User talk:Dr. Clayton Forrestor




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"maybe not a whole planet . . .id settle for a forest moon . . . with ewoks to shoot (heh, heh)Dr. Clayton Forrestor 10:41, December 2, 2009 (UTC)" =Welcome= Hi, my screen name is Dr. Clayton Forrestor. you can call me Dr. F. i am a sysop (administrator) for this wikia. if i can be of service in any way please contact me. enjoy. -->

Minions of Dr. F
Darkseide

A LB gamer

The Chatting Sysops
DR. F is available for chat on aim/google user = DrCForrestor - on xfire = drclaytonforrestor and skype = The_Evil_Dr_F

is available as thedarkestmeepit on google

is available as Fenrakk101 on google
 * I prefer MSN over AIM =P 18:50, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

can be reached via email at fryguy42@gmail.com. Xfire and Steam chat services are also available.

=Glossary of (un)familiar terms= drop your term here and someone will define it.

shotty: shotgun

DPS: damage per second

proc: Proc is a common term used primarily in game programming to refer to an event - a "procedure" - triggered under particular circumstances.

stack: end result is additive (+150% critical damage from sniper rifle stacks with mordecai's +6% critical damage from deadly skill)

DOT: damage over time

area of effect: "splash damage" non-point focal damage over area

FPRPG: first person role playing game

Flinch: is when you shoot an enemy and they temporarily stop, like how shooting a charging Badass Psycho enough can make it stop for a moment.

Non-Trigger Damage: bullet and rocket damage only, not elemental (proc:see above) damage. directed damage not involving DOT or area of effect. this term was made up by a user for use on his/her forum and should in no way be considered a gaming term

Accuracy Recovery: this is the time it takes your sights to stop wavering and give you an _accurate_ sight picture.

construct: a weapon/item put together in WT so that it is legit however it has all parts geared for a purpose (damage, tech, ROF, recharge, regen, power)

WT: Willowtree

ROF: Rate of fire

namespace: user namespace

mainspace: main namespace

speedloader: the half/full moon clips depicted in the game, used to load revolver, shotgun and sniper cylinders.

clip: incorrectly used to replace magazine. unfortunately due to the ignorance rule it is more widely used and must be trained out of initiates into the military, arms and/or munitions industries and those choosing to speak coherently. (does gearbot actually use the words "clip size" for magazine size?)

The Fudd: the seeming dance performed by players sorting through craw or loot-n-the-box drops. slowly moving, weapon in hand, looking down or directly ahead. "be vewy kwyette, im hunting ___"

aggro: short for aggravate, is an internal measurement for how much of a threat the AI considers an individual player to be. The more aggro a player holds, the more highly that player will be prioritized for attacks and skill usage by the AI. Commonly misused instead of the term "pull" (i.e. aggro that enemy = pull that enemy).

kite: staying at a distance, using ranged attacks, and running whenever the enemy comes near. the player doing the kiting leads the enemy around.

= Saved Conversations =

DR.
A, Dr.F, are you a real Dr., or is that just your screen name?
 * i am in fact not a doctor of any kind. dr clayton forester was a character from war of the worlds and on mystery science theater 3000, a tv show on comedy central and the sci-fi channel. 17:47, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it's time you should see Dr. F about ENGORGE!! He'll prescribe to almost anyone. Daemmerung 18:37, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Signatures
Do only sysops,moderators or admins get unique custom signatures? ☻BLObOrt☻ 16:18, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

No, Any user can have a custom signature if they wish, there is a section on my talk page which tells you how, look for Claptraps post< 16:58, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

j-nox is correct. anyone can have a custom sig. make a page with your sig. then make a page refering to the first. enter the second page into your preferences pane for signature. it is preferable to have these pages under your user:namespace (such as user:blobort/sig & user:blobort/sig/prefs) 20:20, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Borderlands 2
*cough* This ignores the high likelihood of a "Borderlands 2 Wiki". -- WarBlade 07:42, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * aha! i have you at last!  borderlands 2 already defaults here!  ha ha, you fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
 * *cough* Highfive... anyone...?? :D 08:12, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Here comes the flood
Of new guys. All able men to the portside armaments! Batton down the article hatches! You called it though. ;)GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 18:29, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Is "plugging" acceptable?
Hello, Dr. F,

Prissybitch, here with a request. I trust your opinion and judgement. I've recently joined a PS3 gaming group/forum that caters to adult gamers looking for folks to coop with. So far I really enjoy the camaraderie of the group. When I first visited here I found that, sadly, there weren't many PS3 users here to converse with. I still love the wiki and visit it often for game reference.

I would like to drop a plug for the group in the Watercooler forum or even the PS3 trading forum. Would this be acceptable under wiki rules and etiquette? I just want to offer other PS3 users a place to find other PS3 users who still play the game and will be playing BL2.

Any advice you could offer in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Prissy:) 03:10, May 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * social groups and websites are not subject to the rules for commercial sites. any and all communities and groups for this, or any, game may be endorsed, shamelessly plugged and yes, even pimped.  very good question PB ty4askn.   04:50, May 26, 2012 (UTC) Blogs too. specially blogs.   blogs

Thanks for your support and prompt reply. Good day to ya! 11:43, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

=New Conversations=

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Videos
I'm going to say this with as much tact as I can: "WTF is this shit !?"
 * http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Toil_and_Trouble
 * http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Where_Angels_Fear_to_Tread_Part_2
 * http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/The_Once_and_Future_Slab
 * http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Wildlife_Preservation
 * http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/The_Talon_of_God

Since when are we IGN's personal video host? Where you aware about this? I'm not sure I can really communicate how much I despise videos on a wiki. They undermine the core "community" aspect of a wiki. They belong on talk, blog or user. NOT mainspace.

Anyways, I was going to remove them, but:
 * 1) They've been here since September 27th and no one has removed them yet.
 * 2) The person to have uploaded them is User:JAlbor, on the "Wikia Community Development Team".

Do you have any stance? happypal (talk &bull; contribs) 17:19, October 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * there is, unfortunately, a push for videos (yes, any videos) on wikia at the moment. recently, or while you were out, staff hardcoded "related videos" into the format.  i believe this did not get the desired response.  in order for it to seem as though many videos are linked i believe staff is attaching all "official" and corporate partner (IGN is GBX partner in Blands1) videos whether they are published or not.

you may, as an admin, Be Bold and take it upon yourself to move the vids. i dont think even the admins can actually delete wikia video library files. i cannot as i have agreed to go along w/ staff on this and several other projects which may or may not come to fruition.

however comma i must ask this as well. are you ok w/ the challenge walkthrough spam of videos on challenges pages? i cannot take a stand against one and support the other. likewise i do not think we can only suppress jorge's (IGN's) videos. my own opinion is videos may be presented in a blog or forum as visual aids and enjoy the freedom of expression each user is granted in those namespaces. narrated videos, imo, should be banned from the internet forever. that said simple gameplay walkthroughs have been used (1, ONE, per page) since 2009.
 * thank you for asking and allowing me to soapbox.  19:32, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

another wiki
Please please please! For the love of all that is holy! seperate the BL1 and BL2 Wikis.

Thanks!

64.127.71.66 19:01, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

Banestrom
 * sorry bub. 19:32, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

Interested in testing new forums?
Hi, I was curious if Borderlands would be interested in testing the new forums (details on it here). We are looking for a few more test wikis and would love to have you among them. Please let me know (and if I should post this somewhere else). Thanks!
 * tyvm ms manley however comma we have our hands full atm. the Q&A recently setup by staff did not actually include any As. the video feature jorge is sponsoring is meeting harsh resistance. and quite frankly, i think, a blog is a blog and a forum is a forum. i know wikia favours the blog format and if we are doing away w/ forums altogether it would be more honest to say it outright & up front. 21:46, October 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * ( The Evil Dr. F's Note - Sarah Manley is Wikia Staff)
 * Ok thanks for the quick response. What are the issues with video? Can I offer any help? Just let me know where to response to any questions. Thanks, Sarah (help forum | blog) 21:54, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

the feature is fine and dandy. the use of said feature leaves much desiring. so far i am the only contributor (and i am not that good). that said, any hype or staff input or even staff contributions would be welcome. tx again. 04:45, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * OK I asked our Community Development team to add some videos here. Let me know how it turns out. Thanks! --Sarah (help forum | blog) 16:57, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Note to our viewers @ home - Borderlands is looking for videos of shotguns for the current blog/show. See package for details.

About 0ne
The creator wasn't a troll, it was a large misunderstanding that happened in the chat, so I don't think he deserves any strikes, as he didn't even introduce the character in the chat. CrackLawliet (talk) 23:14, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * pretty sure the image was a Zer0 skin. strikes are only counted by me and i dont think i blocked him.   00:18, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

UotD
Haha, thanks for this :P Mad Crayolaz       00:43, October 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * yw. please keep up the good work.   00:59, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

To-do's?
Is there a specific place on the wiki where I can look for things to help with? I feel like there's probably plenty to be done, especially with the flood of BL2 information being added. How can I help? Drinfernoo (talk) 01:39, October 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * a very good question. i have been lax on updating the bounty board. ill get on that. its in topnav under community. 01:47, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

Borderlands Wiki:The Evil Dr. F's Bounty Board of Sorrow   hows that? 02:09, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

That helps :) I'll put some effort towards those missions when I have some free time. Drinfernoo (talk) 02:29, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

Also, are you on Steam? I would assume so, you know, because of that whole Steamworks thing :P Drinfernoo (talk) 02:33, October 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * yes. see above and userboxes on user page. 16:32, October 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah. I completely looked over the Seam userbox :P Drinfernoo (talk) 20:42, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

the wikia virus
Hey in response to your message, i'm not trolling. i initially found the exploit when i loaded up the page from a link on the Borderlands 2 Weapons page. My standard antivirus F-Secure then decided that the page was infected and mozilla froze saying it prevented a popup. I then scanned on a different computer with Norton and a open source scanner Clamwin. The popup that froze the page continually said something similar to ".PDF is not a file"

I also forgot to login so it's my ip that shows... XD

Daemonkiller117 (talk) 14:15, October 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * it would help me greatly if you could show me the edit. or at least the date it was made.  i tried checking every link and they seem valid.  did i miss one?  hypertext cannot comprise viruses.  it can link to virus files however.  the closest thing i see to .pdf (acrobat document) is .php which is similar enough to .html.  some wikia ads may have popups if clicked but thats not nec malware.  can you tell me what it is exactly you are scanning?  last time i used norton it did not scan text, been a while tho.  also i only checked the page you reported Special Weapon Effects Borderlands 2 and not the above Borderlands 2 Weapons.   16:32, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

both norton and F-secure have a realtime website scanning utility, and for clamwin i fed it the html. It might be just be my computer... It's beyond slow so that may have triggered the initial positive, and for the other two that computer is now bricked.

71.89.33.78 17:57, October 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * i suggest you reinstall operating system form manufacturer provided software hard copies. it is not that i do not believe you.  i can not believe you unless you give me an identifiable culprit or file name.  i submit to you that it may not be a wikia page causing your troubles.  try to identify your problem edit or page from a library or school computer.   00:26, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Fixed My Sig
Yeah, so i fixed my sig. The picture was getting annoying, so I removed it. Is it ok to put me on a team now? 00:45, October 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * well done and yes it is. which team(s) would you like to join.  once you join ill have the team leader(s) contact you re: tasking(s).  ive updated the job descriptions.   00:52, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Definitely Surgical Strike, and also Article Improvement.
 * category links for article improvement are in the job description on teams page. ill have ricey contact you for SSCC.   01:07, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

no constructive edits
Dr. F,

Some 5-year is screwing wtih your CPT Scarlet DLC wiki page. You can see the dick jokes in the history.

71.173.143.235 17:08, October 17, 2012 (UTC)Q
 * noted. ty.  Borderlands Wiki:Vandalism.  05:35, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, you left a message on my talk page saying I could ask you fro help. All my badass ranks,customisations and golden keys just dissapeared, do you know why or what I can do to get them back?

LouisWolf69 (talk) 13:17, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

The challenges remain completed but all the tokens are gone hey, I have E-mailed Gearbox Support and tweeted them as well as Randy Pitchford a few times but I havent gotten a reply yet.

LouisWolf69 (talk) 19:19, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

Chat Mod Team
Can you change my name to my sig on that team list? 20:16, October 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * D'oh!  20:20, October 18, 2012 (UTC) (edit - Fry's preview button might be broke but hes fast.)

Chat
Get on chat? I also have a question for you.

Guidelines Writeup
I have finished the writeup. Here you go, broskizzle. 15:45, October 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Poke? 15:45, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

poking will net you naught. that you are waiting is noted. 20:05, October 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I forgot that you get notices that someone types on your wall. Sorry :(
 * 20:20, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

apology unnec. just saying ill add chat policies when i get time. you might solicit input from other users and admins. 20:26, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Trying to get Fry to talk me, but yeah. He's been offline as of the last time I saw him. As for other users, I've been asking them to read and see if they agree. 20:28, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Whats up Doc
FYI I BORDERLANDS LEGENDS is a iOS game coming this october and I included it in the news stand. I hope to do more for this site as for I have put in 335 hours in on borderlands 2 :P

AJdaBoss91 (talk) 16:54, October 23, 2012 (UTC)AJdaBoss91
 * i assume from your statement w/o preamble that this has to w/ my rolling back or undoing an edit where iOS was added overwriting existing content or statement. operative word being overwtite.  please summarize your edits and cite sources and this can be avoided in future.   20:03, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Images
Are there any rules as to how to name images, like the way they must be categorized? --MLGisNot4Me talk 08:59, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * thank you for the question. i would prefer that images not be over written if in use on the wiki.  it is also common practice, when assembling a loot locker, to use username in image title.  file:AKK 500 Wicked Bitch_whashisname.png/.jpg   this can be seen most prominently in fry's and nagy's pages/collections.  this is not required but helps to prevent overwriting.  as item cards are not yet title named as seen in blands this has not become much of a problem.  also note that any image over ~ 800 pixels will be downsized by wikia.  i tend to resize images to ~ 600px, this is just my preference.  short answer to your question is no.  as long as w/i wikia terms of service you may name as desired.   19:39, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I havent done it to any page, but I was wondering if only moderators can put an article up for deletion?AlbinoSkag612 (talk) 21:24, October 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * any user may tag a page for deletion w/ .  if this tag is not getting the attention required please link page to your nearest admin (Fry).  tyvm4asking.   21:56, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

Patience is a virtue; but it can also hurtue
I'm surprised you let that weaksauce roksalt reference ride, is all. Blah. I'm bored. 18:37, October 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * its linked now. thats all im responsible for. id rather delete both for lack of links but no one reads policy so i must lead them by hand. )no one reads source notes anymore either( 18:49, October 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * ps - warblade is warden of trivia.


 * I read the source note. Granted I had marked that entire reference for deletion before I even hit the edit button, but I did read the source note.  18:53, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about edits
Yeah, I think I accidentally posted Employee 451 twice. Don't really know how I managed to do that, but still, sorry about that. I'll try to keep everything straight from now on. Mech-Romance (talk) 04:39, October 29, 2012 (UTC)Mech-Romance
 * np. i changed link in downloadable character ideas to the forum page.  also dont forget forum headers.  also you can user your own namespace for ideas, character builds and pretty much anything.  i.e. user:Mech-Romance/pagename   04:56, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Time To Play Opportunity
Hey Dr. Clayton!

I have several things to talk to you about, but first things first: Hey (Name),

Wikia is rolling out a fun new initiative for the holiday season called “Time to Play” where we ask our wikis what page they’re most proud of. We want to know which page you would want to have represent. There will be an official blog going out on Nov. 1 but we wanted to reach out to you early and see if you were interested in participating now.

If you wanted to participate, a “Time to Play” badge would go up on the right rail of the mainpage that links users to the page that you choose, while the footer will live on that same page that links to hub pages eg. http://www.wikia.com/Entertainment for Time to Play goodies. You can see how the badge looks by clicking here and how the footer will appear by clicking here.

We will feature on http://www.wikia.com/Wikia in one the three biggest spots that we reserved for “Time to Play” participants on a rotating basis, as well as a feature on the hubs.

Let me know if you have any questions, I hope you decide to participate! Best, Jorge (profile)•(talk) 00:02, October 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * ill give you a page by NOV 2nd. 03:23, October 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds good! Just let me know.

pictures
lol? uhh is that against the rules =s? i just screenshot the screen i play in, 1980x1080 or w/e, i felt adding pictures were more beneficial than not - and high quality pictures are nice XD Beesafree (talk) 01:38, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * it makes no sense b/c the wiki has to convert image to smaller size just to display it. but if thats what you kids want, you can have it.  it _will_ be deleted if you dont categorize it though.  hi-res or not.   03:07, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Problem with apostrophes on pages
Lately random apostrophes on pages have been turning into "&apos;". It doesn't usually affect pages but when it changes something in a link it messes it up. Any idea what's up with that? --M0xxy (talk) 02:00, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * some browsers (phone and otherwise) use html now w/ 30% more wikimedia! editors under the displayed text. this is also the case with the UC/default pictographic non-source editor.  its auto gen-ed.  try to only touch up the links and |texts. leave the markup in the new version if it doesnt change anything.  ty4asking.   02:40, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Renaming pages
How do you go about renaming pages so everything linking to it doens't get all messed up and stuff, and stuff?

For example The Bee is already correct.

But the sham is also actually called "The Sham" and the Transformer is "The Transformer", Hellfire is spelled HellFire with a capital F.

And the full name of the Tortoise is Fabled Tortoise, that's not just a random prefix that can change.

84.0.127.32 04:36, November 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * On the page you want to change (The actual page, not editing it) just click the down arrow next to edit. Under history should be a Rename function. If you don't see it then you mifht have to log in. M0xxy (talk) 05:06, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

non admins do not have the ability to suppress creation of a redirect so if renamed an in between link will forward old links to new location. admins will clean up later or someone can use "what links here" tool to change links on pages. if you are not able to rename a page w/o logging in hector a user to do so (or an admin). 10:04, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Messages via Xbox live.
I am never offended if you do not respond to a Message sent via Xbox live right away. Text messages are meant to be responded to more slowly since most people on XBL talk thru a party chat using mics.

I do understand that you are not on Xbox and use G f W L. Xbox Live only shows that you were on the "network" (Xbox live, G f W L, Phone app. or Xbox.com) a given amount of time prior or current and what game, if any you are/ were playing at the time.

Thank you for taking the time to respond in any event. 04:17, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Dynasty
Dynasty and me had a disagreement on a game mechanic. He said I was wrong and that his math on paper was right. Another user said me and another user were massive faggots and should suck his dick. I posted my math and he called me immature. I told him I was just showing my math. He said to drop it as it is spamming the chat room (The only members were me, Bees, Dynasty, and the spammer) and me and Bees were discussing the math before he joined). The other user called another user a faggot again and Dynasty did nothing. Dynasty then called me immature then told me to PM him where he could prove me wrong. I told him that Bees was also part of the conversation and that we couldn't all discuss it through PMs. He called me immature and again threatened to kick me. He then kicked me. I came back and said "I just posted my math, how am I being immature?" He then said he could kick people just because he was mad but he wouldn't. Then he banned me.

TL;DR version. I had a minor disagreement on a game mechanic. He called it spam (It was about Borderlands!), insulted me and threatened me. I did not say a single negative thing and I did not spam the chat, I only said a few things about a mechanic and he just kicked and banned. All the while someone is spamming the chat calling other users faggots and telling them to suck his dick numerous times. He's ignoring actual spam and insults and just banning who he disagrees with.

Check the chat history and ask Beesafree if you don't just take my word for it. M0xxy (talk) 00:59, November 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * You really don't grasp the reason why you were banned. I told you to stop discussing it as it was pointless.  Neither of us was getting each other, and it because useless to continue.  I told you to drop it, and you continued to question it.  I banned you for not being able to drop it.  Next time, just drop it.  01:26, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

as i said, saturated. 02:09, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Re-signing
Just made a couple posts on a talk page when I realized I wasn't signed in. Now, I did this once before on the Mass Effectt wikia and when I went back and re-signed my own posts I got a nice, thorough tounge lashing for signing my own damn posts because, apparently, when you are the only person on a static IP address you've had for 11 years, signing your own posts you just made 2 minutes ago with your correct sig is "vandalism." So...before I cause a problem here, does anyone mind if I sign those two posts of mine with my username rather than my logged-out static IP address?Chuckmoney (talk) 15:11, November 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * i do not have a problem w/ this as long as the OP never complains about post-jacking.  18:20, November 15, 2012 (UTC)   Dr. F  knows this user from another wiki.
 * On the note of signing out, for some reason, the Wikia will just randomly sign me out. This is a big problem, as it crashes my chat, happens while I am in the middle of editing, and other problems.  Do you have any idea why this is happening?  Also, just recently it was fixed, but before, the nav bar wasn't working, as when I moved the mouse over a diff tab, nothing would happen unless I clicked.  16:26, November 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * i can only assume it is a wikimedia adjustment. ive had my toolbar disappear on me on more than one occasion.  the auto signout is a thing that comes and goes so often i hardly notice anymore.  if you stick around you will get used to it.   18:20, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Speaking in code
"line item vetoes awaiting links" - what does that mean XD

do you need links for the items in question....? Beesafree (talk) 02:31, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

not speaking in code. policy states trivia not related to game requires link. there is even a notice box on the salvadore page.
 * _i_ am not needing links. the items are needing links to remain on page.
 * 03:05, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

maya's pagelock skill
Ahot (talk) 12:17, November 17, 2012 (UTC)hi, i want to add some quotes from maya, and i cant find the editing button. is that restricted or somehow? thank you for reading this.Ahot (talk) 12:17, November 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * her page is locked to new users due to heavy vandalism. say hi to the other admins and that should get you enough edits to not be new anymore.  ty4asking.   03:06, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Image deletions
For some reason, Fryguy42, has deleted an image I've uploaded for the Bowie Widow Maker twice now, with no notice as to why it was done. I added to the weapon variant chart because I've not seen a Widow Maker with a blade attachment and thought it was a unique enough weapon to share with the community. However if they have a problem with it, I wish they would communicate what the problem is so that it could be corrected instead of just delete out of hand. As it is, I'm tempted to just delete the contributions I've made since it doesn't seem to be wanted. I hate to bring it to you, but I remembered getting a note from your account when I made my first entry that if I had any problems, to contact you about it. If this is wrong, I apologize but I'm a bit frustrated with having what work I've done here being deleted with no notice as to why. Thank you for your attention.

Five0xpres (talk) 22:22, November 19, 2012 (UTC)five0xpres


 * i can field that question, mate. i'm simply going down the list deleting uncategorized images. nothing personal. on your talk page you will find a userbox reminding all users to categorize all images uploaded to the wiki. the 'box also contains a few handy links to useful pages, "how-to," what-to," etc. i will restore the images presently. hopefully you will have a chance soon to properly categorize them and avoid deletion again. cheers.

22:29, November 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * You most likely did not categorize the image either time. If you don't know how to do this, go to the page, and at the bottom, there is a green button that says [+] Add a category. Click that. Then type in Images of (blank) replacing (blank) with what the image falls under. EX: Weapons, Shields 22:31, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

sadly, due to the admins of this wiki neglecting the wiki and, among other things, playing Borderlands 2, the policies have been terribly lax. as admins and power users begin to return to editing duties policies will be enforced. please note that most policies include conditions under which users need not be warned or notified. also note notices posted to talk and user pages via auto-loader and/or userboxes. if you experience _any_ dificuly difficulty you are encouraged to continue editing as normal until the problem is sorted out. whether or not this affects anyone's emotional state please repost or re-edit until it is clear to you what it is you are doing against policy. or do as 5ohXpress has done and ask your local administrator. tyvm for asking. 22:49, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * oddly, the original file refused to cooperate. i retrieved a copy of the file from the cache and re-uploaded it here.

23:52, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm in process of deciding whether or not I want to keep making contributions to this wikia. If I decide to keep doing so, I'll add my weapon images back into the variant charts in the next day or so. If not, I guess they'll be deleted soon enough. Five0xpres (talk) 00:11, November 20, 2012 (UTC)five0xpres

your uploads will only be deleted if they are either not used (on a page, anywhere) or not categorized. as you might imagine having the admins categorize every image uploaded to the wiki would (and does) get old rather quickly. this led to putting it on the uploader which led to the userbox. this may seem new to new users of this wiki but it has been policy here for quite some time. you are welcome to edit and upload all you like provided you do just a little work in addition to. 00:52, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

I figured if they were unused, they would be deleted. I had gone through the variant charts I had added weapon images and info to and deleted my contributions while I debated my decision. However, someone has gone through and undone my deletions. I think I'm done with this website for awhile in any event, so I won't have to worry about uploading any new images. Thanks anyway for the info. Five0xpres (talk) 01:22, November 20, 2012 (UTC)five0xpres
 * yw. 02:19, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

for your review
Forum:Request_For_Adminship:Fryguy

cheers,

01:04, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Torgue splash transparent
i fancy myself the image editor, and if you like i could make that torgue splash a lot cleaner, it still has a lot of yellow in it, unless that was the desired effect as to make it look better on a black background. leave me a message if you want me to clean it up.

image in question: http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/File:TorgueCampaignTransp.png

my image with a white feathering: http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/File:Torgue_Splash.png

if not, no harm done. Beesafree (talk) 02:15, November 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * unless we get complaints id like to split the difference. you keep the main page and ill keep the add-ons page. 02:28, November 22, 2012 (UTC) i was trying to keep it dirty. first try had yellow everywhere. looked like a bad block print.


 * yeah thats fine, you kinda need the yellow to break up the black on black anyways Beesafree (talk) 02:38, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Fibber
Hi, I see that you have reverted my edit on the Fibber. I agree that you have made my description shorter, but the actual one may need a little tweak. I don't want to edit the page again prior asking, so you don't see it as "edit war".

-First, where the descriptions says " may cause bonus damage after ricochet.", "May cause" is not true, because it WILL cause bonus damage after ricochet. The 9 pellets have 100% chance and the pattern+spread is always the same (with the variant I have).

-Second, I've taken a screenshot of the pellets pattern and spread from different distances, and I think it could be interesting to add it to the page. I could also take a pic of the gun card prior selling it to a vendor (It's level 50, but the gun is sub-par anyway). You can find the picture here: http://i48.tinypic.com/20t1jwz.jpg

14:02, November 24, 2012 (UTC) (Lazy to recover pass or re-register ._.u)


 * ok
 * 1) im not saying you are wrong about the pattern and its uses. im saying the bullet points is not the place to discuss this.  as this concerns only one variant you might start a forum on uses of variants of the fibber.  probly see a lot of activity.   16:44, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

The Kitten article
Since you seem to have been unwise enough step into this whole mess, I thought I'd ask you to weigh in on the Kitten talk page. I've written a few things there concerning why this whole thing came about. Would like to have some admin input on this. -- Yukichigai (talk) 22:06, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

guides on wikia
Hi there. I've visited this wiki for quite some time and made a handful of minor edits, but I've been wanting to contribute on a larger scale. I bought the guide for Borderlands 2 (Brady Games) when the game first came out.

My questions regarding this are:


 * Is it okay to use the guide as a source of information?

I apologize if these are questions which I can find the answers for elsewhere. I saw "When in doubt, use the Talk page," so that's what I did (:
 * How closely can I translate information from the guide to the wiki?
 * Do I need to cite that information?  If so, are there guidelines for this somewhere?

Cheers   Doominglight (talk) 17:16, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Some of the information in the guides is off. If there's information on the wiki that is contradictory to the guide, the guide is likely wrong. Example: I believe the guide lists the shredifier as a potential drop from Bone Head 2.0 further research from the various communities online revealed that that's not the case.

tl;dr - Guides aren't infallible. 17:39, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

I would certainly keep that in mind. I was thinking more along the lines of filling in side mission details, such as locations and waypoints. I can assure you I would check the validity of the information before posting to make sure it was correct/still applied after patches.Doominglight (talk) 17:43, November 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * guides and other copyrighted material may not be published verbatim or reworded-in-entirety on wikia. we may cite guides as source(s) and paraphrase parts (with caution). copyrighted material may be removed w/o stated cause or notice.
 * short version: use caution.

17:54, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

That's what I figured, but I wanted to double check the Wiki's policy. Thanks, Doc.
 * yw.  18:02, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

tyvmdrf
Thanks for deleting everything i was working on, your the best.
 * you are quite welcome. anytime.   15:20, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Clay, could you teach me something?
Sorry if this question is out of place, but can you teach me how to make/use the Userboxes you have for another wiki? The ones that say "This user has finished X" or "has killed X". Thanks if you can! CrackLawliet (talk) 04:22, November 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * a fine question. first we need the userbox template Template:Userbox (import to the wiki if not present). then we need to do some playing w/ the variables. id use some of the examples in Userbox gallery and change them as needed. let me know if you hit any snags. 04:37, November 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * How do I import a template? CrackLawliet (talk) 20:40, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

easy way is to copy the content of the page here and paste to a new page of the same name there. may not look right until the server resets but template should be usable right away. 21:38, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

Quick question
If I give you guys a bot that automatically categorizes images that are put in variable tables without categorization would you quit deleting them? It seems to me removing this many images from one weapon alone because they're uncategorized isn't helping anything. 23:23, November 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * depends on the bot. show me where its been used and ill examine what it has done.  deleting images _isnt_ helping.  it is meant to get users to categorize their uploads and publish them vice just uploading images.   07:05, December 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's not being used anywhere. I'd throw it together. Wikia API is pretty straightforward MediaWiki API.


 * Tell me this much. I've been putting :Category:Images of Weapons and Category:Borderlands 2 on the weapons, and :Category:Images of Items on the others. Is that how they should be categorized?

Seems like the problem is that the user responsible for that edit has taken a penchant to doing it repeatedly. Maybe instead of deleting _all_ uncatted images we categorize the ones that actually have a link to a page? 07:27, December 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * @Ilvandel. No, those are incorrect. The existing categories were Category:Images of weapons and Category:Images of items. Note the casing. -- WarBlade (talk) 08:59, December 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ha that's so counter-intuitive. Stuff like Fire Rate isn't a proper noun but it's capitalized. I just figured the wiki followed the opposite of TOW's DON'T CAPITALIZE ANYTHING pragmatic and capitalized errything  09:32, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

fire rate is a page and infobox stat. please keep in mind that this is not the other wiki and you will be less frustrated. you could bot all pages in Images of Weapons into Images of weapons for starters. 17:46, December 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm waiting on a response to get access to Wikia's API. Staff's probably off until Monday. Moving one to the other would be painless, but only if it mattered. I'm not complaining, I don't use the categories at all. I'm also waiting on an infinity drop. I've hit 120 runs so far today. That guy is a douche. Botting categories is NBD, but moving categories around may upset some people. 01:36, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

other than redundant cats i agree. WarBlade is the category keeper of keys. check w/ him. also have to agree re: doc mercy. my brother has 3 (THREE!) (sub level 50) Infs. so that would account for yours and mine. 01:40, December 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * You don't know how to get to the Wikia API? http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Special:ApiExplorer 01:43, December 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * You have to get a key to actually use it. 01:48, December 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Rofls, I assumed it required staff acceptance since I can use it to completely demolish basicaly every wiki on wikia instantly, but I guess not. I had been trying to communicate with api@wikia.com Anyways I'll get started on the bot and let yall know when its ready. 01:50, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

Yes hello
Can you move Special:Contributions/Ilvandelbot to the bot user group so that I have access to the bot flag to keep R/C clean? 23:27, December 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * request forwarded to staff. 00:38, December 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Btw, here was my current ideology: It would take an image that has a what links here and, assuming it's in a variant chart, it would put the categories for that variant's page. For instance, it would take the uncategorized images on 12 Pounder/Variant Chart and add the categories from 12 Pounder, assuming i had them whitelisted (to avoid the transposition of things like Category:Article stubs) If the page has the category for one of the weapon classes, it would also add Images of weapons and Images of Items if it did not. That, or I could just do the first two like we talked about. However you want this to run. I couldn't care less. 01:06, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

by wiki definition an "object" is something "that may or may not be interacted with but cannot be picked up in-game." no objects would appear in a variants chart. these charts would include "Images of relics," "Images of shields," and "Images of grenade mods." also, i have been manually deleting uncategorized images for some time now. there only remain 100 - 125 left. these include mainly images of NPCs and area and will be catted or deleted in a day or so. better use for your 'bot may be to delete Special:UnusedFiles which contains 750+ unused images. (bots do not have delete priv's) cheers.

01:18, December 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * The general concept is to do things with a bot that you'd have to be doing manually so that hundreds of images aren't removed from variant charts just because they're uncategorized, but if y'all don't want to that's cool. 02:40, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

that part, i believe fry is saying, has already been done. you were going to show me how well your bot works by redoing all your "Images of Weapons" cats into "Images of weapons" cats. youve not been cleared to loose bot into wild yet. 21:31, December 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't worry. Aside from the basic Log In test, I've not done anything with it and won't until it's tested thoroughly. I was working out a comprehensive list of possible categories and I found Category:Disambiguations was trying to be put on them due to Rifle/Variant_Chart being in an improper place. If you want a minor edit test I'll correct my images with it sure. 22:05, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

done
Yes okay. Sorry my net went out yesterday just a bit after I'd say I'd do that so look over that and tell me what you'd change, what you'd do different and we'll work up from there. Also as a reminder, all of you may want to at least for now turn on bot edits in Special:RecentChanges as they're hidden by default. For the record this is totally different than what I planned on it doing. 23:27, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

ALSO FOR THE RECORD: I'm not throttling it forward. It's printing at me its changes and I've got a verification on it before it does each edit. 23:30, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

ALSO currently the category blacklist only has Category:Article stubs on it. It's pulling categories from the base page of the Variant Chart. I don't know if you guys want only Category:Images of grenade mods and not also Category:Grenades on there. 23:34, December 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * looks quite good actually. bot is overwriting images of weapons but so long as an image has _a_ category im ok w/ it.  fry might argue otherwise but requirement is >0 cats.   03:11, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * What happened was this

my @weapons = ( 'Repeater Pistols',  'Revolvers',  'Rocket Launchers',  'Sniper Rifles',  'Shotguns',  'Combat Rifles', );
 * I left out Submachine Guns. It's since been added. If it matches any of those categories, it adds Images of weapons. Also IMO if you're going to have something automated, there's no reason not to do as much as possible. I could have in two lines had the entire uncategorized image page added with Category:Images, but that would just be a joke. 03:50, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Alpha Test Invitation
Hey there Dr. Forrestor,

So Wikia is going to be holding some tests next week for an App we are working on and wanted to invite a select group of admins from some wiki communities that might be interested. To participate, however, you must own or have access to an iPad and a copy of Call of Duty: Black Ops 2. Of course this is, 100%, completely optional - so no worries if you would rather abstain or do not own the game and/or an iPad.

If you qualify and you are interested, visit this page (http://www.wikia.com/Video_Games/Lizzunchbox) and sign-up using the google doc form. Note: This form won't be live until Monday @ 10:00am PST. Let me know if you have any questions!

Best, Jorge (profile)•(talk) 00:39, December 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * i do, in fact, own one of each of those. however comma i am participating in firefall beta, mechwarrior online beta, and neglecting one or two others. i do not feel i would have time to do any testing.  out of curiosity is this a tie in w/ wikia game guides app?  ty for inviting me.
 * please note that anyone reading this who meets requirements (wiki sysop not being one of them) is free to contact lizzunchbox on their own behalf.
 * 01:39, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

addendum: jorge- there is no link to googledocs nor signup form on w:c:video_games/lizzunchbox. neither is there anything regarding ipad or BOps2. possibly the wrong link was copy/pasted? 01:54, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * ( The Evil Dr. F's note - as of 11dec12 the page is now designed for this purpose.)

variant images
how do u link new images to new weapons added to weapon variant charts?

you could just do it for me see, "striker (borderlands 2) variant chart"

also i accidently added the picture twice so i need to delete one of them but im unsure how
 * ill give it a shot. see edit history to review my steps.   19:00, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hammerlock Weapon Leak
Wasn't sure what to do with this, so here you go. http://www.examiner.com/article/borderlands-2-sir-hammerlock-dlc-weapons-and-gadgets-leak  17:56, December 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * rex is interesting. as is the first unique e-tech.  i think we can wait for users to gather our own examples.  that said you might want to add the link to article under spoiler heading.   22:47, December 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Dahlminator - First real unique e-tech. Not sure what chu mean.

all right. i forgot that one. 00:25, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

More Hammerlock stuff
I did a little data mining trip through the localization files that came with the compatibility patch for the Hammerlock DLC. I found quite a few interesting things relating to raid bosses, which I've posted on my user page. Dunno what should be done with the info, but there it is. -- Yukichigai (talk) 08:09, December 19, 2012 (UTC)