User talk:Dr. Clayton Forrestor




 * exerpt from forum re:dlc

"maybe not a whole planet . . .id settle for a forest moon . . . with ewoks to shoot (heh, heh)Dr. Clayton Forrestor 10:41, December 2, 2009 (UTC)" =Welcome= Hi, my screen name is Dr. Clayton Forrestor. you can call me Dr. F. i am a sysop (administrator) for this wikia. if i can be of service in any way please contact me. enjoy.

Minions of Dr. F
Darkseide

The Chatting Sysops
DR. F is available for chat on aim/google user = DrCForrestor - on xfire = drclaytonforrestor and skype = The_Evil_Dr_F

is available as thedarkestmeepit on google

is available as Fenrakk101 on google
 * I prefer MSN over AIM =P 18:50, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

=Glossary of (un)familiar terms= drop your term here and someone will define it.

shotty: shotgun

DPS: damage per second

proc: Proc is a common term used primarily in game programming to refer to an event - a "procedure" - triggered under particular circumstances.

stack: end result is additive (+150% critical damage from sniper rifle stacks with mordecai's +6% critical damage from deadly skill)

RB: Right Bumper

DOT: damage over time

area of effect: "splash damage" non-point focal damage over area

FPRPG: first person role playing game

Flinch: is when you shoot an enemy and they temporarily stop, like how shooting a charging Badass Psycho enough can make it stop for a moment.

Non-Trigger Damage: bullet and rocket damage only, not elemental (proc:see above) damage. directed damage not involving DOT or area of effect.

Accuracy Recovery: this is the time it takes your sights to stop wavering and give you an _accurate_ sight picture.

construct: a weapon/item put together in WT so that it is legit however it has all parts geared for a purpose (damage, tech, ROF, recharge, regen, power)

namespace: user namespace

mainspace: main namespace

speedloader: the half/full moon clips depicted in the game, used to load revolver, shotgun and sniper cylinders.

The Fudd: the seeming dance performed by players sorting through craw or loot-n-the-box drops. slowly moving, weapon in hand, looking down or directly ahead. "be vewy kwyette, im hunting ___"

aggro: short for aggravate, is an internal measurement for how much of a threat the AI considers an individual player to be. The more aggro a player holds, the more highly that player will be prioritized for attacks and skill usage by the AI. Commonly misused instead of the term "pull" (i.e. aggro that enemy = pull that enemy).

=Conversations=

DR.
A, Dr.F, are you a real Dr., or is that just your screen name?
 * i am in fact not a doctor of any kind. dr clayton forester was a character from war of the worlds and on mystery science theater 3000, a tv show on comedy central and the sci-fi channel. 17:47, February 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Dr F you just sent me a message, i cannot sign up for an account, i use my work computer and they block the hell out of the things we can do, so in advance i am sorry if i messed up something, i am well behaved so you should not have any problems, and if i posted this in the wrong spot i am very sorry thank you XBOX GT SinsterNobody PS i am about to leave work so i wont have access for long, if you need to let me know anything
 * Dr F you just sent me a message, i cannot sign up for an account, i use my work computer and they block the hell out of the things we can do, so in advance i am sorry if i messed up something, i am well behaved so you should not have any problems, and if i posted this in the wrong spot i am very sorry thank you XBOX GT SinsterNobody PS i am about to leave work so i wont have access for long, if you need to let me know anything

doh! hope i didnt set off any firewall alarms;0) just wanted to know why you could not get an account.  "the boss is watching" is the best one i can think of.   Dr. F

Signatures
Do only sysops,moderators or admins get unique custom signatures? ☻BLObOrt☻ 16:18, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

No, Any user can have a custom signature if they wish, there is a section on my talk page which tells you how, look for Claptraps post< 16:58, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

j-nox is correct. anyone can have a custom sig. make a page with your sig. then make a page refering to the first. enter the second page into your preferences pane for signature. it is preferable to have these pages under your user:namespace (such as user:blobort/sig & user:blobort/sig/prefs)  20:20, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Just a little help with mine a min, i think i'm getting there just need a push. IDave Ja Vu
 * been there. done that.   07:35, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re: migration :common
Why list it common if it's name is in blue? Fen
 * it _could_ be green or purple. its variable, this would avoid color confusion. or thats the idea anyway. -dr. f

I see, its for guns with multiple possible rarities in the wild. What if "(Common)" then linked to an article describing that, so any visitor that isn't sure what it meant could easily find out. And then all the "(Orange)"'s could be changed to "(Rare)" or "(Legendary)". Just thinking out loud. Thanks. --31stCenturyMatt 12:41, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * while your thinking why not add some o' that to page? 14:12, July 10, 2010 (UTC) my thinking is explain it where the link leads. editing that page will not affect the categorization.

Hmmm ... what improvement does it provide to change from "White/Green/Blue/Purple" to "Common"? What's the goal? -- MeMadeIt 17:12, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * intended goal is relief of perceived color requirements for (multicolourarity) items. your example of White/Green/Blue/Purple yields Category:White/Green/Blue/Purple which just gets silly.  the rarity color is still available for personal pages as i will soon show.  possibly only for those pages if this is followed by 3.1kmatt's idea.   02:22, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Common

Sounds like a good idea, could add some more order - perhaps the category could state that they are, of course, common, and can drop from bandits, lance, etc or something of that nature. -- 23:36, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

rakk question
In the in game loading screen it says there is a type of rakk called "fledgling rakk" I think there is another one that doesn't show up either. Were these just removed from the game? Helpme19 02:20, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * a very good question. look for fledgling rakk around fyrestone PT1 and i will look as well.  some content did not make the final cut, notice your proficiency lowers the level of weapons once equipped.   02:23, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Just want to say thanks
You and everyone else who have taken so much time to make this what it is. I hope they put you in borderlands 2 pref as villian so we can all shoot you :p

Big hugs. big kate

X-mass 20:10, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * ty kate. oh and moo hoo ha ha, ill make it myself if i can figure out the editor. - Chemicalweapon.png The Evil Dr. F

Item Trading Bitch Fest
Think setting up a disclaimer discouraging mod requests, or maybe a separate trading forum for mods might help reduce the ragey conflicts around here? WhackyGordon 20:19, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

ty for calling me out on this issue WhackG. _i_ do not want to discourage mod requests because: _i_ do not want to open a new forum because: i say _i_ because this is only my opinion. you are welcome to broach the subject with the other sysops, warblade and claptrap are available. 20:46, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) it gives modders something social to do
 * 2) modded content is only disallowed in the mainspace (main namespace) of the wiki
 * 3) it gives the opportunity for the community to decline such requests (unlikely, but its there)
 * 1) _i_ want to keep the forums neat
 * 2) putting up an artificial wall between opposing sides is futile when each can still troll the other sides forums
 * 3) ragers _will_ rage even if its about how DLC4 should have had a better name.

Thanks, that answers my question quite nicely. I just wish people would relax and be constructive more.. WhackyGordon 21:03, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Uberorb's needs to be The Destroyer!
I started making his splash screen by modifying Sledge's Splash Screen (changing background to toxic lime colors, modifying Sledges mask to have this picture instead of mouth, etc. ). If you can find me a Destroyer's Splash Screen (NOT screenshots), I will manage to make it as you wanted/suggested. Unless you make/find very very HQ screenshot of Destroyer, in some... nice pose, so I can "cartoonify" it and put on Predefined Splash Screen Background (c). Next time; please use discussion page, as I patrol recent changes every 20 mins, I would see that, thank you! Approved by 12:09, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * do as you like. i got the whole 'uberorb as in eye ' so therefore the destroyer' thing out of my system with the Sysorb image.  are you copyrighting your background process or the term Predefined Splash Screen Background?  just curious.   13:48, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Bountiful Board
Sounds like a good idea, a place for the stuff that needs doing on the wiki. I'll keep an eye on it and try to help where I can! -- 20:20, August 29, 2010 (UTC) =New Conversations=

File uploads are disabled on this wiki
Just got that message while trying to upload and add new pictures to some of my pages, is this just server bug? Is this temporary or permanent, and why is it disblad!? 18:26, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

The main wiki is doing some sort of update. a message popped up about it when I first opened the wiki this morning. You should be able to upload pictures in a couple of hours.

New Wiki News
Hey there Mr. CF. I had a quick observation/question/quandry that has been nagging at me all day. The newest wiki news on BL announces that the GOTY version is set to to be out soon. In the bundle is BL, fold-out maps, and all FOUR DLCs? Is this a typo of some kind, or will the Hyperion expansion release with the version? Thanks for your help ahead of time. Majin Odin 23:36, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

thank you for asking MO. Dr. F has been awaiting this announcement since it started looking like dlc4 would be the last. dlc4 will be ~$10 in sept for those who have the game (and, i assume, dlc3). for those who dont mind waiting the all-in-one GOTY ed will be released in october (followed a week later by the inevitable torrent which will allow everyone in the world to play for free). the GOTY ed will be for new purchasers (purchasers with new girl/boyfriends), collectors, a schmucks like Dr. F who just have to have such things. 00:08, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

erp, what is this?
"chaos." troll or pre-1.30 material? 01:54, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * that is a name hack that is likely lvl61 & equipped with stocklike characteristics or prefpatch mod w/ name hack. Mr. Zaph knows how to do this (naming anyway) if youd like to ask. 02:04, September 1, 2010 (UTC) unless there is a chaos title/prefix unknown to me

the op states as such: "Bloody Unforgiven with the material changed to the unused "Chaos" material." dated march of this year. however, unless all of the techies missed something as big as a whole new material, it is, most likely, a creative haxx. go ahead and beat yourself soundly about the head with a blunt object and forget everything about this conversation. thanks. :) 02:13, September 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * There is a chaos material, but only accessible pre-1.3.0 I believe, which is probably the case since the gun is lv48. 04:10, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Few weeks ago I did a research on how to make (post 1.30 patch) guns with materials such as chaos, chrome_red, red_black, chameleon, black_tan, etc... And (similar to what Nagy said above) they are only "visible" in game prior to the 1.30 patch (I said visible because 1.30+ Game does not delete them upon loading character, they are there, but they aren't usable and they can't be seen in inventory, but they do take up space in it). And, as per gd_weap_shared_materialparts, there IS prefix for chaos material:

[Material.chaos WeaponPartDefinition]

PartName="Chaos"

So, it's not "name hack", but that  is  a modded gun. P.S: Chaos material adds additional shots fired, while sacrificing accuracy. Approved by 11:04, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * ty. i never got further than red_black and chameleon myself. you are limited to how many words with "your" method of renaming? 11:14, September 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. I rename weapons by changing .dll, .upk & .int files, so, I'm not limited to anything (except size of the Title Bar on Itemcard, as some longer Titles do not appear due to Itemcard's Title Bar size). Although, I am not completely able to "custom name" my guns, as I can't remove or modify mag/stock numbers (i.e.  300  in the AX 300  Pearl Aries title), weapons like "Blue Rose" & "UO-13 Uberob's Monster" use lowest possible stock and mag as they don't give any numbers to the title (depends on type of weapon, as some weapons have higher grade stocks and mags that do not add any numbers to the title).Approved by 11:28, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

again, nicely done. it would seem a lot of work and worth the effort. for you listeners at home the weapons will only show mod/hax title when viewer has changed .dll, .upk, and .int files to match each weapon so named. is that not so zaph? 11:50, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

That is correct Doctor, so if you have "HX550 Desert Wildcat" and you change parts of those .dll/.upk/.int files from "HX" to "WTF" and from "Wildcat" to "Sneaky Kitty", your weapon's name will be changed to "WTF550 Desert Sneaky Kitty".

Note:
 * This is only client-wide, so, if you play online, other people will  still see  that weapon as default weapon name (i.e. HX550 Desert Wildcat).
 * Weapon Titles changed will apply to every weapon with that name (i.e. if you changed "Wildcat" to "Kitty", all Wildcats in your game will be named Kitty).
 * If not done properly, you might experience game crashes and/or Save File corruptions!
 *  Do not edit .dll/.upk/.int files on your own, and even if you try to edit/modify them, remember: you are doing that on your own risk, none of this Wikia's Personnel are responsible for what you did with your game files.

Thank you for understanding this message. Approved by 12:32, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

orion mechanics
S&S Orion/Mechanics. Workable? 05:18, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * yes. i like that youve added accessories. 05:32, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Bring out the JCBs.
I've started digging through the Helpdesk forum to mark old stuff for archival. Maybe an idea to update the bounty board, in the interest of avoiding edit conflicts? (or just to ask someone else to do the Watercooler forum) 15:31, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'm on it, Watercooler is mine! 16:45, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

What's with all the reposts?
What's with all the reposts and "Candidates for Deletion"?

I understand that Bukkithead and Dr Zaph have been given this task but, seriously, are you going to repost 1,000 ... 10,000 ... 100,000 threads just to ask if it's okay to delete them?

GEEZ!

Surely there's an intelligent way to determine if an old thread is just chit-chat or contains information worth retaining.

Or please give us an option to mark all this nonsense as "READ" so I don't have to bother opening them to see if there is any REAL content worth my time!

Can't wait to see the reposts of the reposts asking if it's okay to delete the asking of if it's okay to delete.

-- MeMadeIt 16:37, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

He he, sorry for "spam" MeMadeIt, there will be no "reposts of the reposts asking if it's okay to delete the asking of if it's okay to delete", we are marking for deletion/archive so Dr. F/Admins can delete/archive asap, so we are "cleaning the way" before real thing comes.

Approved by 16:42, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

P.S: If you don't like so much "spam" in your Home Page, take a Wiki Break, go have a drink, play some BDL's, update your Userpages, and return in couple of hours, Thank You!

MMI you have my sincerest apologies. The Evil Dr. F neglected to idiot (no offense) proof the mission on the bounty board and failed to make allowances for the zealot factor. additionally this likely affects few people other than ourselves and 3.1kMatt, as no one else was around for those discussions or they have quit wikia (at least for the interim). again, i _am_ sorry to have caused you this trouble, it has however, allowed me to crosscheck bounty board efficacy. 00:00, September 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry for that, honestly, it won't happen again; I was too fast & inadvertent in putting &  on pages. For the  templated pages, many pages where I placed it on are (imo) long forgotten and/or already answered questions, or questions on which mainspace can give answers now, and they take too much (imo, again) place on Forum, feel free to do with them whatever you want. Obviously I was wrong person for that Bounty Board's Mission, sorry again, and, in addition, I will take a Wiki Break for a few days/weeks (not coming here, and not editing at all), and will come back when the Bounty Board Mission's Smoke settles.  13:40, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

zaph? Zaph! ok buddy, breathe. breathe deeply. take it easy now. fast wasnt the issue. the issue was my poor choice of wording the actions required. i dont know where all the {delete}s came from and i have to admit i did not ask anyone not to add them. what was truly unacceptable was the number of {delete}s without a reason. some had reasons in the summary but that is in history and would have to have been reverted if i had not asked for this. you will allow that some were in fact deleted. as for rushing, it took you three tries to get through the post above. archiving is a process by which old data is preserved. deleting as intimated by the notice atop this page removes a page and it's history, including all edit counts. yes, most questions have been answered but in reading these threads did you not get a feel for when the questions first arose and became answered? or were you contemptuous of their antiquated ignorance? it was only months ago. some of those threads were about starting pages on this wiki _before_ the game was released! well i enjoyed going through all the {delete}s and i look forward to going through the {archive}s threads as well. you are welcome to join us if you would like. just remember {archive|reason} {delete|reason}. take your time a read a few, you might be surprised. time we have, space we have, integrity we have precious little of. 14:29, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Dr. F. Sorry I was of little help yesterday. I was at the fair for most of the day, but I'll start archiving some of the pages. I'm 99% sure that I know how to archive them just by looking at one of yours as an example.

All it is is changing * Index > -- > Pagename * into * Index > archive > Pagename * correct? If I am wrong please correct me, as staying up past midnight is not my strong suit (my thinking just plummets).


 * ah, the fair! no rush orb. im glad your taking time for real world events. yes skim page for current usefulness, if none change header to archive and remove {archive|reason}/{delete|reason}, please summarize with archiving so the rss monitors dont feel the need to investigate. if it looks pertinent to current events in your opinion add a comment and remove template leaving header in place. no need to rush as long as we get this done before the dlc surge. i was worried, youve been bird-dogging the wiki for a while and then . . . "anybody seen the Sysorb?" 15:03, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Bounty Board Job 5
Done Helpdesk. Zaph said he'd do the other one, so I guess that's me out. 21:22, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Also, I'm having quite a chuckle at the amount of people posting on these ancient threads once they have been archived. :B 14:10, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * if it comes up on the ticker and people find it timely then that is another reason the migration was useful. i added a parting shot to a great many threads just to get the last (evil) word in.  when these subjects come up again (and they will) we can say see xxxx in the archives or use search next time because they are still there.   06:50, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

What the f...
There is something really wonky going on with the picture uploader. I uploaded File:Talktotannis.png the first time (1) but forgot to edit out the framerate. So I did that and tried uploading the clean version, but the picture (2) still showed the framerate in the main as well as in the small thumbs in file history.

Then I renamed the file on my computer assuming it's a cache problem and tried again. The framerate still persisted on the current version (3) but now the file history thumb of the intermediate 2 shows no framerate. Reverting to 2 (4) now shows both intermediates 2 and 3 as having no framerate, but itself still does. Reverting to 3 (5) shows 2 and 3 and 4 as having no framerate.

Need a bit of help with this before I start pulling my hair out. 10:10, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * mark file for delete and use a new name for the one you want to use. otherwise we have to wait for the server cache to reset. ive done this before as long as you know the one you want is the last its the one posted. 10:40, September 3, 2010 (UTC) indeed they all look the same here.

ty. marked. 10:46, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

you were the evil DR F. and i need something evil
So i was wondering how nasty modded a modder can make an orion, i would love to get a custom build sick orion, can you fill me in to the extent of evil this gun can be modded to, like an orion anarchy, or orion that has the same effect as a skullmasher, let me know of the possiblites. xbox GT Sinisternobody64.202.61.10 08:43, September 4, 2010 (UTC) gd_itemgrades.Weapons.ItemGrade_Weapon_SemiAutoSniperRifle gd_manufacturers.Manufacturers.SandSMunitions gd_weap_sniper_rifle_semiauto.A_Weapon.WeaponType_sniper_rifle_semiauto gd_weap_sniper_rifle_semiauto.Body.body5 gd_weap_sniper_rifle.Grip.grip2 gd_weap_sniper_rifle_semiauto.mag.mag5 gd_weap_sniper_rifle.Barrel.barrel4 gd_weap_sniper_rifle.Sight.sight2 gd_weap_sniper_rifle.Stock.stock4 None gd_weap_sniper_rifle_semiauto.acc.acc3_SandS_Orion_Shock gd_weap_shared_materialparts.ManufacturerMaterials.Material_SandS_3 gd_weap_patrol_smg.Prefix.Prefix_Barrel3_Twisted gd_weap_combat_shotgun.Title.Title_Projectiles1_Shredder 1 5 0 63

thank you for the code of death
hey it's sinister thank you very much, now i must just find a 360 willowtree user, i seen twisted and shredder in the code, i know it will be a truly evil gun, built by an evil man, for an evil purpose, thank you once again, PS sorry i commented on that page for the achrives, i just felt bad for the guy i had a bitch of a time finding an ogre as well. XBOX GT Sinisternobody64.202.61.10 08:40, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * try or .  failing that you can ask the  Sysorb .  no apology necessary, i have decided not to lock the archives.  the threads can be edited, bumped, vandalised, folded, spindled and desecrated, they just wont go to the top of the watercooler/help/item trading lists.

Thanks :D
Thanks for leaving that link there for me, I was just about to add it in and I got an Edit Conflict, and so I looked at the page. Sure 'nuff, you took care of it :D AtlasSoldier

Halp, pls
How do you insert a link to something. The Gearbox forums are going batty over speculation about the new DLC coming this Tuesday, and I'd like to make a page but it's not classy without a link to the source. Thanks.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 23:16, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

internal = linlkname, external = [address] page should be a subpage of yours unless its a forum, or use dlc4. unless you are sure it wont get moved. 00:01, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hey thanks. I was just going to do a watercooler page. Maybe I'll just use the talk page for DLC4.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 00:56, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Pointless Nitpicking
Hey Dr. F, I was scrolling through your page and checking out PT 2.5 boss weapons, when I noticed you left out The Meat Grinder. Nothing major, just kinda being a dick. and also noticing things. Toodles! Moloko Symboro 13:22, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

re: Jaynis Kobb
You have a good point there, Dr. F. Seeing as Jaynis needs to die as part of PT 2's plot, it seems impossible to get a 2.5 version. I did manage to get a level 48 version though, through some trickery on my part, and it may have been a glitch, for all I know. I splitscreened with a friend of mine, both of us on PT 2, but he was farther along the plot than I was. We killed the Vault boss together, and it seemed to trigger the game wide levelup of enemies and loot in my game, despite my inability to fulfill most matters of plot. When I killed Jaynis myself, he dropped a level 48 Meat Grinder. I'll have to check and see if I didn't sell it already, and if I did, I'll try to implement again for the sake of screenshots, all for the glory of the wiki ;-) Moloko Symboro 22:31, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * BZ.  22:38, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Helping with editing?
Hi, just wondering if I could get a hand with editing on the character build page. Just kinda confused with how to alphabetize and such.

Thanks!

SlipperyWhenDry 01:06, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * builds @ borderlands go under your user namespace if not on your userpage. i took the liberty of moving your build to User:SlipperyWhenDry/All-Round_Brick.  thank you and enjoy the wiki.   07:05, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Not around as much
Hi Dr. F. I (unfortunately) have to return to school, so I won't be as much help during the day. Just thought I'd give you a heads up since you seem to be on here all the time.
 * this will not be a problem. schoolwork before wiki and dont stay up just to edit. if you get time check your email for your watched pages and scan the vandals and candeletes and candarchives (links on my talk page ^). checkout recent established policies linked under help in sidebar. 19:07, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Same, what Orb ♣ said above, applies for me too (school...), so I won't be In-game and on Wikia much, but will try to cope with shortage of my free time and remain active contributor to this Wikia (and some other site's/wikia's that I regulary visit/contribute to). 20:21, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Signature policy
I assume you made a mistake there?? xD ...or was that on purpose?? :3 However, I changed that. For further notes; please don't lead uneducated people to my sig explaining to them that if they edit User:Mr. Zaph/sig they will make custom sig. xD Thank you! Approved by 20:49, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: FFS... good job fooling me on the one Doc... xD You realy are an evil genius, aren't you?? :3 Lol... ... Forgot about that one...  At least, I had a good laguh! hehe :D Approved by 20:51, September 7, 2010 (UTC) Fooled by The Evil Dr. F

:(
school already? {sniff} they grow up so fast!

this mailbox thumb is the cleverest hack i've seen on this wiki yet. kudos to you, sir.

21:24, September 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Once upon a time there was a game called Guild Wars... and there was one Hero amongst others who was wise enough to be called PhD in many scientific departments (mainly gunmaking, farming, modding and some other...)... that Hero was (not the one you might think of)... well... me (oh wow, who would guess xD), and he used to say: "Growing old is compulsary. Growing up is optional!" Approved by 21:41, September 7, 2010 (UTC) And yes, 2 best games ever are Guild Wars and Borderlands!!! ;)


 * If it had been me the quote would be, "Adulthood is merely a sneaky disguise." And why speak of Guild Wars in the past tense? Guild Wars is forever! :D -- WarBlade 05:32, September 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Second. Guild Wars FTW Moloko Symboro 10:43, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

does not wish to have to block users for neglecting schoolwork. recommendations to orb and fen apply to all users k-12. please edit wisely. Do Not edit and drive! do not edit @ work unless you are sure you can get away with it or can get reception in the last stall of the 'ladies'. Do not, for the love of all you hold dear, do not edit this or any wiki while your SO is speaking to you, this practice is just too dangerous for words. remember kids (say it with me boys and girls) "don't try this at home!" (ty)  10:07, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply to your question on Talk:Game of the Year, and this reply were made using my HTC Desire while I'm on my Biology class.... uh oh... schhh, here comes the professor, I better turn my smartphone off... 10:12, September 8, 2010 (UTC) (it wont happen again Doc... I promise...)

Platforms and stuff
I don't play BL multi-player often but I am curious if this is a cross platform game or do ps3, x-box, and pc users just play on their own platforms? I use a pc and yesterday I played a short time with some others and when I left the game I had about 2 or 3 new unfinished quests. I was using a level 61 charactor and the areas they were for we never went to. Been through the game several times with all the charactors except Brick and this is a first for me. Do you think it was a deliberate thing or just something that can happen sometimes?Rainyday999 05:45, September 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Multi-player Borderlands is insular. The different platforms don't co-op. As for the missions, you will have acquired missions that the game host had active. This isn't a deliberate thing on the part of the host (if that's what you meant) - the game is scripted to operate that way. It can create some problems, such as when mid-level Psychos clamber out from under T.K's house because an early level character has accidentally picked up "Is T.K. OK?" -- WarBlade 06:05, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

each platform has its own network interface for multiplayer. there are one or two missions (insides inside, and return to tannis) which are left over code in the game and cannot be completed legitimately. they are mere nuisances. other missions would be side quests not taken on your last go. does this answer your question Rd9recurring? 09:51, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Template question.
I recently created my own version of the Weapon box start/row/end templates, because I wanted basically the same box style, as seen on this page, but without the Image section.

Now, I've added a few more sections to my versions, Bank Box Start and Bank Box Row, but I want to change the size of the font in certain sections, for example, in the "Notes" area, I want to make the text I place in the section smaller, so I can (probably) stack the stats, as opposed to listing them with commas in between each stat.

As well, I was thinking of just decreasing the font size in every section of the box, so that the box doesn't stretch the page out when you view my bank page. Do you know how to do this? If so, please let me know, it'd be greatly appreciated. Thanks! AtlasSoldier 19:14, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * add buggrit to element notes (10 last i looked) of row template or add manually every time you get to notes section.  note - you might not want to use 50pt font ;)   19:35, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * | i believe

I'll test the span style thing out. I went and left a message on Uberfuzzy's talk page @ Central Wikia, I've heard he's pretty good with this stuff, so if the span style thing doesn't work, I guess I'll just play the waiting game until he responds. Thanks Dr. F! :D AtlasSoldier 19:42, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Whoops, seems I forgot to do the Captcha on Uberfuzzy's page because I had external links, so it looks like I didn't leave him a message. Regardless, I figured it out. The way you put above didn't work, but with some toying around, this did:
 * Now to go ahead and edit the sections of my box and adjust some font sizes. Thanks again! AtlasSoldier 19:46, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Now to go ahead and edit the sections of my box and adjust some font sizes. Thanks again! AtlasSoldier 19:46, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

inside/outside upsidedown sideways try em all one of em should work. dont forget the kids @ central like to lurk on IRC. no portal on this wiki but several @ central. remind me to portalize if you dont do so yourself. 19:49, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Portal? What? AtlasSoldier 19:57, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * You just became 1000x more awesome to me, just for knowing about Metalocalypse...doodily doo. AtlasSoldier 20:04, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * fryguy42 turned me on to it. id given up on tv.   20:48, September 8, 2010 (UTC)  ps IRC link now on category:help

platforms and stuff
Thanks for the quick reply Dr. It did answer my questions. thanks again66.189.205.81 21:22, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

What to do with this...
Hey Dr. F. I was wondering what should be done with This Article, seeing as it should be in the forums instead of an article. Is the proper procedure to add a to the page, or to copy and paste the page to a new forum topic, inform the OP, and delete the article page? I'm just not entirely sure and want to know for future references. Thanks -

Orb, your going to want to do the first and third steps you listed. in place of the second you want to move the page to forum:looking~ w/o a redirect because you are telling the OP of move, delete is not required but tagging (as was done) informs OP of incorrect placement. summation:move article to forum no redirect; remove edit tag add forumheader; note to OP informing of move and request they 'please sign posts'; Bobs your uncle! 10:35, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Sinister
SinisterNobody? Whaddya need done? Lemme know and I'll pass the job onto one of my friends (dont worry, they're trustworthy) AtlasSoldier 20:59, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I see. I will do that for him. I'll cobble it together, hop on XBL, pass it on to one of my friends, and tell him to add Sinister. Right now, I've gotta hop out for a quick drive to get some dinner and smokes. AtlasSoldier 21:58, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Care to help me figure out how to get this Orion to be as "sick" (as Sinister put it)? I've tried a few things but the gun doesn't seem to want to load up >.>. I got the basic one from the code above to work. It does 1223 x3 damage, 4x shock element, +2 projectiles fired. Only problem is the bullets dont go where you shoot them.

I went out at T-Bone Junction and fired a shot at Scooters place. I heard the Shock-style explosion behind me, and when I turned around, the bullets (or the effects) had magically warped behind me. Help me tweak this gun as it's becoming a pain in my rear end. AtlasSoldier 22:59, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

let sinister guinea pig it for us. 23:56, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Um...
Care to explain to me wtf that bullshit with Atlas was all about? I mean the guy just started here like 5 days ago and seemed alright, and then out of nowhere this? I'm more or less wondering if you thought that was warranted, or if you personally think I did something that would make anyone that incensed.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 00:42, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * quite sadly im just watching the drama unfold. i assume atlas is fed up with the anti-mod sentiment and you were the last straw. that and he was trying to talk to the guy and was tripping over edits coming in from all angles. i would consider it a favour however, if you just let this one die of natural causes or neglect. a good row was had by all.

Dude, he told me he hopes my house burns down. Other than the incident with Treejs, I have a pretty good record of being even-tempered and usually mature enough to let bullshit die, but that is just beyond the pale.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 00:53, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * "Edit conflict" You've hit the nail on the head Dr. F. I am fed up. As I've stated before, I've been an admin on several Wikis in the past, and I know the history of the modding debates here. It just happens to strike a chord with me when people still continue to knock modders. Especially the comment made by Naga about how "Modders shouldn't have a say". I hope I wasn't the only one who made the connection between that comment and the whole history of segregation back in the 50's. AtlasSoldier 00:58, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * For the record (seeing as doc's gonna archive this eventually) I've tried to clarify many things with you, but you seem to ignore them in favor of hurling unfounded insults at people. I don't know or care how many other wikis you've been admin of, but it would help if you'd curse us less and think more. ty 06:09, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, this forum thread has been marked for deletion. Please delete it. AtlasSoldier 01:02, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

You will have to point out where I've knocked someone for modding in order for this ridiculous explanation to be applicable to me personally. And you are trying to liken a disagreement over videogame ethics to racial segregation? That is one of the most absurd things I think I have ever heard. GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 01:03, September 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * yes, yes you are. 06:09, September 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * //edit conflict x2 - ITS MY PAGE LET ME HAVE A GO// @CJ - he wishes you ill in a grander than benign sense. he picked a tragedy which struck a chord in you. a lucky shot. tell him to shove off let him have the last word and be done with it.

@atlas - modding discussions are only disallowed in articles and article/talk pages. the forums are open to modding as well as user namespace. 01:08, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Dr F., as far as the delete tag goes, I only put that there because the creator of the page seemed to desire it gone. It had nothing to do with any ill will toward anyone.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 01:15, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * and i removed it after dealing with the vandal report. the page stands because people are invested in it. you can discuss its value or lack thereof on the talk page. 01:20, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Archiving: Complete :)
All the Archiving is done for now :D

On another note... Is your "Evil Dr. F" Sig suppose to have a pill/capsule shape? When I view it from home, it is just a plain rectangle, but from school, it is a capsule shape. Just wondering. Mr. Orb  COMPLAINTS

firefox = rounded, others = rectangle 03:18, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Welcome
Welcome to Borderlands Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the File:New Legendary Weapon Ideas page. We hope you will continue to be a regular contributor, and will help us improve the wiki!

Please leave a message on my talk page if you need help with anything! I'll be happy to help. -- 18:05, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Also, the NWLI weapon that you made an edit to is relegated to the Etcetera page because the OP did not include what type of weapon it is meant to be. Did you have a suggestion for the weapon type? Let me know. I will be happy to add it for you if you are unfamiliar with editing wikis. Thanks. :) 18:05, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

edit ubx
doc, the original code that i stole from you ;) allowed the user to add a new header to the existing thread. it appears that the new version creates a new thread when an editor uses it. see Forum:New_Legendary_Weapon_Ideas/Rocket_Lauchers created by veg vs. Forum:New_Legendary_Weapon_Ideas/Rocket_Launchers created by yours truly today. thanks. 18:23, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

yup, never mind. that's what happens when i type too fast. is there a way to lock the owner notice to the bottom of the thread? new edits using the edit ubx land under the notice. 18:33, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

aaaand... never mind. i removed the notices from the subpages. the notice appears on the mainpage. that will be sufficient. 18:51, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

see: User_talk:Fryguy42. you could section off the ideas by 1x=headering and adding a header after for notice. amend link for new to point to section (1x=|=). template the notice. 22:13, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you.
Thank you very much, Dr. F. You've helped me out in a time of great need. I am in your debt, sir. AtlasSoldier 00:09, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

A request.
I have a request. After much thought, it has occurred to me that this whole incident was a result of my harsh words and attitude, stemming from some bad judgement on my part. Therefore, I believe I too should receive a 3 day block for my words and actions. It's only fair that I too receive a block. AtlasSoldier 04:44, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * done.

thank you
dr. f thank you for directing someone my way to build my evil gun, XBOX GT SinisterNobody64.202.61.10 11:34, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Does this look good?
Hi Dr. F. I just made a alternate sig and I just want to be sure everything is correct. The should all be in line and everything else should be good. here is the page anyways...

This is either correct or I am hopelessly doomed by spans.
 * try in as many browsers as you can afford to install. this reveals which carry that font and which require you to close your spans/divs/whathaveyous.   20:05, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Regarding recent issue...
Wanted to apologize for my momentary lack of maturity regarding edits to the page of a certain user. Following an incident in which I called his items out as mods in a public context, I had received numerous hostile messages from said person to the point that I became exceptionally exasperated and acted in a form not fitting of my usual conduct in an effort to "get a message across," so to speak. While it was successful ultimately in that regard, I regret having to use the Wiki in a manner which breaches the premise of respect upon which all of us here operate, even given that I do feel that the aforementioned user did himself openly breach that same premise numerous times. Feel free to delete this when finished reading to clear talk page space, as the resolution of the problem which led to it means there will be no further issues.
 * acknowledged, i only added the warn to preempt any complaints of unbalanced treatment. the wiki's argue/flame policy has come under, well, fire of late.  when the discussion thread is started in the forums i would very much like your input.  note - i object only to your use of another's userpage and not to the substance of your edit(s).   20:05, September 12, 2010 (UTC)  i will remove the warn

Re:Flaming Telepaths
You should copy this page to " Borderlands Wiki:Editing Policy " or something and put it somewhere where every1 can clearly see it! That would help alot... if not... *cough* instant blocking *cough*cough* ... Anyway thanks in advance! Hope this will help... Approved by 21:25, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * the instant blocking is what i would like to avoid. your revision of 'what to do . . ' is very useful, it is however not the policy of this wiki at this time.  i would think nominating it for argument resolution makes more sense than editing policy as it has more to do with behaviors than editing in general.   21:34, September 12, 2010 (UTC)