User:KillarDeez/TalkArchive1

Archive from the beginning of my time on the wiki through 2013.

Welcome
Welcome to ! Thanks for your edit to the Unique page. We hope you will continue to be a regular contributor, and will help us improve the wiki!

Please leave a message on my talk page if you need help with anything! I'll be happy to help. Dr. Clayton Forrestor (talk) 15:04, June 26, 2013 (UTC)
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Hey
Hey dilweed. It's Moze. This is my wikia account. Lemme know if you need any data. The bespectacled Drake 06:47, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Signature reference
Nice work on your sig, but your signature is taking up HUGE amounts of space in the code of the page. I am sure you did not know about the policy (This section in a nutshell: Any signatures with more than 100 characters and/or images must be templated.). I have put your signature in your sig page and referenced it with your reference page.

All you have to do now is go to your Special:Preferences page and replace any code you have in the custom signature section with:

Your sig will work fine that way, and you can change your reference page page to a alternate signature page at any time. Let me know if you have any problems/questions, and thanks. 14:47, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

P.S. you also need to create and copy/paste the same sig and sig ref pages on any wiki you use a signature on or else you will get nonsense as your sig. Just letting you know. 15:01, July 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * My apologies and thanks, Robot. 16:01, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I have a question... your (any questions) link doesnt work. I tried a few things that shouldnt really matter but I cant see your special preference page. I need to make sure what you have in that page. If you copied the above code verbatim, let me know and try this:

and see if your sig links correctly (you can try the above sig of yours to check). We will get to the bottom of this. 23:13, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

OMG LOL, nevermind... I totally forgot that a link to the same page makes a bold highlight of the link instead of linking to the same page... disregard above nonsense. 23:31, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

no wrap
I put in nowrap code to your signature, you may not like it that way so just UNDO or delete it from your sig page if you dont want it. 23:41, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * ty both for sorting that. 00:05, July 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * Am I correct in assuming that the nowrap just makes my sig on the next line?
 * Also, apologies that it needed to be sorted in the first place. 03:21, July 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * EDIT: I saw your edit summary. Thank you for all the work you've done to help me, I have taken the nowrap off though, as it was forcing my sig down a line and breaking number lists (I noticed it on the variant chart limitation proposal). If needed I can now put it back, since I saw how you did it. Thanks again!
 * Necessary weird chat smiley -> ^_^   03:32, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

Ya, I figured it would be more bothersome that it was worth. For some reason it seems to extend to the date stamp and would be fine if it didn't. Most of the work I did was cause I was being dumb LOL, its been a while since working on sig's. But it is all no problem. 04:55, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

categorize
O wow thanks... I was completely tired last night... I had been working for hours on that page and wanted to finish before I went to bed. Thanks for reminding me. I actually dont know the specific category but will look at what the other skins are under. I might not get them all before work, so thanks for being willing to clean up after me. 17:36, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

Looks like category skins will work... maya has both skins and maya images as does gaige. Salvador only has skins and I didnt check the others... I am not sure how the crat/sysops (dr.f) feels about over categorizing. I personally like as many as possible so specific searches can be done (but I am a crat on a card game wiki so its a bit different)... sheesh, since this project I havent even edited over there, I should make time for it. 17:53, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

sig
cool new sig and you forget to sign? LOL better hurry up and correct that before someone slaps a very uncool {unsigned} tag on it. 23:04, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

._. whoops *flails about wildly before fixing* 23:22, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Check this out
Well you have been a consistent contributor and nearing your 1000th edit (congrats when you get there). I would like you to check this out. Any input would be appreciated. 19:09, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Liaison query
Thanks for your concern in helping users.

I can offer you a position on the liaison team, if that is up your ally.

A liaison is someone who helps users with wiki problems. If you dont know the answer yourself, you should contact (alert) someone who does.

A liaison also nudges users into making better edits, and cleans up edits after users who wont/cant do so.

A liaison is also (automatically) a greeter to new users.

If you would like to know more, or are interested, just let me know. 06:27, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

You use your own discretion of when to greet people and when you think you may help people out. You also stand up for the rights of Users, big and small. There is no true "power" hierarchy where anyone can edit, its just all opinions and the true "power" of a wiki is public support so any one user can implement total change, using the proper channels.

You become an advocate of informing users how to use their power. You also help users edit directly (a bit of clean up). This is the tricky part... If you see the intent of a user that tries to add something but gets reverted, you can add it for them in a proper manner (good edits vs bad edits with good intentions). Anytime that you do this, it opens up an opportunity to let the user know what happened on their talk page.

You will get templates to help you let the user know who you are. These are my templates: You may use your templates whenever you feel explanation or circumstance should include them. Just get a picture you want and I can make them for you, or you can make them yourself (if you feel up to it).

Liaison is not officially recognized by wikia (as a position) but this wiki embraces the work a liaison does. You should know all policies of the wiki. The greeter/liaison policy gives some guidelines for your particular position.

I know its a ton to take in, just go one step at a time and ask me anything you want. Also get a pic for your templates (unless you want to use your profile pic). 18:45, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

Your templates
I replied on my talk page cause its easier. How do you like the following?

I just used some colors like you have in your profile pic. You should change the colors, a color mixer will help. You can also change the text to fit your style more.

Just edit in source mode and don't be afraid to mess with it (preview is also your friend). I put some notes in so you can see what color does what.

When you get them how you want them, let me know and I will template them for you. You always leave a hand typed message with them and your normal sig.

P.S. you change pic size, or anything you like... its your templates. 09:05, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, your good to go with your templates. You just type and  in the source. There will be a drop down menu when you do and you can just select the appropriate one. They will look just like this: You may change them directly at Template:Greeter/killa and Template:Liaison/killa but will not see a change with preview (template catche is slow catching up). 05:56, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

A Suggestion
ive got a little suggestion, well, more like 2.

1st ) on your Profile, i would suggest not saying "My builds are located >>here<<" linking to a page with other peoples builds. it makes it look like you're trying to steal the credit.

2nd ) when you go to complile other peoples builds on one page, you should ask if they are ok with you putting them there. i say this because you put my Gaige build on said page and didn't ask whether i was ok with it or not.

ADennehey (talk) 12:58, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

The Build
i dont have any problem with you displaying my build (all it does is give it more publicity), i just figured it would be good to ask first. and about what you said in your message, the pic is on my build page.

i would also suggest putting a link to the build page under the pics, so that if anyone wants more details on it, they can click the link and see the full description.

forgot the sig... ADennehey (talk) 17:04, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

Greeter Templates
Why not have the templates next to each other instead of on top of each other? You aren't effectively using the space, so it looks bulky. 18:40, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

The templates are for greeting and liaison work. They have a

code so that the talk page they are used on is not unformated due to errant pictures/userboxes interfering with section headings. I will correct killa's profile by putting the userboxes in directly (the only way to do it). He can undo if he doesnt like it. 19:48, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

He likes it. 04:20, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Re: The Build
yea, i forgot there was an out-dated version. if you could, i would prefer the newer one (the one that has the point in discord). and if you could mark the other one for me, i would appreciate it. and thanks for adding the link.

ADennehey (talk) 18:50, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

New Guide page and Category
I would like your opinion on the final analysis of this proposal. Thanks. 03:05, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Signature test
Here's hoping this works. Thanks again The bespectacled drake 06:19, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yo
Why do I need to post here? 17:42, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

I wanted to see if it would say "Added photo:" to my talk page when you signed here. Just wanted to make sure i hadn't messed up the code somewhere. :P 17:58, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Thats not true... he just wants peeps to post on his talk page as an excuse to leave balance pics all over the recent wiki activity page until the wiki catche catches up. just kidding 09:54, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Oh god, I've been found out! 15:23, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

hail
Taking it to the talk page is fine, for the most part. Remember that you must assume good faith and the User posted information that we must assume was edited in good faith.

What I am saying is that, alternatively, you could just let the information sit (wiki isnt going anywhere). You can then take it to the talk page (on the users behalf) if someone else didnt believe the user and reverted the edit.

What you did was fine, as a user that didnt believe it. As a greeter/liaison it may be better to distance yourself a bit so that your not creating content how you see it but as a go between between users who see things differently. Thats a decision that you need to come to yourself, though... I am just pointing out your options.

Admins and crats are supposed to keep that distance, as official positions of stewards to the community. We are more in the grey area, still being users (as are chat mods). Obviously, no curtain covers everyone and every situation. Just letting you know about the distance thing as something to think about. 11:13, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

That is up to you to decide... on a daily basis, in fact. You will probably find a "balance" in both destruction and construction. 08:26, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

"Images of weapons" vs. "Images of Weapons" categories
After reading your user page & following some links, I noticed that there are two "Images of weapons" categories, one with a capital "W" & one without. Seeing as "Images of Weapons" redirects to "Images of weapons," I figure the latter is the correct category. =P Anyways, if there isn't an easy way to change the category for the "Weapons" images, I'd be more than willing to go through & fix them individually. Personally, I like doing cleaning edits like that (& especially cleaning bulky code resulting from the use of the Visual wiki editor)  =)

Canti-sama(talk) 13:06, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Regarding Butt Stallion
It definitely should be added, but I'm not sure if you're asking if I should do it or asking for permission? InfinitysCross (talk) 03:23, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

I have changed the note to reflect trivia and wiki policy. 10:51, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

P.S. I have also opened the Butt Stallion talk page. Be sure to read InfinityCross talk page to see subtle side of liaison work (its a beautiful thing). 11:30, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Template Extended
I notice you've been using the delete reason field in the delete templates - thanks for that. There is also a field for a time stamp, which saves admins the trouble of ducking into a page history to figure out when the file was tagged.

Usage: Five tildes drops a time stamp, similar to the four tilde user name plus time stamp, but without the user name. -- WarBlade (talk) 11:37, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

Ubox templates
It is advisable to steal userboxes off of this perpetrator of userbox addiction. He is beyond reasoning and we need to intervene with his Ubox addiction. Just don't let him draw you in on it all (he can be very persuasive). We must stop this Ubox non-sense once and for all. 09:21, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

File Categories
Do you even know what an image is or why do you keep adding the Krieg quote files to an image category?

Tastymeatball (talk) 14:37, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

Why will be no category added if there exist no one? I think categories make no sense when files in there that have nothing todo with the category.

Tastymeatball (talk) 15:20, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * hes adding categories so i dont delete your files for not having a category cupcake. your english seems lacking so we will get you a category very soon.  be patient.   21:10, October 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * I've uploaded some audio from BL1. I used "Borderlands Mission Audio". FYI. I too am unsure how to categorize right now. happypal (talk &bull; contribs) 21:15, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * EDIT: Maybe I should use plain old "Audio Files" ? happypal (talk &bull; contribs) 21:15, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Category:Audio Files. Note caps. 21:30, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

UBX's
It has come to my attention that you may need help with UBX's. If you have any questions regaurding them, please feel free to contact my talk page. I will respond as soon as I am able.

You may also copy and change any boxes you see from my profile page. Just use source mode while in the edit screen, then copy and paste them to your page without publishing on my page. 23:14, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

IATBR means well and is most likely trying to offer help before it is needed. If you have a version of MS paint or similar program, you can down load the picture in question to your computer and crop out some of the unneeded area of the pic and then reupload the new version to use in the UBX. Just make sure to rename and recatigorize  the new version. If you are unable to do this yourself, just ask and I will see what I can do. 04:04, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, I am not sure why he thinks you need help either. Your Boxes look fine to me code wise. The only thing that bothers me ( this is just a personal preference) is the gaps between the pics and borders of some of them. Again, with some tweaks or simple choice of a different sized pic, that issue can be fixed, but is not required.

Its all good. I am not uptight and try to give everyone the benefit of a doubt at first (with a few exceptions,( dont ask :P), not that you need it. The registered Users are here to help the wiki and share in the game we love ( at least i am).

Thanks. I am quite proud of my UBX's. I am not an expert on wiki code or UBX code by any stretch of the imagination but have spent many hours making and tweaking my UBX's. Feel free to ask me anything, Wiki or UBX related. I will try to answer them as soon as i can, since I am usually only on 1 or 2 times a week and then usually just to scan for anything out of the ordinary. I have some links on my page under the "Helpful links" section for wiki color codes and a color mixer if you need it.

Welcome to the community and keep up the good work. Any help is always appreciated. 05:23, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

"IATBR means well"

No I mean to take over the wiki by influence (both perceived and misunderstood), one user at a time. evil laughter 06:12, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Either way...... :P I made a few generic character boxes for your consideration. They are located on Killa's UBX page. What we need are images of the Intro's of the DLC other than just Torgue's. I am not able to make these shots or I would. -- 04:24, October 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * PS: Feel free to make changes or additions if you like. ( colors or links. ETC. ) Veggienatersml.png 04:33, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

I am in the same boat. None of the digial cam shots i have tried to take, come out well. Yes there are a lot of images but as you say, not really any i feel comfortable using. I can probably crop a few existing images to make them usable, but there is not a single Pirates Booty intro that i can use or even crop to make usable. If you can find one or download/ have someone download one from somewhere and give me the file name, i will see what i can do. -- 05:23, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

Good find on the Scarlet pics. I didnt see those. They should work. I will put a few things together in the next few days after taking the other pics i saw and cropping them ( including the Torgue pic that is too long ).

Your idea for the other boxes is good, though may I suggest you make them just about defeating the Raid/ End boss's. Defeating the Bosses infers that the DLC was completed and is in keeping with other BL 1 type UBX's. Though if you really want them to say completed the DLC, you can make a few and see what happens. 21:35, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

I was just going to link the userbox gallery for you in case you were unaware, but when i looked there were already UBX's for all but Krieg. Guess we can submit the new versions along with the others we create to see if they would be better suited for the Gallery. You can see the "Public Boxes" and there styles from BL 1. I never cared for the "public"  Original Vault Hunter UBX's. That is why i started making my own.

We can make whatever we want and submit them for community approval. The number per DLC is whatever we make. It is simlpy making a box for the boss in question. Again, if you would like to see some boxes that say something refering to completing the DLC, go ahead and make them. If nothing else, they could be added to your own profile page as Custom boxes if you like them enough. 22:47, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

I have created some DLC ubx's which can be seen here. I pretty much took yours and tweaked them, adding new pics, colors, ETC. Let me know what you think. -- 04:48, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

I have put down a short list in the sandbox. The list will expand and get specific when they start being crossed off.

I have recruited Raz via steam to help as well. I will help also. The problem is that everyone is so busy right now, but it doesn't matter... The wiki isn't going anywhere. 16:18, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

RE: My UBX's
You May make public and Template any boxes from either my sandbox or User page you wish. I made them to suit me, but have also given permission on my Profile page to anyone that wants to copy them. Imitation is the best form of Flattery after all :)  03:25, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Tildes
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No but really, thanks for the help on the slag page, i really appreciate it. Here are a few more

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Well that certainly clears things up. Thank you. I thought I was doing something wrong, timestamp-wise, and I didn't know what it was. But that little quip on your page, "That means you ____", Very clever. But thank you very much.Vlad The Implier (talk) 14:31, October 17, 2013 (UTC)Vlad The Implier

About shields
You left a message on my wall inquiring about shields? I was going to leave a lengthy explanation, but all the info you need is on the article really: Shields. In terms of "Shield Delay" specifically, it's very easy: Delay is *not* affected by the shield's level, so a level 1 shield with the same parts as a level 69 shield will have the same delay.

To get the exact delay, you can either open you debug console, or apply simple math: base delay is 7 seconds for any and all shields, regardless of level and uniqueness. From there, you need apply the part bonuses using Borderlands "inverse opposite" formula. happypal (talk &bull; contribs) 06:37, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

Custom Signature
I would highly appreciate it if you would show me how to create one, it would be ever so thoughtful of you.Vlad The Implier (talk) 23:39, October 29, 2013 (UTC)

Image policy update
I have made a forum to combine all the current events. Please add any policy that you have concern with and vote. 02:02, November 16, 2013 (UTC)