User talk:Dr. Clayton Forrestor




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"maybe not a whole planet . . .id settle for a forest moon . . . with ewoks to shoot (heh, heh)Dr. Clayton Forrestor 10:41, December 2, 2009 (UTC)" =Welcome= Hi, my screen name is Dr. Clayton Forrestor. you can call me Dr. F. i am a sysop (administrator) for this wikia. if i can be of service in any way please contact me. enjoy. -->

Minions of Dr. F
Darkseide

A LB gamer

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DR.
A, Dr.F, are you a real Dr., or is that just your screen name?
 * i am in fact not a doctor of any kind. dr clayton forester was a character from war of the worlds and on mystery science theater 3000, a tv show on comedy central and the sci-fi channel. 17:47, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it's time you should see Dr. F about ENGORGE!! He'll prescribe to almost anyone. Daemmerung 18:37, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Signatures
Do only sysops,moderators or admins get unique custom signatures? ☻BLObOrt☻ 16:18, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

No, Any user can have a custom signature if they wish, there is a section on my talk page which tells you how, look for Claptraps post< 16:58, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

j-nox is correct. anyone can have a custom sig. make a page with your sig. then make a page refering to the first. enter the second page into your preferences pane for signature. it is preferable to have these pages under your user:namespace (such as user:blobort/sig & user:blobort/sig/prefs) 20:20, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Borderlands 2
*cough* This ignores the high likelihood of a "Borderlands 2 Wiki". -- WarBlade 07:42, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * aha! i have you at last!  borderlands 2 already defaults here!  ha ha, you fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
 * *cough* Highfive... anyone...?? :D 08:12, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Here comes the flood
Of new guys. All able men to the portside armaments! Batton down the article hatches! You called it though. ;)GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 18:29, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Is "plugging" acceptable?
Hello, Dr. F,

Prissybitch, here with a request. I trust your opinion and judgement. I've recently joined a PS3 gaming group/forum that caters to adult gamers looking for folks to coop with. So far I really enjoy the camaraderie of the group. When I first visited here I found that, sadly, there weren't many PS3 users here to converse with. I still love the wiki and visit it often for game reference.

I would like to drop a plug for the group in the Watercooler forum or even the PS3 trading forum. Would this be acceptable under wiki rules and etiquette? I just want to offer other PS3 users a place to find other PS3 users who still play the game and will be playing BL2.

Any advice you could offer in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Prissy:) 03:10, May 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * social groups and websites are not subject to the rules for commercial sites. any and all communities and groups for this, or any, game may be endorsed, shamelessly plugged and yes, even pimped.  very good question PB ty4askn.   04:50, May 26, 2012 (UTC) Blogs too. specially blogs.   blogs

Thanks for your support and prompt reply. Good day to ya! 11:43, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

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Videos
I'm going to say this with as much tact as I can: "WTF is this shit !?"
 * http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Toil_and_Trouble
 * http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Where_Angels_Fear_to_Tread_Part_2
 * http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/The_Once_and_Future_Slab
 * http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Wildlife_Preservation
 * http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/The_Talon_of_God

Since when are we IGN's personal video host? Where you aware about this? I'm not sure I can really communicate how much I despise videos on a wiki. They undermine the core "community" aspect of a wiki. They belong on talk, blog or user. NOT mainspace.

Anyways, I was going to remove them, but:
 * 1) They've been here since September 27th and no one has removed them yet.
 * 2) The person to have uploaded them is User:JAlbor, on the "Wikia Community Development Team".

Do you have any stance? happypal (talk &bull; contribs) 17:19, October 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * there is, unfortunately, a push for videos (yes, any videos) on wikia at the moment. recently, or while you were out, staff hardcoded "related videos" into the format.  i believe this did not get the desired response.  in order for it to seem as though many videos are linked i believe staff is attaching all "official" and corporate partner (IGN is GBX partner in Blands1) videos whether they are published or not.

you may, as an admin, Be Bold and take it upon yourself to move the vids. i dont think even the admins can actually delete wikia video library files. i cannot as i have agreed to go along w/ staff on this and several other projects which may or may not come to fruition.

however comma i must ask this as well. are you ok w/ the challenge walkthrough spam of videos on challenges pages? i cannot take a stand against one and support the other. likewise i do not think we can only suppress jorge's (IGN's) videos. my own opinion is videos may be presented in a blog or forum as visual aids and enjoy the freedom of expression each user is granted in those namespaces. narrated videos, imo, should be banned from the internet forever. that said simple gameplay walkthroughs have been used (1, ONE, per page) since 2009.
 * thank you for asking and allowing me to soapbox.  19:32, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

9 months later... The inclusion of guides on the wiki will inherently include videos but the goal is to "cull out" vids that are bloated, replacing such vids for concise ones. Should there be a criteria policy for video? 18:18, July 24, 2013 (UTC) the point being discussed here was what to do w/ staff's torrent of unpublished video uploads/inclusions. last i looked they were not orphans like images are, i should check that. community can decide which video(s) are suited to remain in articles. right now there is not a major competition. 22:03, July 24, 2013 (UTC) Good point... So your saying that we need better videos right? I'll get on it. 11:51, July 25, 2013 (UTC)}}

BackToTop
Any chance we can put a BackToTopButton in our wikia footer? (This is after my failing to manually code the #top function into a particularly long page.) 07:42, February 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * please blog or forum proposal. good idea.   17:26, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

zoom
I hope you know the answer. What is the base zoom for weapons? I can't find it anywhere online. A sniper rifle with a 1.0x zoom can see further than a pistol (with scope of course) with 1.0x zoom. So what's the base zoom for each weapon? And how is this measured? Render distance, in-game meters, field of view decrease, aim down the sights?
 * a good question yet difficult to answer. at least one character has skills to change base zoom of every weapon.  i suggest you start a blog or forum to invite research into base of manufacturer's and model's base zoom.  it would draw some interest at the very least.   03:42, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

Interwiki Links
Hi can you please add the Interwiki Links for Axton and Gaige pages.

For Axton page:

Axton

For Gaige page: Gaige

Done 19:23, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * danke. both of yall. 19:37, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for adding but I forgot to write that the Zer0 page needs the Interwiki Link too. Can you please add it? Zer0

Got it. Also informed user of power to edit. 09:17, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Regarding locations and their "maps"
I have recently started fixing up some of the pages with broken file links, with special interest paid to those needing maps (location pages), since I know I can get those. While doing this, I noticed that some location pages without broken file links are still without maps, and instead have an intro slide (Eridium Blight) or a screenshot (Bloodshot Ramparts). I was just wondering if I should replace those with maps, or if they're fine how they are now. 00:05, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * please move the splash image to a thumbnail in the article (so as not to orphan it). ty4ask.  maps are preferred for the |map = of infobox.   01:00, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

Possible Mistake
Right, I'm not sure if this is meant to happen and is only visible to me... but I created a page for builds (it's rather sparse atm) in my userspace (subpage here -> User:KillarDeez/Builds). I placed it under the category of "Borderlands 2 Builds" instead of a specific character (mostly because I didn't pay enough attention when looking at the Builds page, else wise i'd have noticed that there are no user pages on the main cat), and on account of this (presumably) KillarDeez/Builds is now on the drop down list for Borderlands 2 Builds. If this is just for me, then I apologize, and if I managed to bugger it up and EVERYONE can see it then I apologize even more. I've since changed the page cat to "Gaige Builds", but it's still in the drop down. You have my permission to delete the page if necessary. 06:07, July 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * sometimes we need to clear history or wait for the locel server to reset to see things as intended. seeing as you caught your own error well tag it as a learning exp.  ive said i dont mind what users do in their own namespace but youve made a good point.  dont f**k w/ Mr. 0 (when harry met sally).  something to keep an eye out if others happen to do the same.  thanks for keeping me informed.   11:21, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

Help Needed
Hi! As you may or may not have noticed, I've been having a discussion with WarBlade about some things, and it seems that I'm getting nowhere at all. For some reason, he refuses to talk to me. Can I ask you to at least address the issues properly here? Thanks. 14:53, July 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * per User_talk:Dr._Clayton_Forrestor above the effort is moving along to put maps in the actual "|map=" slot. warblade is w/i policy advising you to run a blog for support.  ive got an image & a map slot on Neverwinter so thats doable as well.  if you can get enough support itll happen.   17:13, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

Old Orphans
I've been poking around in the orphans and trying to thin their number a tad, and I have come to a minor set back. Many of the images are Borderlands 1 infocards, which there is not currently (that I'm aware of) a location for. I was wondering if there should be variant charts made for these weapons/shields/etc. and if it's even possible to make a variant chart for these items (I assume it is, but I've been wrong before). If variant charts are not a possibility, then I was thinking of just making a variant subpage of my user, for the orphans (like I've done with my builds subpage). Feedback is much appreciated. 20:32, July 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * the variant chart was decided as a place to put images. it used to be a section of the talk page but that got cumbersome.  before the talk page charts users would just add an image anywhere, or even not at all just uploading w/o publishing.  this got to be too big so we (I) required that images be categorized and published.  most were.  there are some that just need to go away, sadly.   21:21, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

What witchcraft is this!?
I've been trying to update the map images for the BL2 locations (as we talked about earlier) and I've come across something that I find... perplexing... I planned to replace the image on Tundra Express with an image that isn't as cluttered and discovered that according to the infobox... there isn't any image at all. There also are not any images later in the page. Figured I would ask you about this "ghost image" before I got rid of it. 21:15, July 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * against my wishes the template was designed to include a default image of .png thus redlinking if image is not present. this tends to attract slackers who merely click the link and provide an image at the default locale.  if you add/edit-in a map it will override the default.  please republish the image elsewhere or on the talk page.  ty.   21:29, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

Pull the Pin image
I was confused about the image deletion and only just now understand that it was uncategorised. I tried to reupload and categorise it but was brought to the upload warning page and am unsure where I was going wrong, and also as to where to add categories. Skittery (talk) 21:49, July 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * on the right hand column of edit UI is categories. also you can add to upload dialog. either way is fine. note that category is the catch all, other cats are there just please dont make one up as that can get out of hand. ive restored the image from deletion. ty4asking. Njoy!  06:44, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for restoring and for the clarification! Skittery (talk) 08:43, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

Submachine Guns vs. SMGs
I was checking out the categories list and noticed that we have SMGs as a wanted category and Submachine Guns as an existing one. Was just wondering if you'd like all the entries in SMGs to be moved to Submachine Guns or vice-versa.

15:24, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * id have to check but i think the in game name for these is submachine guns in first game and SMGs in second. 18:14, August 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * The SMG "wanted" category is being generated by people listing "SMG" under type in the weapon infobox. It should be Submachine Gun. The infobox is out of date in that regard, and has a couple of other similar problems that I'm aware of. I had hoped that Happypal would get around to doing the needed updates, but he's somewhat absent these days, and the one time I took a serious look at it I hit a snag and backed off again. -- WarBlade (talk) 21:46, August 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Should I just ignore it for the time being then? Or is there something I could do? I could look into changing SMGs into Submachine Guns in the infoboxes, but it seems like that isn't really the problem. 02:56, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

i should think it better if the latter removes the category. try changing a few SMGs to Submachine Guns. while quite the undertaking it should sort the "wanted" problem. ty. happypal announced on my talk page and in a blog that he (assumed) has quit both this and his curse wiki. he is available for the odd job if asked but is no longer an active user. 08:40, August 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * It's done. All "SMG"s are now "Submachine Gun"s. Compared to pix w/o cats, that was nothing. :) 05:01, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

New team member
There is a new liaison/greeter,. I leave it up to your discretion if a liaison is automatically a chatmod. He is definitely a trusted user and likes helping people and doing tasks on the wiki. He probably should be established in other teams as well, again your discretion. 06:45, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

Location images blog post
Hi! Can I ask you (because you are an administrator on this Wiki) to comment and contribute to my blog post? I need the input of more prominent users of the Wiki and would like to hear your opinion! (same message sent to the other admins and community members) 16:43, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that my proposal for the infobox image changes is approved, even though only two admins have responded. To use the Switch template however, some additional Javascript is necessary. Can I ask you to add this to the MediaWiki:Common.js? Thanks! 22:55, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * cite source please.  21:22, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Source? The author and site are clearly mentioned at the beginning of the script. 21:06, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

tx. totally missed that. 21:51, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * i noticed the close syntax tag @ end w/o an open syntax tag. i got the rest of the header from the site.  check that next time or just link to the java, vice (mis)quoting.   22:04, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

I just copied the code from my own Wikis, works perfectly so I figured it wouldn't be a problem. Thanks for adding that JS, I'll get started on the location infoboxes. 22:09, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Link to great page
Just letting you know that I intend to add a link to the policy section on blocking. I discovered the policy was in effect, of sorts, already (but not published).

Right now it is left up to the discretion of the individual admin on how to implement this policy (which I have no problem with) but Users are telling other Users that they are in violation and the policy needs to be more concrete for all Users to know the boundaries.

Specifically, Warblade informed me that Edit wars are forbidden and that he adapts a rough version of the three revert rule.

I propose that the Blocking Policy sentence: "Other vandalism refers to vandalism that does not fit into the above categories. This would include moving a page to a bad name, swearing, and more."

Be changed to: "Other vandalism refers to vandalism that does not fit into the above categories. This would include moving a page to a bad name, prolonged edit wars, swearing, and more."

The reasons I intend to add this link are the following:
 * 1) The policy is already in place but not published.
 * 2) Provides clear guidelines to both admins and users.
 * 3) Provides sound advice and guidelines on resolving conflict.
 * 4) Users can link and quote the guidelines to other Users in a consistent manner.
 * 5) Simple link to a great source covers all of the above.

I believe that any policy that is in place should be published and concrete as possible.

Unclear rules is what brought about this discovery. If you would like to know more, it started on EDIT:STATUESQUE (HISTORY AND TALK PAGE) THEN MOVED TO User talk:InfinitysCross, then my talk page, then finally User talk:WarBlade.

A simple link will take care of it. 06:51, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * edit warring is not vandalism. it is an offense in it's own right. 21:56, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Very good point. I will add it to the Simplified ruleset instead:

 Do Not Be Bold  if you are expressing your opinion, engaging in edit wars, or changing the wiki's format. Please make suggestions on talk page and consult this wiki's policies. 08:44, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

I have added the note and now the (3RR,24-hour) policy is officially in both practice and published. 12:09, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Location Infobox issue
For some reason, all location infoboxes now place a |}} at the beginning of their articles. If you mouse over the template for them in visual editor, it shows the "|}}" text as included in the template. I have not the slightest clue how one might go around fixing this. Also, it should be noted that this occurs on both the new infoboxes (with the image switch) and the "old" ones. Hopefully you know how to fix this, or at least where to start. If the fix is something to be done on the page itself (as opposed to the templates, which is what I suspect), I am completely willing to help. EDIT: It's worse than I suspected. It seems ALL infobox templates are doing it. 00:44, August 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * i left a message with bere requesting that he clean up any extraneous code left over from his recent change to the template:infobox page. this will allow for the opportunity for the original code monkey to rectify the problem (soonish) before the nuclear option is initiated. thanks for pointing out the problem. cheers.

03:39, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

i tried counting the brackets. i have a suspect but i think fry is correct in letting the person who last had it sort it. 03:47, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

What do you get when you cross 2 chatmods, an admin and a bureaucrat?
I have official apologized to Acegikmo31 on behalf of the wiki. I have also linked the Simplified ruleset to the three revert rule for official clarity and consistency in use. I am glad that the wiki has benefited and that differences were worked out. 13:10, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Skin images
Do we have a proper category to put images of character skins into? The Skins Category claims to be only for articles. If we don't, could I create some (individual category for each character, much like the Builds categories)? Thanks as always for your help!

14:47, August 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * is that reword satisfactory? ty for heads up.   11:07, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

BL1 Variants
I have begun redoing BL1 variant charts in my own userspace, adding in Manufacturer, Rarity, and some other information which is shown on BL2 variants, as well as removing all entries without images. I've also added a number previously orphaned images. I haven't done a huge number thus far, and because I did all the variant charts on one page for each weapon type (so as to not have hundreds of pages in my userspace), the reference lists don't appear correctly (the coding is fine, though), but you can see some of what I've done here. I was wondering if I could (a) create variant pages like we have for BL2 using these charts or (b) replace the existing variant charts on the weapon talk pages with these new ones.

Thanks as always for your help and consideration.

00:06, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * i would very much rather we left borderlands pages and their subpages alone. fortunately for you this is not up to me. if you get enough support for your overhaul via blog/forum by policy i must allow it. keep me posted on how that goes. 06:32, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * iatbr note: Dr.F is getting soft... He forgot to warn you that he will ban any such user that gains support, starts the project and doesn't finish it (prolly... on a scale this big anyway). Killa has my support though since the wiki will improve. 06:42, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

I think I'll do a few more charts in my user space before I suggest it to the community... maybe a lot more. There are going to be (roughly) 139 items which would require new charts. When I'm better prepared (and university isn't just starting up again) I will make a proposal for this. 02:29, September 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * wisdom prevails. curse you IatBR!  you have meddled in my plottings long enough.  probly still give you a kit of rare stuff when you get to 60 in neverwinter though so hollow curses yet curses still.   09:43, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Collaboration
Hi!

From what I can see, you are the main manager of the Borderland Wiki. I want to ask you about collaborating with Duxter  . They are making a Borderlands 2 portal on their website, one of section on the portal will be a wiki. I am wondering if you are interested in collaborating with them.

If possible could you add me on Skype bestgorillaman or email me at bestgorillaman(at)gmail(dot)com for more information.

GorillaMan September 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * as duxter is members only i cannot assess the merits of collaboration. i am not aware of any agreements between wikia and duxter.  if there are any i should be aware of please link them to me.  i, for one, do not have need of more wikis to manage or edit, i am full.  you may recruit members via a blog however comma if duxter is a membership service, wikia may be due revenue for such activities.  should there ever be a wiki viewable by non members please let me know, i should like to see it.  my skype and gmail are listed above, i accept all friend requests.   13:47, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Wikia and Duxter have no agreement with each other, however as Duxter is setting up a Borderland wiki I though the best place to turn for help is the already existing wiki at Wikia and ask for help. Sadly Duxter does not yet have features such as the more commonly know wikis where you can click the edit button and edit the page, the Duxter staff have set up a "drawing board" which is than filled up with the necessary info and finally transferred onto their portal. I am just asking for help from one person, I understand that you are busy, however would you mind referring an admin who would possibly take up this job?

GorillaMan 02:31, September 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * the admins here are quite busy as you can imagine w/ content still releasing. you might recruit by way of a blog.  i am sure some folks want to join at the beginning of something.  even if they dont get to actually edit.  in your blog you might also explain the membership benefits of duxter (there are none on its front page that i saw).   02:47, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

CONFUSED BUT NOT DAZED
Will you ever edit that  leave me a message b(a)rderlands thing? im confused. 22:37, September 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * 02:40, September 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * it gets worse.

03:11, September 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Assassin WHAT?

?username template not appearing on that page? 13:27, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

umm... WHHHHHHHAAAAATTTT? 00:52, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

Nevermind i get it, it just says the name of your account. Coool. 22:43, September 13, 2013 (UTC)

Categorizing Sound Files???
I was clearing out the pix w/o cats again and I came across this, File:Audio Streaming 03298.ogg... I was wondering if there was a category for things like that, because as have no idea where to put it. It's audio from CL4P-TR4P during one of the early missions in the game, and it has been placed on the transcript page for that mission. Thanks as always for your help. :)

03:11, September 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * i used user specific.    03:57, September 14, 2013 (UTC)

DLC or No?
Should infoboxes for enemies/characters/etc introduced through Digistruct Peak Challenge have the DLC name in the "appearences" section, or should that be left blank? 17:03, September 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * They should identify the DLC they appear in. This time it's a bit of a problem with the full name though, so I'm leaning towards the text after the colon, eg. "Digistruct Peak Challenge." -- WarBlade (talk) 20:13, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

That seems reasonable for all non-location pages, but location pages automatically make the text in the appearances section into a link... Should a redirect page be made so as to accommodate this? 23:09, September 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes. -- WarBlade (talk) 23:18, September 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Wait, no. There's an unadvertised parameter I built in ages ago to get around a similar DLC problem with the Natural Selection Annex. Use this instead:
 * | dlc2       =
 * -- WarBlade (talk) 23:27, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

tyvm. both. 02:50, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Chatmod Request?
I am curious as to how someone would go about becoming a chat mod. I haven't been on this wiki for a terribly long time, but I am a member of a team already, and being a liaison requires knowledge of policy (including chat policy). Just curious if it's a possibility.

17:25, September 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * You'd have to go through me first <_< I see no reason for new chat mods, as generally, the chat is dead, and either I or InfinitysCross is in there.  If chat does get more popular, I'd consider you for the job.  23:47, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

in answer to your question the LiveChat function is almost as new as those who moderate it. there would have to be a need for a moderator communicated to me by a sitting moderator for one to be appointed. as i mostly eschew LiveChat and FryGuy is the admin who used to run the wiki by it, i only interfere w/ LiveChat upon request(s). any misconduct by any user may be appealed to an admin or me. it is highly recommended that there be grounds for such an appeal (preferably backed up by screen shots). 02:50, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * May not have the power, but noone else will suggest new chat mods either. I see no reason other than the fact that it is a possibility that some other mod may suggest to say that I don't have the authority to do so.   03:05, September 19, 2013 (UTC)