, more private way if possible. Hope to hear from you soon.

LimblessBarrel (talk) 17:14, May 21, 2013 (UTC)LimblessBarrel
 * i am available at any of the addresses/services shown on my userpage. 22:08, May 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * i spoke briefly with someone on the wikia in regards to what i wanted to approach you about and I don't think it will go over too well. Rather than waste more of your time, I'll just wish you a good day.


 * LimblessBarrel (talk) 23:10, May 21, 2013 (UTC)LimblessBarrel

About the Wiki News pile-up
I have recently noticed that the main page has an exceptionally large news section. One-third of the news is from December and we are already in June. I am just curious as to when/how we may start to archive past wiki news, again. I hope I'm not being bothersome with something so trivial... Sakuretsu115 (talk) 19:09, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * there is a link to Past_Wiki_News at the bottom of the news feed. i dont think anyone would complain if you maoved moved everything b4 aptril 1st to that page.   23:40, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * im here to be bothered. dont worry about me being upset, im just drawn that way.

Re:alias
Uh...what? CrackLawliet (talk) 01:58, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * someone friended me on steam having a former alias of CrackLawliet. 02:00, June 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * OH. Yeah, sorry about that; should've run that by you first, huh? Sorry Dr. CrackLawliet (talk) 02:01, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

if thats you its no problem i just checked past alii. 05:08, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

mobile app
Hello,

I am interested in developing an application for mobile devices about Borderlands 2 maps. The idea is that not only can explore the map, but users can edit it, putting their own marks on the map representing locations of chests, bosses and other locations of interest. These locations would be shared between users online, building together a complete maps of the game.

A very similar application has been developed yet for the famous RPG game for PS3 and PC: DC Universe Online, with good acceptance by users who are already more than 600 in 34 different countries.

I would like to work with you on this new project, because i need images of the different maps in Pandora. If it is good, i will expand the details later.

I leave a link where you can see better the project scope. The base would be the same, changing the background maps and adapting to the needs of Borderlands 2:

http://www.pegastacus.com/guide.php

A greeting!

Pegastacus (talk) 11:30, June 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * "developing an application for mobile devices about Borderlands 2 maps"? Here you go.
 * "because i need images of the different maps in Pandora"? Here you go.
 * Alternatively, this wikia has Maps of the Borderlands too. 12:45, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

i think an app, mobile or otherwise, that is user interactable is a great idea. i should however comma point out that images on this wiki are the property of wikia and one would do well to obtain permission before using them even in a free app. that said, wikia is always looking to tie in w/ the mobile market so i think you will find them most approachable. 18:57, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Ok Dr.,

I am gonna ask wikia permission to use the maps, I have seen some with very good quality, for example the "Three Horns Divide" uploaded by JenHeartWikis but nexus arid section ie have no map available, I have to be sure that in the wikia are all maps.

I would contact someone that I could provide all the individual maps of all stages of the game, and i think that this is best place online to find them. In return, the app will link with borderlands wikia 2 as much as possible, include your logo, and a mention of course.

I want this to be a partnership, maybe could get another maps from internet or the game itself, but they probably will not be as good as I've seen here.

If you confirm me that there is someone who can provide me all maps, i start with the issue of permits and ensambling the app.

When I have a beta version, installable package will send to you for testing and evaluate. The maps will be editable, in spanish and english languages. There is an official app not free, 2$, doesn´t have nothing of this, i think ours will be better.

Thanks ;)
 * i can do you better than that. if you run a blog and a forum requesting maps from areas and/or specific areas i think this can be done in short order.  also pop in to !Live chat and see whos available there.   20:36, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

20% Cooler
Crack  errr infinity noticed the url of 20% Cooler is 20%25_Cooler. Just thought I would bug the heck out of you and let you know. 06:28, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Yet another policy
Please check on the layout proposal I have set up and add any input you wish. Thanks. 09:26, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

If your ears are ringing: There is a discussion that started here that wound up here. Please let either of us (or both) know if we are missing anything. 18:06, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * just let me know if/when something is decided and/or policy needs writing. 16:20, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

Respawning tags
When adding Respawning tags to enemies who respawn (i.e. Assassin Oney), should I phrase it as "Killable (Respawning)" or "Killable, Respawning"? KillarDeez (talk) 15:44, June 26, 2013 (UTC)KillarDeez
 * id prefer the parenthetic.  05:17, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Category Tag "Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep"
I'm just wondering if this category tag should be placed on enemies found in TTAoDK or only on items, (like weapons, relics, and shields). Thanks for your help in this matter. KillarDeez (talk) 18:09, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Cat tag should be on all new content introduced in said DLC. 19:46, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Would it be appropriate for a page like Butt Stallion, which has information regarding non-DLC content. KillarDeez (talk) 20:13, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

yes. b/c butt stallion moved from legend (story) to content in TTAoDK. ty4asking. 21:09, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

Wizard vs Sorcerer
I've noticed both names used on the wikia, with wizards on Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep (and Unique, though that was done by me) and Sorcerers on Special Weapon Effects (Borderlands 2). I'm just wondering which one is correct, or if it just doesn't matter. Thanks for your aid in this matter KillarDeez (talk) 23:16, July 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Wizards appear to be a catch-all title for this group of enemies. Sorcerers are a subtype of wizard. -- WarBlade (talk) 01:48, July 2, 2013 (UTC)

TVHM/UVHM Mission Rewards
I was wondering if an image is required as proof when adding mission rewards for TVHM or UVHM.

Apologies for asking so many question.

As always, thanks for your help. KillarDeez (talk) 01:30, July 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * No image required, but bear in mind that rewards can have a minimum to maximum range, so old entries should be preserved alongside the new additions if you have a different number than the one listed. -- WarBlade (talk) 01:48, July 2, 2013 (UTC)

questions are what im here for. the kids dont let me edit anymore. as you can see they rarely let me answer my questions. i watch over several wikis so this is a good thing (as warblade knows well). 04:47, July 2, 2013 (UTC)

Loot Chest
Thanks for the help with that lot, it should be relatively complete now. Good call on not buying one; only reason I got mine was to open it, analyse it, pack it up and sell it on for twice the price :P

And let's be honest, there are other ways of granting those guns to accounts anyway. I never understood the stigma surounding modding in this series. In most other games I've modded for, that's what keeps them alive. AHadley (talk) 23:05, July 2, 2013 (UTC) the mod haters come and go. mostly the hate is on right now b/c there isnt a well known tool like the first game had. the tools used recently have a reputation of fouling saves. earned or not, thats the rep.  03:19, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * thats what im here for. i really wanted DPLC to be worth more than it is.  badly.  ULCE had an art book, a (well made imo) hammerlock notebook, and a bobblehead.  not to mention a copy of the game, and sold for only 40usd more!

Lynchwood Bounty Board, Missions, and a sidenote
I have been working on the dead-end pages and the uncategorized pages, and I have come across one page in both sections. I haven't mentioned it previously because I figured it was going to be used later, but it is starting to be bothersome. The Lynchwood Bounty Board page has NOTHING on it, not even a stub tag. It also has no categories. All the Lynchwood missions (or at least most, the mission in which you battle Dukino's Mom appears to be abscent) can be found on the Lynchwood page.

There is also Lynchwood Missions, which is empty except for the stub tag, but is in the "Missions by location" category.

I'm just curious if anything was planned for these, or if they should just be marked for deletion.

On a sidenote, do you have any projects which I might be able to help with? I figure I should be done with the uncategorized pages fairly soon and was hoping there would be something other than the uncategorized photos to turn my attention towards (as that looks like it will be emmensly time consuming).

Thank you for your help, as always. 12:59, July 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * Regarding the blank bounty board page, have a look at the old Borderlands bounty board articles for inspiration. ;)
 * Lynchwood Missions is handled by Category:Lynchwood missions, so Lynchwood Missions can go, along with all the others.
 * Projects? You want work??? We have work. We have all kinds of work.
 * Another bounty board... of sorrow
 * Category:Article stubs
 * Category:Cleanup
 * And many more maintenance lists pointing to messes that seem to grow every day. -- WarBlade (talk) 13:12, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

ty 4 discussing these things publicly. that way no one can cry foul. see also Borderlands Wiki:Teams. 05:09, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Errm, that page is locked and cannot be added to... I have been trying to add my name as liaison... or did you mean for killa to join up on a team :p 08:18, July 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * looking for work.  22:01, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

teams
I am also a chat mod, although I really think the page should include the liaison team that was put together (although I am the only currently active member). These include airos, veg and me. Veg has the main template for himself because he was doing liaison work long before I came along. The /robot and /airos templates are for me and airos to use. Thanks 22:44, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

My bad... I was looking for a liaison section... ya, just adding (liaison) to veg and airos works great. 22:57, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Community Q&A
Hey there Doc!

I just wanted to catch your eye for a cool Q&A opportunity the fellow who did the music and sound design for the Tiny Tina DLC. It's hard to get this attention from people since it's not on the mainpage in anyway, so I thought you might be interested in promoting using Community Message. I figure someone must be interested in asking some questions, but maybe they didn't see it. Let me know if you have any questions!

Best, Jorge (profile)•(talk) 17:29, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * ok. lets just not have another of these please.   22:50, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

I am skinned
Ok, after gouging my eyes out with a code spoon... I am finally done with the character skin pages. I added as much info as I could while going along and did very little trivia clean-up. I also compiled the rarity across all pages using the best resources I have.

Should the rarity information be proven incorrect, it will have to be changed across all skin pages. There is also the maintenance required from the community because of the more complex code of the pages. BUT THEY LOOK GOOD... (worth it?)

Anyway, the policy is archived here. I don't care if it is printed as policy or not... maybe just a link, instead of whole new page? The only thing I care about is that the skin pages be maintained by the community for users that dont know how to add stuff, change the "id" codes when thing are added, or link the trivia to the picture. 20:52, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

dlc add on content
speaking of add-on content... the dlc, dlc1, dlc2, dlc3, and dlc4 redirect pages need to include BL2 as well as the original BL content. Thanks 17:17, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, nevermind... I found them, I'll see what I can do. 17:20, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, before proceeding any further... do you want disambiguation pages created for DLC searches? The redirects are not enough for both games. 17:47, July 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * This is actually something I've been chipping away at since early 2012 - it's among the things mentioned in my list of things to do down near the bottom of my user page. Many of the old DLC links have been updated over the past year (changed to the full title). Basically, mentions of (DLC3) etc. should be largely relegated to lists. Ideally, paragraphed links should be the full title in most cases. -- WarBlade (talk) 21:30, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

For your review..
Whenever you get a chance, could you look over the BL2 sliders? Any comments or suggestions are appreciated. Thanks. 02:51, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

New Category Syntax?
There needs to be a guide category... I understand that gameplay and help are the "catch all" for guides at this time but the guides need to be separated from, say, the New-U Station page. Which do you prefer, Guide or Guides? 17:35, July 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay... Some more explanation could be helpful on that subject. Can you give some examples on what subjects you envisage appearing under a "guide" category, and what kind of category structure and category names you're thinking of? -- WarBlade (talk) 20:12, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

guides, being subjective are limited to forums and blogs on this wiki. plural or singular would depend on this wiki's standard. unfortunately i dont know which that is off hand. im sure someone does. there does not, in fact,  need  to be a guide(s) category. if you would like one i suggest you blog or forum your proposal for support. 20:30, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

The pages Farming, Guide to backing up saves, Borderlands PC Tweaks, Borderlands 2 PC Tweaks, and Forum:Guide to making a custom signature are just off the top of my head. I also would like to see more pages like these and would like to make and clean up guide pages.

I believe this wiki should have as much information to pass on as possible. As far as category structure and category names, I was just thinking of a generic guides category. 00:21, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * all pages mentioned fall under category:help. if you feel there needs to be a category for guides run it up the flagpole and well see who salutes.   02:47, July 20, 2013 (UTC)