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Firehawk's "x6 proc"
I'm curious. Why did you revert the edit that corrected wrong information in Firehawk article? Where does this x6 proc misconception come from? WillowTree, GearCalc, in-game debuginfo, basic understanding of Borderlands' game mechanics and empirical testing will all prove it doesn't exist. Please, feel free to check it out yourself. - 91.153.22.204 07:49, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Don't talk down to me. First, I'm entirely aware that nothing proves that the gun procs up to x6. But considering that there are occasions where it's DOT is FAR beyond that of a normal x4, saying that the gun can go up to x6 is the best way to portray the extra DOT. The effect is mechanically correct with a x6 proc, and just like the game says, it will only indicate x4.

Also, you're not the only one here who has access to all the resources you mentioned. We have people that are far more experienced than you and I that have let that fact stand for YEARS. The game has been out since 2009, I think it's safe to say that we know what all the guns in the game do. 15:13, September 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Please, no ad hominems and contradictions if possible. Without going into details, you seem to acknowledge that it really isn't a x6 proc, but it's "the best way" to portray the weapon's stats? No, just no. Elemental multiplier != damage multiplier.


 * I'd say facts would be better than trying to represent weapon stats with an inexact, made-up system. Many of the elemental weapon articles on this wiki have imprecise, misleading information. I could start rewriting them (mostly adding elemental effect details on the mechanics section and clarifying what the flavor text actually does) if factual accuracy is preferred. - 91.153.22.204 16:11, September 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * ( The Evil Dr. F's note - the flavor text, in fact, does nothing)


 * I am not liking your tone, at all, dottwozerofour. Like Dr.F said, the flavor text does nothing. And yes, making a note of the extra damage with a "x6 proc", IS the best way to portray the missing link between the firehawk's massive DoT and lesser fire rate. (Because as I'm sure you know, incendiary damage stacks with every sucessful shot.)


 * Facts pertaining to a misleading system aren't really facts if they're wrong, are they? Noting the firehawk as x4 would be correct as far as in-game laws go. But considering that the firehawk does much more damage than every other gun that has x4 proc capability, it needs to be noted. And noting that it has the ability to proc to x6 is the best way to do that. It's more specific, and provides more information to those who choose to look into the issue. As opposed to just noting it as "increased elemental damage" or somesuch.


 * The mechanics sections are fine, as are the flavor text in all the articles. We don't need everyone chiming in with their own interpretations of the mechanincs/red text sections. Thank you. If you want to start making major changes to the wiki, I suggest doing the following, in the order specified.


 * 1. Watch your tone with me, and all other users on the wiki. "No, just no." and "Please, feel free to check it out yourself" after citing information that proves your being correct is NOT something I take kindly to. I told you to stop talking down to me, and you continued to do so. The next step is me ignoring you and undoing every change you make as a UC.
 * ( Dr. F's note - not required for editors/editing)


 * 2. Actually register as member of the wiki. Being a UC lends you ZERO credibility, as most times when someone is referred to by their IP, they are more than likely a nuisance that warrants the ban hammer.
 * ( Dr. F's note - not required for editors/editing)


 * 3. Make a forum page detailing all the changes that you would like to make to the articles on the wiki. Let the rest of the community chime in. At least that way, if the community approves, you can make your changes largely uncontested.
 * ( Dr. F's note - this would be nice. while not actually a "social network", wikia is a community and maybe not as learned as the sycophantic zealots of the gbxforums, though we do try.)


 * Do not make any more posts on my talk page until you've done so. Nohai.png 16:44, September 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * ( Dr. F's note - not required for editors/editing. think of this as a request.)


 * Also, the explanation to your problem had already been posted to the firehawk's talk page. But in case you come back to my talk page, please look here and here. Nohai.png 17:28, September 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * "Unlike revolvers, the Firehawk cannot do x2, x3, and x4 procs; it either hits for its normal bullet damage, or procs for x6. ... Every shot has a chance to proc for max elemental damage. In this case, max elemental damage is an extraordinary x6 (which, for fire, is 4.8x normal damage...)"  05:40, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * First off, I must apologize since I seem to have seriously offended you. Sorry. That was not my intention. I thought you might want to test it yourself since usually the word of an IP doesn't weight much on wikis. I hope we can get along. And thank you for your advice! However, I still prefer to remain anonymous behind proxy IPs. I did open a forum topic as you adviced, but at a quick glance, the forum seems to be full of gameplay-related posts, not of wiki changes...
 * The often quoted forum posts you link are original research and contain blatantly false information (Like nagy's quote here - revolvers and firehawk can both proc x1-x4. Again, damage multiplier is a variable. You can tell procs of different levels apart from their AoE size.) - 91.153.22.204 18:33, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Ninety-one, there was some name-calling early in the exchange that led to NOhara's nose getting out of joint, and I can't say that I blame him. You can certainly remain anonymous behind proxy IPs while creating an account. ("Twilight" is certainly not my given name.) I personally would love to see new original research and clarification, though I personally am not inclined to repeat Scottes' work. Dämmerung 18:39, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Questioning original research in an attempt to prove your point without bringing up your own information proves nothing. Nagy's quote is the only thing, aside from the links that I posted from the talk page, that have the slightest semblance of actual research. Your claims have been so far, entirely unsubstantiated. Besides, the issue has been settled anyway. It's simply done with. Thank you very much to everyone who has weighed in. 19:09, September 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Please bear with me a while longer. Like I mentioned at the beginning of this discussion, we have tools available that use the game data directly: In-game debuginfo, WillowTree and GearCalc. My claims come from these, and are verifiable in-game. Most of the in-game original research correlates with them, but research often gets the details wrong, like assuming elemental multiplier = damage multiplier. Doing original research before understanding game mechanics is the reason we have these old misconceptions such as firehawk's case. I'm not saying original research is wrong or bad, I'm just saying that a wiki should document facts taken directly from game data instead of approximations based on old original research. - 91.153.22.204 19:34, September 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Gearcalc and Willowtree do not use game data directly. They are original research, and they are neither exhaustive nor infallible. We already use both extensively, though (as you have observed) not infallibly.... Dämmerung 19:40, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * BTW, I'm happy to share the Gearcalc source datafiles with anybody who wants them. I haven't looked at WT in a long time-- got sidetracked on other projects-- but I still have the GC guts from back when I was going to hack a WTish thing. Dämmerung 19:41, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

We get it. There is info that says X4. Wonderful. The research says it's equivalent to a x6, if it existed. Both points are on the page itself. And old research is still valid considering it's an old game. End of discussion. Thanks for making that point, Daem. 19:47, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Question regarding revision
Good day sir! I am curious to why you revised my revision to Roland's trivia page? Just some background why I changed it, on my last convoy my TC was an E-3 and before that an E-4, which is why I changed it to ranking persons. HyperMetal3000 12:22, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * fair point. E-4 can be either NCO or not.  E-5 and above who can be troubled to mobilize being in short supply.   16:52, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Just for the sake of simplicity and to have the sentence read better. Ultimately it's inconsequential either way, one way is more specific than they other, but largely both ways establish the same meaning. Thank you for being civil in your inquiry. 22:00, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I left citations for every one of my posts. The little edits I made were just grammatical corrections. I really only posted that Maya wasn't a phasewalker, and I updated Eridium and Vehicles. I provided citations for each. Other than that, I don't know what you're talking about.

~!24.145.8.47MielikkisChosen

See the tags I left on the page. Those had no citation. 21:38, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Dahl page
I tyred "undoing" an edit made by the user TheApatheistic1 on the DAHL page and i dont think it worked. When i hit undo at the top of the page, it said one or more edits could not be undone. The user took the Logo pic out and replaced it with useless letters "&nbsp". I left a warning on his/her page. Im not entirely sure how to report vandalism. Just figured i would let someone know. 20:50, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

No worries, a warning would have sufficed in that situation. "&nbsp" is something that sometimes gets left over in wikia code as far as I've noticed. I'll have a look, thanks Lynne. 22:23, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

EDIT: Dr.F already took care of it. 22:24, September 13, 2011 (UTC)\

Ohh i thought it was some random letters they typed!! LOL Either way the pic didnt need to be removed. And thanks for telling me about the "warn" template, ill have to remember that and use it next time. :) 23:40, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

'&amp;nbsp;' is the HTML entity for non-breaking space. It is usually used to add spaces between text elements that would normally have only one space in between them. In HTML code, it doesn't matter how many spaces you put between two words, it always shows up as a single space when rendered. Adding '&amp;nbsp;' will cause more spaces to show up when rendered. Logisim 01:00, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome :)
Hi NOhara24, thank you for the welcome message. I asked a couple questions on a couple talk pages about level scaling in the DLCs. What is the best way to get answers to these questions? Musha Shukou 19:55, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

IIRC, level scaling is largely dependent on what DLCs you have and what playthrough you're on. If you have DLC3- the secret armory of general knoxx, and have beaten crawmerax, the enemies should scale all the way up to your level, assuming playthrough 2. By what you're describing, it still sounds like you're on playthrough 1. Starting playthrough 2 would allow the enemies to scale up to 51. 20:54, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Will they scale to my level or to Crawmerax's level? And would I need to beat him on PT1 or 2? Musha Shukou 21:02, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

They will scale to your level. And you'd need to beat him on PT2. Don't even waste your time going through the DLCs on PT1. 15:15, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Ok thank you. That answers my questions. :) Musha Shukou 23:49, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Simply finishing Knoxx main missions and haveing the credits roll and entering PT 2.5, will cause enemies to scale with your level. Killing Craw will cause enemies to scale to the max. If you are not yet at max level, you should avoid killing Craw untill you reach 69. Unless you wish to have a real challenge and face incredibly tough enemies. this is on Xbox 360 anyway. 00:47, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

Babies
EVERYONE wants to have my babies! This is why i dont have any. I would be in real trouble otherwise :P  23:05, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

My Mistake
It seems I was wrong yesterday, wasn't the first time exactly =D.

-- 04:05, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

This Userbox. I love it. 11:32, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * you's one ugly lady, deary. 19:27, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think Ricey was going for accuracy when he made the userbox. As you and I both Everyone knows, I'm rather dashing. 16:31, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Isnt it hard to tell when all your mirrors crack when you look into them. I would not know as i have no reflection :P 21:51, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

The Destroyer Article, krotera choosing to ignore the bulletin at the top of the page
On the Destroyer article: I suggest you learn to write before writing articles, let alone zealously defending their redundant, faulty syntax when it's edited. Krotera 00:19, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

I suggest you check the article history, as well as the definition of "zealous" before you get smart on my talk page. You were undone, twice, and then immediately edited after you chose to sandbox the page for a second time. This is a wiki. You will be edited. You will be undone. Deal with it. 13:00, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Links.
Sorry about not providing links but I can't exactly provide links when i removed the text, but if you do check out the IGN article, the quotaton in my edit summary is in the article just after the bit about splitscreen. 22:46, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

There I've added the fact that BL2 will not support splitscreen play and made it a link to the IGN article. 23:32, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. 17:38, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Thats a GOOD picture of you 204.210.198.73 07:44, October 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * What are you getting at exactly, dotseventhree? Nohai.png 22:46, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Spiderant Rivalry
I'm not 204.184.47.253, but the Bait And Switch mission description says ...I want you to take an abdomen from a rival Queen, then replace the bandits' with that one... so they may be familiar to the concept... DuckmanBR 17:52, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, fair. Go ahead and change it back then. Although it's noteworthiness will always be in question to me. 13:01, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

undo
i dare say you can do better than ''This "trivia" has been deleted before. Same name =! trivia.'' with iatbr gone it falls to me to overwatch the newcomers. you will explain such edits on the talk page of every user w/ <25 edits. summaries for policy reverts need state nothing more than the policy in question. 21:59, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Amalgamation
Yes! That makes 5! Honestly I discovered something while getting back into Borderlands, and wanted to check out the wiki. I actually adopted Dante's Inferno Wiki, and I do a lot of work there. Let me know if there is anything that needs getting done.

The Milkman 23:21, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

undo
insufficient summary. 22:07, November 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * im assuming you are rectifying the above. 17:39, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. 17:47, November 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * see that this lack of summary does not happen again. 18:11, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Remembered typing one upon making edit, it failed had to go back and try again. Summary didn't carry over. 19:12, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

help wanted
i'm sad to say that the wiki has lost its head greeter and liaison, due to some rather unfortunate circumstances. do you have any suggestions or nominations as to who might replace our lost greeter-bot? with BL2 coming up we will soon need all hands on deck (and can ill afford to lose any more solid editors).

21:43, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

CJ FOR GREETER.

But no, seriously. I nominate Veg if he's up for it. 00:41, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Hey now, I could be an excellent greeter. I can be polite if I were expected to be. Seriously. Plus, it seems relatively easy on a technical level and I've been looking for a way to contribute that suits my internet schedule a little better. 00:58, November 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * you don't think cj would make a good greeter? Hmm, I thought he would've done fine.

02:24, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the Nod, Buuutt, I have all the hats i can wear as it is. I will continue to greet people as i see the need but think you could ask Lynn1984, as well as CJ, if she would like to be head greeter. That is what she is already doing most of the time she is here. 03:18, November 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * ( Dr. Fs note - raz is nominally the head greeter. what we (and by we i mean I') are looking for is a liason to act as an advocate for and to encourage the continued participation of UCs and new users.)

The only reason I'm not seriously nominating CJ is that I think his role as "resident flamethrower" actually serves a purpose. I've had some experience with that role too, so I know that it can be fun, and I wouldn't want to take that from him by making him be nice to the UCs/Noobs that don't deserve it.

That being said, if CJ wants to put on the Liaison hat, I see no reason why he wouldn't. Although the "help wanted" sign will shift from the Liaison's desk to the Pyro's desk, as I don't see how someone can wear both of those hats and still be taken seriously at both positions. 20:58, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Pretty sure I'd only have to be nice when helping new RCs transition into being regular editors. After a certain amount of time and display of competency, I would think they and any other oldfag would be fair game. 20:13, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Maintenance
hey poppet, since the archives are going to be a regular thing.. atleast until the majority of the threads are moved.. have you taken notice of the recent change options? you can sort the recent activity. it may make it a little easier to view around the forumspam depending on what mama wants you to look after. eh? ehh? 22:03, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Haha, the rectangle with the two arrows pointing to it looks like a face...=| 17:14, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

EDIT: In all seriousness: holy crap does that make things easier. 17:23, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re:The Secret Armory of General Knoxx
I was deleting an edit made by an Wikipedia user in the billing options that said some pretty bad things. Ex, You fail at life, GFYS.

Salvadors skills
did ya notice anything special about one of his skills name :P 03:24, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yessir I did. It says right there in the article referenced that a lot of his skill names are based off movie quotes. "Come at me, bro." is ripped straight from the internets. 03:25, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Good stuff either way IMO. 03:27, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

gearbox time


A one month delay does not a "gearbox time" statement make. 03:13, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

The Fallen
Oh, lord. Was that terrible. As if Roland would ever have need of a Tediore legendary. I got the impression that Shirley had spent very little time in the game, if any.

I did laugh at Shirley's pastiche of the game's opening sequence. Unfortunately it went downhill quickly after that.

About all I can say for the novel is that the prose wasn't actually fan-fiction painful. But it was damned close. Set the bar sufficiently low that any fan-fiction writer shouldn't be discouraged by the presence of "professionals" (sarcasm quotes).

Shame on me for expecting anything more out of a video game novel, I suppose.

Yes, I am ranting. Dämmerung 16:08, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

I wasn't expecting much out of it, I didn't actually read the thing (thankfully), it was some poor UC that added that bit of Trivia to the Defender's page. I just re-worded it. Some games lend themselves for a spin-off. But those games have, you know, storylines. Maybe BL2 will be better story wise, but I don't see "Borderlands 2: The Fallen-ing-er" popping up on any best seller lists. 19:26, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Scooter
Even though one is named Scooter and the other Skeeter, it could be a play on words. There are other longshots of trivia that have stood the test of time. It seemed good to me and someone else saw the relation enough to add it the first time. If you truely think it is unworthy, call for its removal on the talk page. I will remove it again myself if that is what is decided, no problem. 19:42, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Will do. 20:16, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Said trivia has been nuked from orbit. 12:26, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

wikichat
so sorry i missed you. 21:26, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Category:
[[Category:The Running Man - The running man is an overproduced movie extraordinarily loosely based on a stephen king story. in the inevitable remake the lead should be played by tom cruise because, lets face it, the guy runs in _every_ damn movie he is in.  must be in his contract.  two birds, one stone.  nuff said?]]
 * i don't recall much him running overmuch in Born on the Fourth of July.  01:08, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what is going on,so here's a link to a pretty sweet fresh price of bel-air video. Nohai.png  12:15, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

one, two, three
 * price of bel aire has been drastically reduced by the current economic turn.

Well, I have no desire to watch that movie. Charlie done killed Tom Cruise. 16:18, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Undo
Isn't every entry in Borderlands pop culture references redundant with some Trivia item elsewhere in the wiki? Dämmerung 16:38, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 'tis. 16:46, January 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Most are, yes. But I see no reason not to attempt to mitigate that fact. Nohai.png 17:09, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

're
ty, dear. proofread mah homeworks, plz? :3 22:11, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Nothing like a perfectly structured sentence to help get your point across. :D  22:17, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Mr.Zekrom
thank you :)

I'm getting a real Don Marquis vibe
from a certain poster of recent advent.


 * expression is the need of my soul
 * i was once a vers libre bard
 * but i died and my soul went into the body of a cockroach
 * it has given me a new outlook on life

Would explain a number of the apparent communications challenges. Anyway, reading his posts in Archy's voice helps me. Dämmerung 21:36, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Specter mod
I'm not sure if you were offering, but if you have a Specter mod with ammo regen, I sure would like to hook up with you on PSN. I know alot of folks have moved on from the game for now, but I keep going back to it. I haven't found a game to keep my attention for long. 16:51, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

When I get my PS3 hooked back up I can look through my crap to see if I've got one. I'm on PC 99% of the time now. My PSN name is the same as here. 19:21, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

I sent you a friend request just in case you get that dusty ol' console hooked up and find that you have that mod. I'm farming the crap out of Helicon and so far the ***** has only dropped a couple crappy ones. She likes to drop crappy grenade mods and shields. I'm gonna make her suffer:-) 19:09, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

No worries. I hope to get back on soon. Steam is an easy download if you want to contact me there. 19:36, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm not that computer savvy. If I were comfortable transferring from PC to console, I'd just make me one. Also, our computer is my husbands and he'd accuse me of trying to get him a virus. He's very paranoid about that stuff. He just doesn't take BLANDS serious enough.:( 19:44, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

request
please stop deleting content from speculation pages. every time you do this all the admins look like monkeys putting the moves on footballs. 15:11, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

But that means that we aren't monkeys putting the moves on footballs. 17:03, February 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * that is the impression i would like give the users, yes.  21:35, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

But to clarify, that's what we are, yes? 00:36, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Separate-but-equal request: next time I see you online, remind me to admit that you were right. Dämmerung 17:33, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Me, right? I'm never right. 22:42, February 6, 2012 (UTC) Impossibru.
 * link

please disregard speculation pages and all trivia sections in matters of daily review(s). these will be monitored by other persons. 19:39, February 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * ^^^Never even read this did you?^^^

on the bright side
your opinion counts and carries more weight now. 00:26, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Ha. That's a good one. Didn't know a policy I'd spent over a year enforcing was a matter of opinion. 00:29, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * i was never able to convince you that admin is a janitor with a badge. i tried and failed.  the enforcer mentality is too deep in you, embrace the dark side.  i have better cookies. - The Ëvil Dr. F

Sorry. "A policy that I had taken into account and valued as a set-in-stone policy when editing pages for over a year." 00:44, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Hey bro
I am not gunna come at you... but I have to explain something. 14:40, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

And that is...? 14:43, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

The revisions you have been doing are changing the original authors speculation and inserting your own. Everyone is free to speculate on these pages and first dibs is first dibs. There is no way we should change the wording of speculation at all... minor grammer corrections only... Maybe just a little structure. If it is passible for Dr.F, He can clean it up. 14:49, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

I am so sry I am really tired... anyway, we have to be carefull not to change all the speculation on the wiki to our own. 14:51, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

The community still has to vote on the matter of speculation as a whole. I am doing nothing to change the whole of speculation, just making said speculation read better. End of discussion. 14:53, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Grrr... sry, Dr.F felt that you were changing original content/intent and told you not to edit it. You should have made him do it if he wanted it. Period. Dude, he is looking for a perm sys-ops and you were a main candidate! comn.

I had admitted to that in the past. That's the reason that there's the above conversation, titled "request" on my talk page. But the episode last night was nothing of the sort. I left the UC's contribution 100% intact, every point the UC made was there. I had just made it read better like I had said before. 14:58, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

There is something else you should know. Dr.F has been commissioned by Wiki Central Staff to come up with new ways to interact with the online community in general and draw in numbers. When I say numbers, Staff pays attention. Dr.F is largely allowing participation in an area that doesn't even have any facts. This is activity and membership. The community is in an uproar because clear wiki rules do not encompass this participation. I, for one, would work with Dr.F for a solution instead of working against him. It is easy to differentiate pages of speculation from pages of facts. 15:12, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Good for you then. But I'm dealing with the issue at hand here, that being speculation pages, in article namespace, looking like a talk page. 15:15, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Your trying to deal AROUND it. Not deal WITH it. 20:00, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Wrong. 20:15, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about the argument
I didn't mean to start an argument on your request for admin page. The neutral part was not there when I edited and I made multiple entries because it made more sense. I was not trying to get my point across more or anything.

Between the two of us, we both have to get the last word in and I am tired about argueing. Sometimes what we argue about is more important to me than others. This last time was not that big a deal, I have no idea why I got my back up so hard. I suppose I still dont understand why everything went so far (I just got back).

Dont you guys bring up forums when things get rough? Anyway, I was just putting in a bid for neutral. I didn't mean to start anything. 04:17, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Doesn't matter. Damage is done. Hollow apology noted. My only advice to you is to start taking some responsibility for your posts. 18:09, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

I always pay for my stupidity. That is not why I am apologizing. I am apologizing because we BOTH need the last word in, and I am sorry for my part in perpetuating that. Even now you can get me to type by claiming its a hollow apology LOL. We are a bit hopeless, and I would like that to change. 19:11, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Fresh air
I honestly hope you are not leaving forever. I am sure no one, including Myself, wishes for you to leave. Please reconsider, if that is what you are planning to do. 02:47, February 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * oh, he shall be back. i have my ways. ;3 05:00, February 14, 2012 (UTC)

Everybody needs a break now and then. And this ain't a particularly bad time to take a break. Dämmerung 05:04, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

My stupidity
I owe everyone's talk page an apology but it happened during your rfa so I will give you a specific one. I dont know exactly what you mean by more responsibility but if your looking for an explanation, I dont have much of one. I had all the symptoms of the flu but I never threw up and never got queezy. Just lightheaded to dizzy, and feeling from run down to total exhaustion. I have no idea what it was. It lasted for about 3 days. I had a fever, no idea what actual temp. I tend to think it was a combination of things. I work in a freezer and had bronchitis flair up with lack of sleep, extra work and binge on chocolate (my diet sucks anyway)? I definitely was delusional. No doubt about that. I would sleep for a couple hours(no idea actual time) and get up and edit, when I wasnt editing, I was reading then I would go back to sleep.

Delusions: There was a time when I imagined that everything was turning into some type of overthrow. From some of the wording going around, I definitely jumped at shadows. I saw admins and RC security (my term for a RC who takes on the role of an admin in certain areas, they are trusted users and could become an admin if they had the desire but they tend to balance the power of admins and crats) saying bunches of negative things (about the idea, I know that now) and suggesting that Dr.F was abusing his power(I understand that was meant as pushing his luck on that subject).

More Delusions: I linked the overthrow to technicalities in wiki hierarchy (of which, I have very little actual knowledge, i might add) over speculation pages. I somehow imagined that a single contributor could have dominion over parts of the wiki, and determined that this was the answer to the overthrow.

Like I said, not much of one. I am still in shock.

When thing like that happens to me (excuses on being drunk, sick, whatever) and I say things that I wouldn't normally say, I do not just blow it off. I spend quite a bit of time in introspection. I always have to ask myself questions, even though I might know the answer right away, I still have to look at it.

Some of the questions I have been asking myself is: Do I really think my opinion is better than everyone elses on the wiki? The answer is that we all do, that is why we have one, but then how important are other opinions compared to my own? I mean, do I really want to take care of the wiki on my own with no co-operation? It was the most absurd thing I have ever done.

More questions: Do I value UC opinions (read edits) over RC opinions? The answer is no, UC's opinions are equal but they must speak up. They add good content but need trimmed (for the most part). Anything outside of that is definitely a community decision. Again, I was being absurd.

I will not bore you with all the introspection.

I will just apologize for that here as well as my tenancy to argue with you. 23:57, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * iatbr delusional?    07:29, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Retired?
Are you really retiring? for good? In the middle of an RFA of all things? I was going to give you my support after the heat died down. I realize these long disputes on wikis can take their toll on users, but I would hate for us to loose a good editor like you. You are both skilled, and have a fun personality I've come to appreciate. You have always put content first, no matter the cost, and I respect that. The Borderlands wiki wouldn't be the same without you anymore. I especially hate it when an editor up and quits because of a dispute: it is a net loss for the wiki. I think I can talk for everyone when I say we want you back. Take all the time you want, if you need room to cool down, but when Borderlands 2 will come out in a couple of months, I hope we'll be able to count on you as a regular editor then, and potentially an admin. happypal (talk &bull; contribs) 11:08, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

+1 11:11, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

the tentative return of nasty nick?
can it be so? has the dark knight returned? is there hope for the vault hunters? tune in for moar. same blands time. same blands channel. 22:40, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

I for one, would like you to consider returning. Despite what you may think, we could use and want your help with all the BL 2 content that sure to come this way. No one( that i know of, well maybe the UC's :P ) wanted you to leave, so please think about coming back more often. 00:46, July 29, 2012 (UTC)

I happened to stop by and saw an example of an egregious edit. Like, seriously, that one was worth signing in and purging from the wiki. Almost considered fixing all the pronouns in that article too, but it wouldn't have mattered. Some dumbass UC would have come in and either redone it or added another terrible note to the article that would have gone unnoticed for months (See: Article: Chopper: Notes) "If you...you will...you from...you shoot...you could..." that STILL hasn't been fixed even though obviously someone noticed that I made an edit on that article. When the wiki starts pulling it's own weight, instead of tagging things and waiting for someone else to come by and fix them, I'll get out and push. Till then, consider me Nero. I'm tuning my fiddle now. 04:36, July 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * You're setting the right example :( happypal (talk &bull; contribs) 10:20, July 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I take that back. While I don't agree with your conclusion, I get where you are coming from. It sure is lonely around here without you, and I think I can say for all we'd like you back. You have nothing to prove you know. happypal (talk &bull; contribs) 15:13, July 29, 2012 (UTC)



My ego has been fed enough. Be careful what you wish for. /cryptic  07:10, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yay! He's back! I wish I could help more on your battles against bad prose, but I'm not an expert myself. I was planning to take a moment and work on the Chopper. If you look at the history of any weapon page, you'll notice that after virtually ALL of my "U & D" edits, you proof read my crap. I'll make an effort to be bolder in the future, but I can only upgrade from bad to mediocre myself... :( happypal (talk &bull; contribs) 11:20, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

I do recall the U&D project being started by you and finished by myself, so it's not a big deal anyway. But regardless, if you see a page with pronouns, just fix it when you see them. I'd rather not be fighting an endless wave of poorly-written sentences, seeing as I'm the only one who goes out of their way to do it. 11:23, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

GBX talk
User_blog:Dr._Clayton_Forrestor/GBX_dev(s)_%26_The_Evil_Dr._F  01:44, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

read and revise at your leisure
A slightly more organized effort at attacking the BL2 enemies navbox. User:Nagamarky/Scrapbook. 16:15, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Made some changes, added what I could remember off the top of my head. I'll keep it in mind for future editing. 00:19, October 4, 2012 (UTC)