User talk:J-NoX

Welcome
What he said ^ lol

If you have anything to say then go ahead, they gave me a whole page 4 it so might aswell use it :)

Id appreciate any help regarding small pics for sigs, admin only thing i dont no....

Also if you happen to view my "Skagzilla the easy way" video please rate and comment if you can

I wasn't trying to spam anything, my name'll move off the top of the recent changes log soon enough. And what would a higher edit count accomplish for me? I was only trying to help with navigation, in a way I saw used on other wikis. I stated my thoughts days ago on Borderlands_Wiki:Needhelp and in edit summaries for Template:Enemies (which showed up in the edit log too). And then, with no other input, and considering this is a wiki and there's no permanent damage I could do, yeah, I went ahead. 31stCenturyMatt 14:17, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

All im saying it that it wasnt necessary, no problems with navigation have yet to cause concern and as a result the enemy tables you have undoubtedly placed on a high number of pages will be rarely if ever used and perhaps even NOTICED

Do you want a Signature?
Bored of the same old text sigs like i was, well if you let me no i can see what i can about getting you hooked up with a unique sig, comment below with some ideas : ) P.S i focus on designs such as my own, simple not complex but still looks nice ay lol

Signature
< 1st success may design more in future :)

< 2nd success but still instead of linking to a page it instead takes you to the image file?!?! help

< 3rd success and final hopefully, links are correct im sure, should have read wiki help long ago lol

Attempting to reduce amount of code...   SUCCESS!!!!

18:12, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for previous sigs leaving the Added photos in recent changes feed

No, sigs aren't an admin only thing. You'll need to create a subpage of your user page (such as User:J-NoX/sig) and put in what you want your sig to be there. Then, create another, like User:J-NoX/sig_preferences with the content ++:User:J-NoX/sig++ as it's content (with +s replaced by {s and }s). I can do this for you, but you then need to go to Special:Preferences and scroll down to the "Signature" section. Check the box that says "Use custom signature" or whatever, and put ++SUBST::User:J-NoX/sig preferences++ in the above box (again, +s replaced with {s and }s). If there's any problems, we can work 'em out. -- 02:37, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: Pages are all set, all that's left is for you to edit your preferences. -- 02:42, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

ill try it now although bit confused with the ++ part


 * Replace the brackets with braces "{/}" (To get braces, hold Shift and click the bracket keys) 03:22, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Tried using braces on the rhe above sig File etc... red text about template missing anyways if we were ever able to get my sig going how do u go about having the talk and contribs links in there? i got a design, way too big i no but more detail purposes will keep large to show u guys [[File:J-nox_final_2.png

EDIT: woo she works but as you can see i hace icons for talk page and contributions, how do i get them to link to those pages, can it be done with one image??


 * As far as I know, it can't be done with one image. You'd need to split the image into three different images and put them side by side, making each one a link to a different page. -- 20:04, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

DONE!

Edit: just noticed everytime i use my signature it adds the 3 images that make it up to the page i've left it on, any solution?

Images
Did you make all those images on your user page and sig yourself? If so, fantastic work. 02:15, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

indeed i did, i do enjoy some designing here and there, i particularly like the borderland logo with the lasers but it does need a little bit more work anyway i appreciate you comment :)

No problem, they really are good. I'm guessing you use Photoshop? 02:27, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

i can use photoshop but for these images i did not, i like to model my designs in 3-d, makes them looks nicer i think, you can move and play around with a 3-d object rather than having to design a new position in 2-d

WHat program do you use? Also, your sig is broken. 22:40, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

3d max and broken?? how can it be fixed would appreciate any help

Claptrap was showing you how to use the {User:J-Nox/sig} thing, but I guess you're not using it. Your sig leaves a huge note in the source. 22:59, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

i use it, when i asked about the 3 links and 3 images i altered the user:j-nox/sig page to 3 images with the individual links, i inputted the ]]

EDIT: till no change

No, it's changed. Lemme see what's wrong. 01:29, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

ok, the sig image actually shower up with in prefs just had the long code and added images were ever i left it

EDIT:  (spaced)

My Designs
Just made new section were I can add my borderlands related designs, fell free to comment


 * not bad. see if you can chop it up and link the parts then reassemble with tables. just a thought. looks good. 05:03, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Dr.F thanks for your complement but what exactly do you mean, make to userboxs links to related pages i.e Roland the solider redirects to Roland home page?? 05:06, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * yes, exactly that. 05:16, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

ill try and get to it tonight, going to be a pain cutting the images up lol 15:25, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Userboxes
I can find out how to make userboxes; it's not too hard, I just gotta find the page. 00:12, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Found it.

To make a userbox, follow these steps:
 * Make a new page titled Template:(name of your template)
 * Use this page to help make a userbox on your new page (Copy/paste the chart and fill in the parameters)
 * You can use your userbox by putting  onto your page.

Both "name of your template" spaces must be the same. 00:16, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ty but i was thinking more along the lines of a whole new style/theme rather than the small pic left and text box to the right with 1 colour for each etc, i had 3d themes in mind

...I don't understand what you're saying. You want 3d userboxes? That's not a Borderlands Wiki project, that's a Wikia project. 00:24, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

I just think it beats the dull 2d ones, surely wikia have the facilities to let users create such a thing?

Nope. If you want a 3d userbox, you will have to make a 2d userbox look 3d and upload the image. 00:32, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

lols that what ive been talking about, a 3d (theme) userbox, it would be in 2d when on the site but it would have the appearance of a 3d box, maybe the shadow,glow,reflection, lighting etc, to have an actuall 3d userbox the site would need to be in 3d lol, so in otherwords how do you upload your own design instead of going off the two coloured boxes

You make a 2d userbox, save it as an image, edit it so its 3d, upload to wiki. 00:53, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

thats the part i alrdy know how to do but how do i make it an actual userbox so others if they want could use, atm its just an image

Impossible. 01:08, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

compromise
not to harsh your buzz, but is the skagzilla page acceptable now? 00:46, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

It was acceptable before i just wanted a reason why it was altered before and they did not provide one ( justified ), personally can i ask are you having trouble understanding/reading the page, are the added videos causing you distress because of the adding scrolling time ? not referring to the previous argument just your opinion 01:19, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * give me a bit to review the paragraph and such in history. and i have _no_ opinion on this or any page (a white lie) as i am, in effect, an arbitrator. 01:26, March 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * We gave you perfectly good reasons why the videos were removed, and you flamed us. 01:22, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

good reasons ?? you mean the text displacement and scrolling time lol please, and is was a two way argument my dear boy and flaming.. i was simply stating my argument and a good one at that dont you think


 * You stated nothing. You acted as though we were completely wrong. If you had taken the time to try and consider things from our point of view, we wouldn't be arguing right now. I don't think your argument was good. You were being stubborn. You acted as though your actions were 100% justified and you were correct, and we were completely wrong. 01:28, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Your acting the same way as if you are 100% right and i was wrong, you continued to reinforce your argument and continued trying to justify your reasons instead of seeing things from my point of view so dont think that applies to just me .., Also i tried to understand your reasons but they just werent justified, however small the issue the reasons you both gave were useless as i said above, the resulted changes from my additions long ago had no  problem  at all , note the underline and bold font, it was nothing more than a change, alteration, modification, addition which ever you choose it did not cause a problem 01:34, March 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * I repeated the argument because I felt you were not trying to see things from our point of view. And technically, we never even removed the video, so your argument was practically invalid to begin with. 01:37, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * (EDIT) Actually, the reason I replied the way I did was because you did not support your argument. You told us why we shouldn't have removed it, but never once why it should have been in the article. You told us you got a lot of views, but that's beneficial to you and not the wiki, so you really can't use it to justify your argument. 01:39, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

What benefit do i get from the views of my video......... none so im not sure what your talking about there, i used the number of my views as a piece of evidence to show it was in regular use thats it and why should a regularly watched video be taken out??? And regarding my paragraph about a method for killing skagzilla along with the video i thought it being in the article was obvious.... because its useful and relevant to the topic, 1 useful as its a method for killing skagzilla and 2 its relevant because its about skagzilla ?!?!!? 01:53, March 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * About the videos, tell me one thing. Did you even know that your videos weren't removed, but just moved to links instead of being embedded?


 * As for the paragraph, it was removed for several reasons. One reason is because it was written in first-person, which is against wikia policy. It was also very difficult to follow and confusing; do you jump onto the ledge you fell down from? If so, I tried that, it's impossible. I think you would have been better off making a video of it, because the paragraph was simply difficult to understand. 01:56, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ill ask my question first, to what section of my paragraph are you referring when you said " do you jump onto the ledge you fell down from" now the rest..

Sorry but i laughed quite hard from your last comment, you say you found it hard to understand and in your opinion is was impossible and that i should have made a video of that? haha if you had bothered to compare the 2 you would have noticed the video is about the paragraph i had written but if your finding it hard to understand i can edit the video to have the lines of my paragraph displayed when necessary, maybe add a few seconds pause so you can fully understand it ??


 * I was referring to what you said about "Fall down the ledge and walk backwards and grenade jump onto the ledge". And I did not match your video with the paragraph. and you did not refer to what I said about the paragraph being written in first person. Did you at last see things from my side? *gasp* 02:19, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

I will grant you that, i did not know that i could not right a paragraph in first person, i apologise for that as for your problem with understanding my method this is exactly how i wrote it in my paragraph "as you make your way over the bridge and come to the area were you drop down to fight skagzilla, take a few steps back and grenade jump onto the top of that area" i did not say fall down anywhere, that was your mistake. Also regarding your "I did not match your video with the paragraph", why didn't you. I titled my paragraph "Skagzilla the easy way" and the video was titled "Skagzilla the easy way"


 * I was not making a specific quote, I was simply referring to how you mentioned coming down the ledge. And your paragraph is still confusing. Taking steps back and jumping onto the edge of the area, what the heck does that mean? 02:33, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Again you are confused the only time i mention dropping down from anywhere is after you kill skagzilla, i say go to the area/point if you will where you are supposed to drop down NOTE i do not say drop down, then take a few steps backs and grenade jump up, in my video i do not do this why because i have done it so many time that doing a running granade jump is quicker however the fact you did not compare my two materails i guess you cant use that in your argument.. anyway regarding the what the heck does that mean, it means exactly what its supposed to, take a few steps back, you know how to move backwards? then grenade jump to the previously quoted area above were you drop down to fight skagzilla, once up there you move forward towards skagzilla and the edge of of the roofed are you grenade jumped 2, how is that hard to understand and if someone like yourself was having difficulty you could have watched my video, in fact i ensist you watch it again, follow it exactly in the video the only difference from the text and video is the running grenade jump, now lets see if you find it impossible?? 02:45, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

P.S the video is also on my user page :)


 * I am confused because the paragraph is confusing. You could have said to grenade jump onto the roof or something along those lines. You also could have mentioned that the video related to the paragraph; a user should not have to infer such a thing for himself. 02:47, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for this late reply but i must have fallen asleep, anyway i suppose i could have put a little more thought into describing how to do my method but i didn't think it needed it as i had no messages regarding it, also regarding your problem yet again "come to the area were you drop down to fight Skagzilla...and grenade jump onto the top of that area" tell me how that can be perceived any other way than to grenade jump on top, regarding the link between video and method the only user that would need to be straight up told " hello video ...method....right next to each other??? hellooo" is you, 1. both materials are titled the same, 2. both materials match up regarding progress through the method and perhaps the most blatant is the fact that they are right next to each other!! 14:15, March 14, 2010 (UTC)




 * I don't watch the vids, so I had no idea that the video was related to the paragraph. If you had mentioned in the paragraph that the video was related, we would not be having this discussion. 16:10, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

this discussion isnt about relations between the two, you have focused it on that and my answer to that is your the ONLY i repeat ONLY person who would have such a problem noticing the VERY VERY OBVIOUS. In fact this discussion has kind of strayed off to revealing your ...... inability to understand obvious relations between materials. This was originally for an answer to the deletion of my content, note the deletion, after war blades edit the was no paragraph nor link to my video so your wrong again there anyway i overall conclude that 1. you really did not know what you were talking about throughout this discussion and were basically talking a load of ...... just to get the last word in and 2.. oh wait i think i summed everything up in 1 : )


 * You misunderstand me. My point is that I hardly ever pay attention to the videos, and thus I had no idea that the video and paragraph were related. 18:52, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

I thought i'd underline and bold format the "I" in your comment as i thought it was necessary, im going to admit i tried to find an answer to that comment but i realised that i had already answer it with my previous comment, allow me to quote "you really did not know what you were talking about throughout this discussion and were basically talking a load of ...... just to get the last word in", do yourself a favour and stop commenting because your just wasting your time < being as truthful as i can 19:10, March 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * If I didn't know, then there would without a doubt be users and guests who would not know. Had you simply stated in the paragraph that the video was related, neither would have been removed. 19:21, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Oh so now your saying that my content was removed because a visible link/ 50ft sign was not present to point you in the direction of were the related content was(video)wow whats that the 4th??? 5th excuse you've given me hahaha 19:27, March 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * That's not a reason why it was removed, it was a way for you to prevent it from being removed. 19:33, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Keep wanting to get the last word in ay fenrakk u naughty boy haha, and quoting yourself "Had you simply stated in the paragraph that the video was related, neither would have been removed." your are indeed using that as a reason and if you cant understand your own comments well you need help haha, and you keep crying about the link, you really are struggling arent you lol because im still baffled that your well  ....still.......here ........, ill give you this, you got alot of ...time but few braincells  to notice your comments arent doing much  for ya.. 19:49, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Maliwan Hellfire
The comment you removed was not on the main article for the weapon. It was on the Talk Page for the weapon. The section was the "How can I get a hellfire". You removed it with the comment "no longer needed, otherwise adding that most weaposn can be farmed would be needed on each page'. Readding it unless you feel such a comment doesn't even belong on the Talk Page for the weapon. (T/C) 01:28, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reason why i removed it was just, the section was no longer necessary, why?? Because there is no specific area, place or drop were this weapon can be obtained, if there was then that would merit being added to the page however it is a random drop as with 95% of the weapons in borderlands, if there was a guaranteed method of obtaining this weapon then it would be on the page for others looking for it to see, however there wasn't leaving the random drop the only option hence a section stating this obvious information is not needed, this opens the door to having " can be obtained anywhere anytime " for almost all weapons which again......IS NOT NEEDED. Also another reason why it was deleted was because of a wiki notice stating the page was long enough to cause lag for certain users. Now please remove the section before i have to.... 01:43, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: I am going to delete the section now, if you continue to disagree with the decision then try and get a hold of one of the current sysops/admins and if they agree with you then ill leave it alone however if they do not please stop re-adding the section as i believe a wiki notice and common knowledge favour the deletion

I will also read through the page and see if it can be shortened further.. 02:23, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not going to readd the section, but did you even read that it was on the Talk page for the weapon and not the actual article where such a question can be asked? (T/C) 02:39, March 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * It's wikia policy to help anyone who needs help, even if they TL;DR'ed the article. You can put pointles questions into some form of FAQ on the talk page, but you may not remove them.  I'm not going to readd the section, but keep this tidbit in mind from now on. 02:40, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

@ fenrakk i followed wikia's policy and helped the person with his question, i then continued to explain why such a section having been answered should be deleted or considered to be deleted, and regarding the removing, i frequently come across wiki notices at the top of pages asking members to improve pages and in the case of the Maliwan Talk page the notice stated that other users may have scrolling problems because the page was larger than ??? KB, How to solve this??? by deleting and shortening the page and i started with the question i had just answered as the person who asked the question was satisfied with my answer 02:48, March 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Generally you would archive a page if it gets like that rather than delete sections. [[Image:ParAmSIG.jpg]](T/C) 07:00, March 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * It's a talk page, so there really is no limit. You cannot edit and shorten a talk page like an article. And did the user reply, proving that he had seen the answer and the issue resolved? 16:16, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

He did not reply however at the bottom of my answer i said to delete the section if he/she was satisfied, shortly after the section was deleted byt that same person 18:50, March 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * So what the heck is the argument about? The creator of the section chose to delete it him/herself. 19:40, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

heres the basics, guys asks how to get hellfire, i answer and ask him to delete if he was satisfied with answer.. guys deletes shortly later however and user decides to re-add it, i wondering why delete it again saying its not need.. been answered... etc then i got the comment above and thats were it carried on.. 20:02, March 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll look into it. I'll also talk with the other mods. This is an issue we must look into. (Not this specifically, but the "deleting answered questions" thing) 20:12, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

go for it, hopefully it will prevent my talk page from being filled with such discussions/arguments lol 21:12, March 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * The new goal is to add an "Acquiring (whatever weapon it is)" section to every page. Now, if anyone asks how to get a weapon on an article with that section, delete the question immediately. 21:55, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

So a new section on "How to obtain" or whatever will be added to talk pages for each weapon, anyone posting a new section on that same talk page regarding the same thing will be deleted? Also are the sysops just doing this or would you guys like a hand, if you do is there a pre-prepared paragraph your using.. 22:16, March 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * No, in the main article. Look at Maliwan Hellfire, that is the first page we have done it for. And of course we could use a hand, all projects on the wiki are a group effort and members are free to contribute and help if they wish. 22:19, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well ill get right on it, ill just scan through the categories of weapons doing each one but if im not sure about a weapon ill just leave it.. 22:50, March 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * If you're not sure, just add the section and another user will add to it. 22:51, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re:
Yes, all of them. Also, the sections are written as "Acquiring {PAGENAME}", but with double brackets. 00:47, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ok and regarding weapons such as combat rifles i believe it would be best to at the acquire section just on the main page of the weapon rather that on each individual types page as they all excluding quest only can be obtained the same way 00:53, March 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, only on Legendary weapons. And I don't think the main articles require them, like Shotguns and Combat Rifles; JUST Legendary weapons. 00:54, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ok but aren't Legendary weapons similar to none legendary what would be put for legendary other than obtained through chests and high level enemy drops? 00:57, March 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * A lot of Legendary weapons are guaranteed to drop in some certain location. That's why people tend to ask how to get them. 00:59, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm well im not sure which legendary weapons are guaranteed drops, if you know any let me know so I can get started on them as well as adding a basic 'Acquire section for each main weapon page' 01:02, March 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Just add the section to all Legendaries. 01:04, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ok done a good few so far will carry on for abit.. also dont suppose you know how to create a subpage?? like the ones used for signatures, do i just go to my userpage, make a link to a page, click it and create it?? or is it the Create article link to the left of the screen?? 01:51, March 17, 2010 (UTC)