Talk:Eridian Weapons

There is a MUCH more convenient way of checking on Eridian weapon ammo capacity, recharge delay (both the overheat delay which is when you've emptied the ammo, and the delay after you simply stop firing before running the clip dry), and recharge rate: make a hotkey that displays the debug info. The relevant debug info command is: dbm_ToggleShowDebug Eno Khaon 06:32, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Eridian Gun Level
I have a level 49 Wave Blaster, so im not sure what that should be put in


 * Just wanted to confirm that I have one too. I assume it's the same as the Eridian Blaster? Don't have one to compare right now.--Wang Foolio 21:44, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Level requirements
All my Eridian weapons on my xbox drop from 19 to 17 and 28 to 26 level requirements while they're equipped but return to normal when unequipped......


 * Unfinished feature. You only get the real level requirement when it's unequipped. --Lagged 01:33, February 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Weapon proficiencies were supposed to reduce level requirement. The feature was eventually scrapped for box release, but the numbers still show up even though they don't matter. --Nagamarky 11:32, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Recharge rates, continued
On the Eridian Lightning page, there are two level 46 versions, the 1001 and the 1110, which have 481 and 520 damage, respectively. At least with my Thunder Storms, the higher damage gun had a smaller effect magazine capacity. Anyone else seen something to this effect? --Lagged 06:49, November 6, 2009 (UTC)


 * Likely coincidence; a higher damage version can also have a large capacity. Use the debug display to check capacity (and recharge values) for Eridian weapons so we can stop with the guessing games. Also, are those guns actually level 46, or did some chuckleheads take screenshots with the weapons equipped so their proficiency was reducing the req level on level 49 weapons? -- Eno Khaon 19:24, November 6, 2009 (UTC)


 * You've figured out a lot more than I have on these things. I've actually got level 46 guns, but they only appear that way if thrown on the ground. Oddly, the console marks them as level 48 guns, and when I equip it, it shows up as level 43.


 * Weapon proficiencies were supposed to reduce level requirement. The feature was eventually scrapped for box release, but the numbers still show up even though they don't matter. --Nagamarky 11:32, February 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * My cannons had the same clip size, but different recharge rates. Oddly, my Thunder Storms had different clip sizes, but the same recharge rate. --Lagged 19:56, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

From part replacement tests. --Nagamarky 09:39, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Someone knows if amu-regen also works on Eridians? -- Cocofang 14:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Consolidating some raw data here
There's more on the Cannon page.

Archetype		ID 		Model number 	Body 	Grip 	Mag	Barrel		Sight 		Stock 	Acc	Damage 	Clip	Reload 	Ovrheat	Fire delay Cannon			Eridian 0100 	101001 		2 	5 	1 	5_Cannon	1 No zoom	5 	2 	1211 	100	2.0 	4.0 	1.3 Cannon			Eridian 0100 	10001 		4 	6 	1 	5_Cannon	2 Wht zoom	2 	5 	1211 	100	2.6 	4.0 	1.3 Cannon			Eridian 0101 	10011 		4 	2 	3 	5_Cannon	1 No zoom	2 	2 	1559 	83	2.6 	2.8571 	1.3 Cannon			Eridian 0101	10011		4	6	3	5_Cannon	2 Wht zoom	2	2	1559	83	2.6	2.8571	1.3 Cannon			Eridian 0101	101011		5	1	3	5_Cannon	1		5	2	1559	83	2.0	2.8571	1.3 Cannon			Eridian 0101	101110		2	1	6	5_Cannon	1		5	5	1559	120	2.0	2.6667	1.3

Thunder Storm		Eridian 0010 	100 		5 	5 	4 	6 		1 No zoom	None 	4 	148 	200 	1.5385 	5.2 	1.3 Thunder Storm		Eridian 0100 	11 		3 	6 	3 	6 		1 No zoom	None 	6 	202 	83 	1.5385 	2.8571 	1.3 Thunder Storm		Eridian 0101 	11 		6 	4 	3 	6 		1 No zoom	None 	6 	260 	83 	1.5385 	2.8571 	1.3 Thunder Storm		Eridian 0101	10		3	1	2	6		1		None	4	260	130? 1.5385	4	1.3

Eridian Blaster	       Eridian 0100	100100		2	6	4	4_Blaster	4 Wht zoom 	4	4	152	200	2.4	5.2	1.3 Eridian Blaster	       Eridian 0101	100011		6	4	3	4_Blaster	4		4	4	195	83	2.4	2.8571	1.3

Eridian Lightning	Eridian 0101	1110		3	6	6	1		2 Wht zoom	1	1	520	120	2.0	2.67	1.3

Inventory bouncing
When you have multiple Eridian guns in your inventory and start selling other things, the Eridians seem to bounce around, like the result of an unstable sort. This might suggest that their name modifiers are actually NULL, since my Lightnings were swapping with my Thunder Storms and Cannons. This also unfortunately suggests that the visible name is completely unrelated to the gun's stock, scope, or damage. Does anyone else see this behavior? I don't think I've seen this with the other guns. --Lagged 18:08, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Most noticeable with Eridian weapons, but it has happened to me numerous times with all weapons.--LeesusFreak 20:40, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

This happens to me a lot with Equalizers and Defilers (Yellow Revolvers)


 * This is because their parts have the same rarity. Since guns are sorted by rarity, they are allocated their place in your inventory as one whole bunch of guns, which are then shuffled around at random because it doesn't matter. --Nagamarky 11:32, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

user opinions?
why do we even need user opinions?Dr Rawr 00:29, November 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * Holdover from the original Eridian weapons page. I've been slowly trying to phase it out, honestly. --Lagged 00:35, November 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * Went ahead and cut it, taking a few choice pieces out and integrating it into the main text. --Lagged 00:48, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Ive found an eridian wave blaster thats not on the table, but i cant tell which body it is.... - Sacranity

Special gun parts
I was messing around with n gun creator and found n special eridian sniper berral that looks like n pole with spikes on the end and also n front that looks like n bee hive with n piece going of to the body of the weapon that looks like jou could hang it over jour shoulder. Would post pic but not n member.

Did enyone find somthing like that?

Want to know if there are special parts for the sight,stock,grip,body,accessory and maby more special body's.

-- 196.25.255.194


 * You likely found the unfinished(?) Eridian guns, like the Acid Storm or the Fire Storm. They don't drop in-game, but might for the DLC. --Lagged 19:36, November 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * I can confirm this. And I can also confirm that all the unreleased Eridian Weapons are rather useless. ···  Danny  Pew   Pew   21 December 2009 (UTC)

Functionality as a treasure finder
Didn't see anything about this in the discussion. I checked to see if Eridian weapons truly could help you find weapon caches, it doesn't seem to work. The magazine does light up whenever I point the gun in any of the cardinal directions, however, so that seems much more likely to me. I'm running this on an Xbox 360, fully patched, offline. I only go online to download patches and DLC. 71.82.99.148 17:42, December 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * After testing these weapons for over an hour I can say that they only point at the cardinal directions and occasionally the NW ect. directions. -- TOXICMOOSEDOG13


 * Because I'm lazy to post on gbx forums, I'll do it here. I've just tested all six Eridian magazines on the Lightning, in Rust Commons East and New Haven. Cardinal directions don't work, chest-detection doesn't work. --Nagamarky 09:26, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

doesnt it just change colour at points at 90 degrees from each other? Roboticsuperman 17:59, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, some have reported that it lights up in the cardinal directions, i.e. north south east west or at most a slight deviation from them --Nagamarky 18:20, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Have you tested the various types of Eridian weapons? It's quite possible that they have different hidden attributes. ···  Danny  Pew   Pew   8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Haven't bothered to, but will get down to it sooner or later. --Nagamarky 18:39, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Could it be pointing to the 4 cardinal directions and the NW location being the vault?--Kylis 20:53, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Class skills
mmm... do the individual weapons get treated like their respected weapon types (IE: lighting cannons benefit from the berserker's rocket launcher skills, thunderstorm benefits from soldiers scattershot) or are they all treated as their own weapons category? (little confused since hunters treat pistols and revolvers the same way, wondered if it was like that) Also, first eridian lighting i found always seems to deal continuous shock damage (elemental proc), even though they do not specify shock element can i assume that lilith's (and class mods as well) increase the eridian weapon's damage? Skyroskus 09:58, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Eridian weapons have their own proficiency and therefore their own 'type'. Mordecai's sniper buffs and roland shotgun/assault rifle buffs and so on do not affect them. However, skills that affect all weapons such as Lilith's 'high velocity' will affect them. Also, I think it is a reasonable assumption that Lilith's tempest mod will affect any lightning damage eridian weapons, although some (eridian blasters in particular) seem to not deal lightning damage.

Steel crab 15:45, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sight 6
Someone just posted that sight 6 has no zoom; can anyone else confirm this? I don't have any guns with that scope left, but I do recall it zooming in. --Lagged 23:28, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

They all seem to have a zoom, although the zoom seems to be low my guess would be roughly 1.0-1.5. None of them have a scope. You can have zoom without a scope.

Speculation in the article

 * I have tested this theory, and yes, on the Xbox 360 version of Borderlands, Eridian weapons will point in the compass direction of a weapon chest from the nearest New-U station. For instance, if there is a weapon chest north of a New-U station, pointing the weapon north will make the magazine turn red. Uncle Jimbo13 03:33, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

I removed this from the article and put it in here. Refers to this. Kids need to learn how to write in a wiki ... -- Cocofang 13:17, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Chest or no chest they point in the North, South, East, West directions.

The Eridian Sniper Rifle - does it shoot twice?
I just got an Eridian Lightning while farming, and have reason to suspect that it shoots twice in a row, very quickly. Everyone knows the Jakobs gas container - looking things, right? The ones that if you shoot 6 or 7 times, they explode? Well, if you shoot them with ANY weapon (even Rocket Launchers), each bullet counts as one hit against it, and you can tell how many bullets you've hit it by the number of shots. After you shoot it thrice, a stream of yellowing gas begins to leak from it. Five times, and a second yellowish leak. Sixth time, a third, and you know that one more bullet will make this thing explode.

However.. When you shoot it with the Eridian Lightning, 1 bullet damages it but makes no Yellowish leak.(2/7 destroyed). A second shot gives it one yellowish leak (4/7 destroyed, just passed 3/7 which is where first leak occurs. 5/7 and 6/7 are the next ones). Then, a third shot produces TWO leaks (6/7 destroyed, simultaneously passed 5/7 while reaching 6/7, causing 2). This all leads me to believe that it shoots two close bullets that fly side by side to reach a target.

To recap: a gas container has 7 health, and it loses one health per every bullet that hits it, no matter what type of projectile (even elemental and rockets hit only once). When it has 4 health remaining, a gas leak springs, and another at 2 and one last at 1. When shot with the Eridian Lightning, it removes two health from it at once, which cannot happen normally because each bullet only does one damage to it. The only possible explanation here is that either the ELightning shoots 2 bullets, or that this is a glitch. Thoughts? Beetle179 20:47, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

The thing is that Eridian Sniper Rifle does not shoot 2 projectiles at once, but bears an always proccing Shock element, and when you shoot smth it delivers 2 hits - with "projectile" and Shock effect.Sinael 15:31, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Orange 101101 Mega Cannon
Gmoneyy 20:11, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Assuming you are not the poster of the original image in the article, you have changed my status from "not buying it" to "skeptic." Is there anyone else able to confirm or deny the possibility of such a weapon? 71.82.99.148 01:02, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

Purple?
I've heard rumors of Purple Eridian weapons, as within the new DLC, but I've yet to come across any actual proof. Can someone confirm or disprove? I had my doubts of Gold Eridians until I came to this page and saw the picture. I've never seen any of the "New" eridian weapons drop from Crawmerax though, and I've killed him a good 20 times.

I also have a Eridian Mega Cannon (orange), however I didn't get it from Crawmerax, it happened to drop from a Crimson Lance soldier in the arena place (Can't remember the name). Haven't seen any purple Eridian weapons though.