User talk:Dr. Clayton Forrestor




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"maybe not a whole planet . . .id settle for a forest moon . . . with ewoks to shoot (heh, heh)Dr. Clayton Forrestor 10:41, December 2, 2009 (UTC)" =Welcome= Hi, my screen name is Dr. Clayton Forrestor. you can call me Dr. F. i am a sysop (administrator) for this wikia. if i can be of service in any way please contact me. enjoy. -->

Minions of Dr. F
Darkseide

A LB gamer

The Chatting Sysops
DR. F is available for chat on aim/google user = DrCForrestor - on xfire = drclaytonforrestor and skype = The_Evil_Dr_F

is available as thedarkestmeepit on google

is available as Fenrakk101 on google
 * I prefer MSN over AIM =P 18:50, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

can be reached via email at fryguy42@gmail.com. Xfire and Steam chat services are also available.

=Glossary of (un)familiar terms= drop your term here and someone will define it.

shotty: shotgun

DPS: damage per second

proc: Proc is a common term used primarily in game programming to refer to an event - a "procedure" - triggered under particular circumstances.

stack: end result is additive (+150% critical damage from sniper rifle stacks with mordecai's +6% critical damage from deadly skill)

DOT: damage over time

area of effect: "splash damage" non-point focal damage over area

FPRPG: first person role playing game

Flinch: is when you shoot an enemy and they temporarily stop, like how shooting a charging Badass Psycho enough can make it stop for a moment.

Non-Trigger Damage: bullet and rocket damage only, not elemental (proc:see above) damage. directed damage not involving DOT or area of effect. this term was made up by a user for use on his/her forum and should in no way be considered a gaming term

Accuracy Recovery: this is the time it takes your sights to stop wavering and give you an _accurate_ sight picture.

construct: a weapon/item put together in WT so that it is legit however it has all parts geared for a purpose (damage, tech, ROF, recharge, regen, power)

WT: Willowtree

ROF: Rate of fire

namespace: user namespace

mainspace: main namespace

speedloader: the half/full moon clips depicted in the game, used to load revolver, shotgun and sniper cylinders.

clip: incorrectly used to replace magazine. unfortunately due to the ignorance rule it is more widely used and must be trained out of initiates into the military, arms and/or munitions industries and those choosing to speak coherently. (does gearbot actually use the words "clip size" for magazine size?)

The Fudd: the seeming dance performed by players sorting through craw or loot-n-the-box drops. slowly moving, weapon in hand, looking down or directly ahead. "be vewy kwyette, im hunting ___"

aggro: short for aggravate, is an internal measurement for how much of a threat the AI considers an individual player to be. The more aggro a player holds, the more highly that player will be prioritized for attacks and skill usage by the AI. Commonly misused instead of the term "pull" (i.e. aggro that enemy = pull that enemy).

kite: staying at a distance, using ranged attacks, and running whenever the enemy comes near. the player doing the kiting leads the enemy around.

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DR.
A, Dr.F, are you a real Dr., or is that just your screen name?
 * i am in fact not a doctor of any kind. dr clayton forester was a character from war of the worlds and on mystery science theater 3000, a tv show on comedy central and the sci-fi channel. 17:47, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it's time you should see Dr. F about ENGORGE!! He'll prescribe to almost anyone. Daemmerung 18:37, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Signatures
Do only sysops,moderators or admins get unique custom signatures? ☻BLObOrt☻ 16:18, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

No, Any user can have a custom signature if they wish, there is a section on my talk page which tells you how, look for Claptraps post< 16:58, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

j-nox is correct. anyone can have a custom sig. make a page with your sig. then make a page refering to the first. enter the second page into your preferences pane for signature. it is preferable to have these pages under your user:namespace (such as user:blobort/sig & user:blobort/sig/prefs) 20:20, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Borderlands 2
*cough* This ignores the high likelihood of a "Borderlands 2 Wiki". -- WarBlade 07:42, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * aha! i have you at last!  borderlands 2 already defaults here!  ha ha, you fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
 * *cough* Highfive... anyone...?? :D 08:12, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Here comes the flood
Of new guys. All able men to the portside armaments! Batton down the article hatches! You called it though. ;)GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 18:29, September 27, 2010 (UTC)}}

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start here

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MESSAGE
HI!! *Shoots guns around randomly* You told me to leave you a message so here ya go. Ishimura Elite 17:07, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

This is a headline
sorry I went offline there. Had to log out of Steam. I do hope that the halloween thing lasts until tomorrow. If not I'll just surf instead. Also, is there a Minecraft server for this wiki? (as in this set of people. The fun things that we would get up to...)

01:27, November 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * i know bukkit plays minecraft. 02:54, November 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * (bukkit invented minecraft.) 23:15, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re: aching the Cake
I honestly don't know, never having played Portal. It was there already, I just reworded it and added the link (Or tried to anyway) Idk why but I keep getting the Target page bar and text to display bar jumbled up.

The Milkman 21:08, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * its more of a remember the format kinda thing i believe, ie - portal or portal 02:46, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

You do get a little pic of the cake at the end of a hallway with the platforms on the railway... right before the crematorium. 04:07, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

pre-emptive strike
before the official borderlands forums lay claim to all BL2 content i am throwing down the gauntlet in the arena of content inspiration and reference: see and the nlwi's.
 * Salvador's Sexual Tyrannosaurus skill is totally me!

23:13, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * GBX owns whatever they can say was created by or for their copyrighted game. hence pearlescent (vice ultra white or cyan).  i, for one, would not be surprised to see a Crow's Nest in the new game.  or a behind the wall spawning arena like 5th Column.   01:13, November 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * doc straightface is sans fun vice doc f. *gasface 208.54.7.134 02:34, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

TFC not installing
hey doc, i recently DL'ed the 5th column, and i went to run the installer and it couldn't find anything to do w/ my install directory, can you help me by either telling me what to do or emailing me the files and the ones for the scrap hole (and The Abandoned Badlands (if you have it))(w/ a text document telling me where to put the files). because i really wanna play TFCand the others that I specified. 03:45, November 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * if you have the steam copy of the game i cannot help at this time unless there is an update to the thread linked. for vanilla install i recommend (being the type not prone to trusting installers) unpacking the files with 7zip and placing them in a working folder C:\Anywhere. and then copy/pasting them to the willowgame folder by hand. if needed i may have a compressed drag and drop version i could send via raptr. let me know which. 03:47, November 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * note - steam patch is incompatible w/ dr. zed patch
 * I've got the vanilla game, and why can't you send me a message w/ the email user function, and then i'll reply so you can actually attach a .rar file with all the files i need (just sayin that, because i'm outta net at home and i can DL the files at school w/ the email that i use here (it's a different address to my raptr one (and unfortunately, i cant access raptr, or the email address that is connected to my raptr acct @ school))). 04:03, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

ah, i see. two of my email addresses are stated on my talk page under chatting sysops. ill see about finding that file then. 04:40, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

secret forum police

 * see Forum:Dein_SS_auf_der_forums

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Case and point
I've told him how to make a forum topic in his address bar, seeing as how your leaving a box and button to make a new forum topic DIRECTLY ON HIS TALK PAGE went ignored, and repeated to him (as you and other already had) to fix his sig in his preferences. Veg and I have directed him to the wiki editing help page a total of 5 combined times now. I don't think this user is stupid. I can be patient with stupid. Like I said in my response to you on my talk page, it's a matter of him just not following directions, which there is no matter of carrot or stick that can remedy. This is my frustration. 23:13, November 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * this sounds like a job for (da dum dadaa!) . . . someone else.


 * sigh* As you wish.  23:23, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Not particularly important
But if no one minds or sees it as a form of spamming, I was thinking I could take sometime to periodically bump the forum topics that have been dropped of the mainpage queue due to the archives project back to the top, so that they may be more easily tracked by any new or inexperienced users that created or contributed to them. Athannay had remarked that he thought his topic was deleted, likely due to it no longer being on the mainpage where he oculd see it before, so I thought it may be helpful for peeps in his place. Anyway, worth my time/unnecessary/spammy? 20:04, November 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * for the non archives? sure, knock y'self out. we are waiting to see if mr holmes is willing to seek/follow help or is in fact a troll. if the latter you and NOhara may proceed w/ flamethrowers. otherwise yes. a :bump w/ bump summary makes perfect sense. 20:10, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

I can bust out my flamethrower again?! OH WONDROUS DAY! 19:01, November 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * this does in no way relieve you of your primary duty of daily review(s). you may think of every edit i make that is not to a talk or forum addressing me personally as a failure on your part.

I know that I'd still be hall monitor, but if every edit missed is a "failure", you can get someone else to do the daily reviews. It's impossible for me to spend every waking second on the wiki and get to every single edit before you do. I review the edits at a minimum of once per day (between the hours of 6-7AM my time because the wiki is actually quiet then), often doing much more than the original "5 minutes a day" as originally stated in my job description.Not to mention the Archives Project going on does make my job significantly harder because it's difficult to see what's actually going on.

I'm a student first, Assistant Project Manager second, Wiki Admin third. I doubt you would have any discrepancies with how my priorities are arranged. And if you do, fine. I'll drop out of here faster than Robot. 15:20, November 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * you might want to promote ladies' man, gamer, and some others to a priority above wiki admin. abstractions should come in behind providence and objectives.  also we should have established conditions on your job like making allowances for overhaul spam and losing key wiki personnel.  just please be nice to the new users.  rigidity and hostility do not a good sysop make.   18:01, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't say that I'd be hitting fun button on the flamethrower, I'm just happy that it's acceptable for display above the fireplace in the living room in the Asteroid again. I polished it and everything.

Overhaul spam is something that I'm trying to work through, not that I'm actually reviewing every single one of those (I don't need to review Veg, Raz, or Fatman, they're all established editors in their own right.) it just clogs the activity feed. Worst robot's presence notwithstanding, I understand that talking to a sysop is supposed to be a pleasant experience, not that I haven't tried to make it one as of late. 18:57, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Also, Ladies man always comes fourth. Internet is serious business. 19:07, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

-Carnage edit
Saw the undo for the carnage page-

So even though it has the carnage effects, because it's a variant of the Bulldog (and always has that title) the current stats have to stay?

As somebody who's been collecting the things for a while, would it be fine to put the higher stats into trivia or something so anyone else interested would know that there are better models out there? 00Average 03:28, November 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * it is noted on the bulldog page. putting it on the carnage page would be misleading as a ^(legitimate) twenty round carnage will always be named bulldog. 03:37, November 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Kk; hadn't realized 1.9 rof was the top fire rate for vanilla bulldogs too. Figured the combo carnage/bulldog max would be swallowed up by better stats on a standard 'dog.  I'll do more crossreferencing next time. 00Average 04:20, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

not a problem. it is the best carnage and arguably the best bulldog in the game so i understand your interest. 14:42, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

greeter/reply

 * Sorry for being nosey, but I just wanted to say Doc, that I do care about making new users feel welcome. It is one of the things that i love about this wiki compared to others i have visited. That said, the reason " I " dont greet as many users anymore is that I am confident that Lynn is going to come along and greet them. This gives me the ability to concentrate on other projects and the like. In fact, I kinda depend on Her for it. I Too, am glad to have you, Lynn, as a member of this wiki and the greet team for this very reason. --Veggienatersml.png 04:12, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thanks for the message Dr.F!! I love Borderlands, and love the fact that there are always new people picking the game up and giving the addiction a try. Im happy to help. 15:05, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Talk: Equalizer
"needs help, in the worst way"

Yeah, I noticed the missing tag message and added one. Judging by the state of the references, it's been missing for a while...

M0RGION 10:34, December 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * many were deleted probly b/c they appeared to not be used. there should also not be images anywhere but the table.  oh well, theres plenty of work there for someone.   11:08, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

question everything you are told
i have noticed that the more people wikia hires and puts on staff, the more they seem to need to add features which supposedly do more but in reality give me less. for those of you who remember the monaco side bar, that was the best feature we had, new kids - imagine the topnav on the left and had as many mouseover rows as desired. just remember kids just b/c its new doesnt mean its better. for example OS X Lion and iOS5, two New and Improved "products" that were and remained vastly inferior to their predecessors. for the not so young see: WinVista and every IE since 5. the more vehemence you perceive in the message given the more i caution you to criticize what is being said in your "single-serving newscast." that said. a subtle message repeated over and again seemingly of little importance is more insidious still. the latter slips into the hind-brain unnoticed and unhindered by reason. wikia is just _a_ community, and ad supported @ that, however comma thats no reason we cannot learn from what we experience here. in a week i get 3 or 4 of the above notives mixed with the rest being a more accurate daily count. no explanation of the discrepancy, just a gentle deprecation that wikia staff can help raise that shameful zero (presumably on the off days).


 * The more "They" try to improve things, the more things there are to go wrong . --Veggienatersml.png 02:57, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

dec. 8 = Today Borderlands Wiki was viewed by 43190 people.

Was that the "official" count, or the special page? 12:19, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * neither. i got that number in an email like the one pictured above.   12:45, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

the count has been >0 for over a fortnight now. 30 - 50k / day, not to put too fine a point on it. have you had similar reports?

03:00, December 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * i have. this issue may have been addressed (properly).   05:20, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

My User page
My first vandal on my user page. Ialmost feel honored. :P 22:42, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Hi I was the contributor that made some of the long winded tips and tactics suggestions on the pages that were removed for being too long or specific, I will work on them on my page for the time being as I play more and tinker around with them. Capt. Flail
 * welcome to the fight Cap'n. i look forward to it. similar project here. 07:57, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

"no rush"
NAOOO!!! PLOXXXXX!!!!! 00:32, December 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * kid said hes got shit to do.  05:56, December 16, 2011 (UT

nurse, i'll need the m-99 and the large scalpel. stat. we need to excise all of the fun from this comment asap!

dr. seriousface strikes again.

03:12, December 17, 2011 (UTC)
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RE: recent images
Sorry, didn't see that. Should I re-upload them? If so, how do I delete the old ones from the wiki? Auntarie 17:57, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

So what do I put on the images to tag them for deletion and what category do the new ones fall into? Auntarie 06:55, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

wei \o thanks a lot :D if i need something i will ask you ;)

wikichat
so sorry i missed you. 20:42, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Seek Out Tannis edits
Just wondering, how come you removed my reference to Raiders Of The Lost Ark on the Seek Out Tannis page? I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong, I'd just like to understand the reason. Plenty of other pages make note of the game's various movie references, so why not that one?--Leigh Burne 14:19, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * reply available here.  23:31, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I saw it, thanks. That's fair enough.--Leigh Burne 08:31, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Special request
Hello, Sir Dr. F. Is there any way I could talk you into creating me a user box with your awesome "skull/gun/ light saber" pic and "This user likes to kill stuff"? I figure it can't hurt to ask. I kinda have a thing for skulls:) Thanks.PrissyB*tch 04:18, January 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. That's better than I hoped! And quicker than expected! Muchly appreciated!PrissyB*tch 05:13, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

yw. ;D

Weapons page is locked
Requesting an unlock, even a temporary one. It's missing some obvious things, like a link to item card. I promise to vandalize this page in only the most considerate fashion. Dämmerung 19:08, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * protection = UC only. if you can see note atop edit in source it is just a reminder of how special you all are to me.   21:21, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Kthxbye. Here comes a special boy!   Dämmerung 22:01, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Continuing my pants party parts party, I need Sniper Rifles unlocked, doc. This time it really is locked. Dämmerung 21:23, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Special Effect(s)
Disrespectfully submit that you move Speshul Uffects back to Crippled where it belongs.

For everything else, see User:Daemmerung/Daze, which lists every infernal affliction that I could remember. If anything else belongs on that page, let me know. I'm planning on populating its contents tonight. Dämmerung 00:56, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, it's mostly all there. Still needs pictures-- perhaps you could dragoon one of our dedicated screencappers, since that's not a particular gift of mine. Still not happy with "Slimed," either, but can't think of anything that's not even sillier. Do we have a precedent for the parenthesized plural form of the page's ame? Seems awkward. Should either be Status Effect or Status Effects IMO. Dämmerung 18:47, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

P.S. This user has 10,000 edits! Mazel Tov!! Dämmerung 18:48, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Your policing of me.
Do you really think that I'm just going around undoing things with reckless abandon? The only reason you undid me was because I didn't leave a message on the user's page. Which, if you look, you'll see their name is in red, and thus they "don't exist". Or if you think undoing an edit that revealed a major plot twist (without a spoiler alert) was overkill, please let me know. 15:38, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * are you even reading the difference in edits! to say i only undid b/c summary is insulting to us both. it means you are not at all reading the text of the articles because only a cretin would not see i REMOVED the empty chest bit.  so which is it?  ill-mannered or intellectually challenged?  - Dr. F

About Tannis pic
Why the summary is missing, I have no idea, probably a mistake on my part, seeing as I remember writing it. The summary should have said something along the lines of "replaced old pic with a better one".

The new pic is of better quality than the original, that's why I replaced it. As you may have noticed, I like taking screenshots and adjusting them and bad-quality in-game images featured in articles bug me. The "old" Tannis pic isn't bad, but the new one is better. Can I put it back?

M0RGION 15:51, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * i disagree. the newer image is closer and blue shifted.  try a forum or the talk page for community consensus.   04:58, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Can you edit here:http://thesupergaming.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity. I have been trying my hardest to make this wiki grow and the wiki itself is kinda a video game encyclopedia. I would really apprecaite it if you edited there because we need fans from different game series to fully expand. As of that i will edit on a wiki you have that needs help or any other wikis that you want me to edit on. Overall thank you for reading!Reviewportal77 22:02, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * similar was tried @ futuregames. best advice i can give is learn to use [[w:c:wikia links like the above to future games.  this interconnectedness can lead users to start with your wiki as a springboard and return to it when starting a new search.  also you might publish a blog every week or so regarding technology and/or control types.   04:58, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

ARR440
where did you find that beautiful AR440, may i ask?
 * which is it you speak of? where is it posted? ive put up a tonne of stuff not all of which is mine. if you can point out the image my memory might catch (on) something. 08:50, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

request
hey i saw your modded guns like red gun and i have willowtree and modio and all that but how can i get red gun on my account?
 * back up save. copy the part chains listed into willowtree.  change legendary/pearl names (interchangeable) as desired.  set level.  save.  convert to console.  save.  check inventory.  note any change other than title(s) is not likely to work as red requires rarity 171 exactly.  enjoy!   01:24, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

suicide zombie
I just did something to the page, I don't know what and I have no idea how to fix it. Can you help, please? Auntarie 18:13, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * i've seen that happen before; still not sure why that happens. a server hiccup most like. a rollback restored the content. kindly have a look though, and make sure all is in order. 18:32, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

did I miss something?
current connection is low-bandwidth, but not that low-bandwidth.... i didn't see anything that would merit a timeout. just curious. Dämmerung 01:03, February 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * User_talk:Daemmerung

Latex
It would appear somebody has been using latex on this wiki. However, latex text is (by default) black text with a white halo. This is unreadable on our wiki. I was going to add some "background=white" to the DPS page, (like on the forum entry), but I was wondering if there was not a backend switch you could set to change the default text color instead? Seems smarter and prettier. happypal (talk &bull; contribs) 13:54, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Interesting. Since I use the wikipedia-ish monobook skin instead of the hideous nu-Wikia default, I didn't see that. Dämmerung 15:16, February 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * im afraid you lost me @ backend switch. maybe smaller words?  more of them?  there is always the possibility of a

template. 18:14, February 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * I meant basically a wiki-wide solution, maybe with css? Or maybe a request at central to change the configs of our latex modules?

so our latex is ingeniously black on black? well, if were going to use it we cant have that now can we?

Front page Forum activity/archive
I changed the front page, because I was sick and tired that every time we archived a thread, it bumped to the top, and pushed out the current threads out of the discussion. Now, archived threads will NOT appear on the front page. I think this is a good thing.

The only "problem", is that if anybody legitimately adds to an archived thread, it will not appear on the front page. IMO, this is still the behaviour we want. It'll still appear in the recent activity, and any change to an archived thread should result in us un-archiving anyways.

I didn't want to edit the front page without an explanation somewhere, should someone be looking for an explanation, or want to react. Sorry it's your talk :p happypal (talk &bull; contribs) 07:51, February 8, 2012 (UTC) no, not at all. very nicely done. ideally, archived threads are archived. if someone has a major contribution we can unarchive it or resurrect the topic. 09:17, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Liaison?
Aww... Liaison again? Now I got to deal with all the UC's and new editors? cant we get CJ to do it or something? 08:31, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
 *  chief  liaison officer. you can have minions too you know.

...Seriously?
I made the "information" the UC posted read like it was written by someone with an appreciation for the English language. Nothing about the post was lost in translation. (If you want to nitpick, I erased the bit about the acid spitting on accident. But even then, why not just add it back in instead of undoing me AGAIN?) I condensed it, made it read like it wasn't written by a third grader, and left it be. The post even had second person pronouns in it, which I gladly got rid of, because of the policy against using them when editing an article.

If you want to make another bulletin at the top of the BL2 pages saying "Feel free to disregard wikia policy when editing here." then be my guest. But I wasn't removing information, I was doing my damn job. If you're going to undo me for that, then feel free to take my admin credentials. 23:31, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

it is a throw away page that need not make sense. there is no fact supported content, _none_, only what GBX feeds out. there is already a notice to this affect on the page. DO _NOT_ revise any pages with a pre-release notice at the top. you have proven yourself untrustworthy in that area. how many times do we need to do this? reset the page please. 23:44, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

No. I combed the page for grammar issues, second person pronouns, and poor sentence structure. I revised nothing, as I've been known to do before. Editing articles is what we do on wikia. If you want me to stop doing that, change the notice at the top of the page to say "Feel free to disregard wikia policy on this page, as until more factual information is present, the powers that be have deemed that spelling, grammar and sentence structure aren't important on any pages with this notice." The current notice only states the nature of information need not be 100% factual. By the textbook definition, I edited the content of the page. I revised nothing. 23:52, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * is this really how you want to end this? over a speculation page?

Nothing needs to "end". I would request that the notice at the top of the page be revised to state that spelling, grammar, lack of pronouns aren't important, and use a term other than "speculation page". "Scratch Page" would be better. The content being posted there is more fit for a blog page, or sub page in a user's profile. Not wikia mainspace. 00:13, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

so.. if someone else were to "clean up" that particular contribution, would it just be set back too? I really don't see where Nohara was wrong Ma, he was just trying to let it flow like the rest of the bl2 pre-release pages... 00:39, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * see page history raz. he deleted a section,  then revised _after_ the edit war.  im tired of this mess. - The Ëvil Dr. F i did instruct him to stay away from speculation pages. see his talk page.

See: "(If you want to nitpick, I erased the bit about the acid spitting on accident. But even then, why not just add it back in instead of undoing me AGAIN?)"  00:47, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * link. i see no apology.

Fair. I had thought I had typed it out here, but for all intents and purposes, I hereby apologize for mistakenly removing a section of the UC's edit pertaning to the Night Stalker page. 00:57, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * wrong page bub.

Well the way i see it is, the "acid ball" part really didn't need to be saved since GBX has released little to no information on them anyways. To be honest, so its a little more pleasant around here, we should just try to avoid adding new pages entirely so arguments like this don't come up. But, who am i to say what stays or goes. 01:04, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Page notice does allow for speculation. I did make a point to put that bit back after editing it out originally. 01:07, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Just to let you both know what Dr.F is doing. UC's are making pages that the staff and community have not gotten around to, as it comes out. Dr.F is honoring the creator. The reason it exists is because there is a need for it and everyone else missed the gun. It is considered a talk page in place of actual information until more information comes forth. 04:59, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Dominion
I need to show the community how the speculation pages are supposed to be a kick ass place to kick back and edit freely. Can I have domain over the speculation pages for a bit? 19:44, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

The community has shown inklings of wanting to do the opposite. Specifically, no one has come out and said that that is what's going to happen. You and I dominated your forum page. And I, as a regular user, said that I would rather that not happen. 19:56, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

You would also rather not let Dr.F handle it as well... Make up your mind. 19:58, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Robot, you are being an ass, here and elsewhere. Knock it off. Dämmerung 20:06, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

+1.  20:15, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

community will now decide what is qualified to go onto coming attractions pages from talk pages. and whats to be removed. by poll vote if nec. 01:19, February 11, 2012 (UTC)