User:Nagamarky/Chatlogs/07

2122 X 3 helix destructor
do you consider moving a gun's level to 61 modding? my 1514 x 3 helix destructor was moved to level 61 by a friend, thus creating the 2122 x 3 version. from farming craw, i've seen some weapons that are pretty close to a gun moved to level 61.

example. my U hunter's bulldog was moved from 60 to 61 and given a frantic module to move the fire rate to 1.9. a friend toyed around with the accuracy, etc, and got a 262 x 7 bulldog with 52.1% accuracy. (changing the damage from 226 x 7 to 233 x 7) (up from 1.6)

in a 2 person craw run, just after we killed craw. the first rare he picked up was a 262 x 7 hunter's bulldog with 1.9 fire rate, scoped, with 52.1 % accurate. i also found a 233 x 7 hunter's shotgun with exactly the same specs as the bulldog, except for 12 shots and a 1.4 fire rate. thanks for your time. p.s. the launcher may have been a 1560 x 3 destructor i got in a craw run.


 * Personally, yes I do consider that to be modding. --Nagamarky 05:52, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

sig prob?
hi, nags. i may have found the supposed sig problem from the day before (6/22/10). according to the activity feed when you edited borderlands_wiki:vandalism you also added the jabberwock pic from my sig. of course you did not add the pic to the vandalism wiki so i don't know why the activity feed thinks that you did. on the other hand i followed the feed back 36 hours and found no other instances of my pic popping up where it didn't belong. color me confused. (cc: doc f) 18:19, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Dove Hornet
When the dove and hornet spawn together and the hornets accessory overrides the doves, does that mean that the doves no ammo effect is completely absent? I'm asking because I found a hornet dropped from slither but did not have the dove effect. - 02:16, June 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Hornet has the accessory and the Dove has the barrel, so nothing overrides anything else. When they spawn together, aka a "Dove Hornet", it will appear as a BLR Hornet with no prefix (Dove forces no prefix, Hornet forces its title) but not all BLR Hornets, or Hornet in general for that matter, are Doves. If you don't see the effect, means it's not there, simple as that. --Nagamarky 04:22, June 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up. - 04:33, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sniper rof
Yo can you tell me what the highest rof is for a (purple) rarity sniper is.

Cuz i have a 3.6! rof liquid thunder (out the top of my head) so is that possible?

i think it was called PPZ470.W Liquid Thunder. or something i'll go check it but is that rof possible? No signature found... 07:47, June 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Card it or I can't say for sure. Honestly, I don't see why you of all people are so particular about legitimacy. --Nagamarky 08:04, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

k ill try to card it 4 ya and btw can SMG's come with the HX 550? cuz i thought they could only go up to HX 540 as being the best grade. No signature found... 10:27, June 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes they can, guns are modeled and named by parts. Because it would be counterproductive and a waste of time, I am not continuing until I have some sort of assurance that you are not going to wipe any more of our comments just because it shows your items are modded, or proclaim to people that all your guns are legit when they're obviously not. --Nagamarky 10:37, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

"Perfect" Kyros power
Okay, Im just gonna put this here because I dont really know how to make a new section. I saw you post the "Perfect" Kyros power, and decided I would play around on the Gearcalc with Cyclops/kyros power. I dont know why, but whenever I try to make one with both parts, it says the Cyclops overrides the Kyros Power title. I eventually got around to making this (dont know how to do Item card, so Ill post the code). Its name seems kind of odd, since the blank prefix for some reason has higher priority over Pearl/Erupting, and overall I wanted to know your opinion on it... dlc3_gd_customweapons.Unique_Weapons.CustomWeap_SemiAutoSniper_KyrosPower gd_manufacturers.Manufacturers.Atlas gd_weap_sniper_rifle.A_Weapon.WeaponType_sniper_rifle gd_weap_sniper_rifle.Body.body4 gd_weap_sniper_rifle.Grip.grip5 gd_weap_sniper_rifle.mag.mag3 gd_weap_sniper_rifle.Barrel.barrel4 gd_weap_sniper_rifle.Sight.sight5_Atlas_Cyclops gd_weap_sniper_rifle.Stock.stock5 None dlc3_gd_weap_UniqueParts.SemiAutoSniper.acc2_KyrosPower dlc3_gd_weap_UniqueParts.SemiAutoSniper.Material_KyrosPower_3 gd_weap_names_shared.Prefix.PrefixU_blank gd_weap_sniper_rifle.Title.TitleM_Atlas1_Cyclops BenNeg 13:36, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

First of all, one of GearCalc's many loopholes is that the naming system isn't perfect yet. duncanfogg said that he took the codes straight from the game files, which as we all know are kind of wonked at the moment. So ignore the naming completely.

Save for the Friendly Fire and probably a few others which I forget now, unique weapons usually have no prefix, i.e. the entire name is from the title. This is why unique hybrids appear with the legendary title and no prefix (Dove as a BLR Hornet, Ajax's Spear as an Ogre, etc). The unique part forces no prefix, and the legendary elemental part forces its title.

However, I have noticed that this only applies for legendary elementals. Legendary non-elemental hybrids like the Cyclops will let the title, Kyros' Power, spawn (T.K.'s Wave with the Bulldog mag etc). --Nagamarky 14:47, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

How I can open Willow Tree?
Ok, my friend have downloaded at least 2 Willow Trees, and he can´t open them. He´ve Windows XP, so what is the problem? His computer doesn´t let him open them...you know? And I´ve Vista, where I can download Willow Tree, that works in his computer (link, please), or do I´ve to download it into my computer, so I can help my friend?

Do I´ve to run it with something, or what? Do I really have to have Xplorer360 and XTAF USB Explorer? Sinister5310 12:45, June 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * The latest version of WillowTree is available here - just extract the package and run the exe. Nagamarky 12:56, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I´ll. But run it with "exe", I don´t understand (I´m from Finland), do you mean Xplorer360/XTAF USB Explorer? Yup? BTW, thanks a lot! Sinister5310 18:17, June 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * No, just run the program in the folder called WillowTree# Nagamarky 22:41, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Ok... Sorry, I´m so n00b...

All you need to have:

WillowTree (Link above),

Else?

Step 1: Download WillowTree

Step 2: Save it into your computer

Step 3: Run it with "WillowTree#"...? Jeez! I don´t even know, what it is!?!

Sorry, but this is hard... Sinister5310 18:14, June 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Don't bother with the Xplorer360/XTAF USB Explorer crap. Just download from the link, save whatever you downloaded, extract the archive (I hope you know what an archive is), and you will see a program called WillowTree#. Run it. I don't know how to explain it in a simpler manner than this. --Nagamarky 22:54, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ok...well, at least I´ll try... And that is a ZIP-file...I hope, this ain´t a joke. And sorry, if I wasted your time... But this is the last question; extract = click the file with mouse´s right button? What do you mean with that? Or something else? If you mean that, it doesn´t work... Sorry if I´m getting on your nervs... Sinister5310 07:36, June 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Does your computer have anything to handle ZIP files? Just do whatever you need to do to open it. You will see WillowTree# inside when you open it. --Nagamarky 08:25, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Only Internet exp... But when I opened it, it launched many pages of internet...you know..? Mabey I should just give up... ´Cause I don´t know, do I really need WT#... Sorry this all, but I´ve no choise... -Sinister5310 20:42, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

+3 Team Find Rare Items
Out of curiosity, can a COM with +3 Team Find Rare Items actually spawn in-game? A thread that's been going here has a couple of users claiming it exists, but I figured you'd know for certain (after all, even if a screenshot is given it isn't definite proof). I figured you'd come across the thread anyways, but letting you know it's there could save you some time if you wanted to resolve it. -- 02:06, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Rose Question??
Is 'Alacritous' the only legit prefix? What about 'Harmonious'?? Thanks in advance. Wrecked111 00:28, July 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * see:User:Bukkithead/Bukkit_o_Stuph or look at gear calculator. 00:38, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

I was asking Nag, but thanks anyway I guessWrecked111 02:08, July 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * As far as I've seen, only Alacritous on Roses. What Dr F said. Nagamarky 02:48, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks yet again Nag! Wrecked111 04:44, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

ogre revert
hey, nags. the project that jce is working on is a job given to him/her/it by doc f. see jce's talk page for details. 18:38, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

this format change has been up for a week on the draco and hellfire pages where i asked _specifically_ for input. so, no i will add one line of extra text as opposed to two and a half. you may, of course, re-edit all the changes to place them under special weapon effects. or shall we discuss this now, after the fact? 23:18, July 7, 2010 (UTC) would you allow this for example? (edit - content removed as advertised)
 * nor do i intend to explain what =Mechanics= is, as that has yet to be determined (by levi i fear, though i can hope bobtm will take charge).  23:29, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * thoughts? complaints?  outrages or threats?  you can trust me, i am a doctor.   10:21, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Offhand, I'm thinking we could probably put up a standard note like "for the mechanics behind this weapon/part/whatever, see LINK". I do not agree on the whole or with any part of Levi's overhauling, especially with the constructs, and seeing as he/they are not pursuing it any further, I will take this liberty to revise the concept and if necessary implement it eventually in a better form. A form which minimizes constructs. Also, stating the details behind each accessory would of course be mandatory, but that requires help from... that other community. --Nagamarky 14:43, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * please see Template:Mechanics and its result on Maliwan Hellfire.  23:35, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Hey, thanks for moving that for me - I'm new to the wiki-editing scene lol WhackyGordon 23:06, July 7, 2010 (UTC)