User:Dr. Clayton Forrestor/archive/talk 3

Re: Vandalism report
Hi, Doc. The edit in question was not made by the original author. It was added by an unregistered user, hence the report. Now, perhaps the original editor decided to drop in without logging in and add his or her sexual persuasion, however doubtful that seems. I am disinclined to ask him / her. The other edits on this weapon also contain some distasteful name-calling (which I now think I'll edit out.) At any rate, I deleted the questionable remark. Problem solved. Thanks. Fryguy42 03:46, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

By all means, if you think it will help please do so. I created this thread to, as I stated, get Gearbox's attention. I'd rather showcase the weapon ideas, NOT the fact that some players act like a bunch of right immature gits (as you so succintly put it). Gracias mucho. | The Fry-Man. P.S. When do you sleep??

They squished him!
Hey, just read your comment - Actually, no, we never even tried the Jakobs knockback thing.

Turns out if you get up on the cliffs near his enclosure (to the right of the bridge if you're facing the pen) you can get him to "catch" on the top of the invisible barrier surrounding his pen when he does his weird galloping high jump. You just have to get him close enough to the walls to stop screaming at you before he'll do it. Gotta get another vid posted sometime. 00Average 01:39, May 17, 2010 (UTC) ty.

External image whitelist
Is it possible to add sites with dynamic image content to the whitelist? I figured some userpage customization would be nice, but this wikia doesn't support external images. --Nagamarky 08:49, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * i cc'd LobStoR our interest in this topic and have, as yet, to receive a reply. barring intervention i am going to continue exclusion of external images, preferring server side copies. you may of course appeal, though i rather approve of your animated gif. 13:10, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay. Will let it be, then. --Nagamarky 13:43, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

Team Challenges
Hey, Doc. I'm sure I'd enjoy gaming in a team craw challenge with you, however, I have a few, erm, difficulties right now: Not only do I have no idea what "x-fire" is nor what a "ping" is, I kinda corrupted all of my main character files. (I am a long-time console gamer but I'm pretty new to PC's in general, much less PC gaming. See also No Good Matches) I am now trying to rebuild my Hunter and his weapons on WillowTree but I'm having quite a bit of difficulty. Any help you can tender in that regard (forums, links, videos, etc.) would be greatly appreciated. Fryguy42 00:08, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you happen to have itemcards lying around, I'm sure I/we could help rebuild them. --Nagamarky 00:23, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

If by "old files" you mean the corrupted hunter files then, nope, they're gone. I can open any existing files, e.g. my Soldier build, but the second I make an edit in WT the game kicks me. Fry
 * I (now) have v.WillowTree#Beta10r13(1). Your post reminded me that I needed to d'l the latest version of WT. Looks like progress: no game freezes. (Just turns my Level 61 Soldier into a Level 1 noob. I think I know how that happened.) The update may have solved the problem. Without the game locking up on my I can isolate the original file and mess around with a copy. Thanks much for the help. I'll keep you appraised of any significant progress. Hopefully I'll be back on Pandora soon. The Fry-Man

Apparently "progress" in this case means going from an edit killing the game to an edit returning my Level 61 character to the beginning of the game at Level 1. WTH?? O_o Will dig around and try to straighten this out... Tx. Fryguy42 02:03, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

It appears that renaming the save file I was experimenting with from "Save0001.sav" to "Roland.sav" overrode the other save files. The game would not acknowledge the back-up files (e.g "Save0001 - Copy.sav") at the "Load Character" screen. I deleted the renamed file, copied the cached original file, and added 5 extra skill points with WT as a quick experiment. When I booted up my soldier in BL the game acknowledged the back-up files......and showed me a Solder with 5 extra skill points. :D Looks like I'm good to go. Now I have to go to the The RK Jollies Listing and out myself as a modder. lol. Perhaps you had renamed your .sav file before the game nerfed your soldier... Gracias Mucho. Fryguy42 02:31, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * de nada mon ami! welcome to the other side of closetland, a world without labels! ;0) 08:21, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Team Challenges
I'm back, baby! New And Improved! I ran into an uber-modder friend of mine, (he co-created the Rose Omega) whom I asked to rebuild my Hunter for me. He accommodated....lol, a little too accomodating, really, as now I have:


 * A full skill board with 39 extra skill points
 * A 300-item backpack filled with 80+ constructs and...
 * A bank at Moxxi's with 384 of the sickest mod's I have ever seen.

So...I would be pleased to go on a team challenge with you...If you don't mind my using (realistic) constructs for a little while. It's going to take me a bit to farm a new collection of legit wep's. In the meantime, I will be more than happy to share my mod collection with anyone else, particularly those with an intent to study and learn about rare mod's (e.g. grenade launchers, Jakobs elemental CR's and SMG's, Eridian Shredders, etc.). Feel free to pass the word. I am GMT-5, US CST. Fryguy42 06:29, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Doc. Got your invite, thank you. You were listed as "joinable" but the server failed to connect me. I'm guessing you're hanging out at the Oasis. I haven't successfully installed... something yet. I can chat with the sheep and see what the fashion worm is wearing but can't connect to a map. I'll keep banging away at it. Really looking forward to raiding the Crow's Nest before you guys wipe it out. Fryguy42 05:14, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * The main Crow's Nest upk goes in mapslot 2. Damn, you guys are on now? I just finished a run. --Nagamarky 05:57, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Doh! Sunday morning. and yes you must follow the instructions exactly. just put oasis and 'slots in maps (vice scrap - per readme v2.28451h). 06:37, May 30, 2010 (UTC) ps - get x-fire both y'all.
 * Time to revive my old account. User shotgunwars nick nagamarky. --Nagamarky 08:03, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Meggawatts' pages
User has been using main namespace as userpage; Team Player. I can't move to the user namespace, so will need admin help on this one. Thanks in advance. --Nagamarky 20:12, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Userbox suggestion
Userboxs are fantastic. You know what would be super-fantastic? Userboxes for the new user-created dlc's. Fryguy42 01:20, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

see this and approve or disapprove. 02:48, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

You know what else is fantastic? Xfire. :)  (I tried to make one myself, with little success.) Fryguy42 18:19, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

{raspy voice} Something, something, something, userbox. Something, something, something, complete. {raspy voice} Fryguy42 19:03, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks.... Fryguy42 19:03, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Please see my sample userboxes for Xfire and The Fifth Column. I've gone about as far as I know how. Params and images seem to be above my level. Tx. Fryguy42 18:02, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

I've made progress with the new userboxes. (kinda bypassed the params for now) The thing I can't figure out is the image. Can you direct me to a resource that'll help me figure out how to add images to the code? Much appreciated. Fryguy42 23:35, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Gained a level. Now a Level 2 UBX creator. (lol)

Thanks for the help. Fryguy42 19:05, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * very good, sir. well done. 20:21, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Notice
Yeah, I kinda moved it to the bottom of the page. Seemed a little heavy for a light-hearted page. Also, I didn't want the first thing people see to be (what looks like) "your ideas belong to me..." I was a little confused by the wording, too. Fryguy42 16:14, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Could you do me a solid and add the caption "MechaKnoxx" to the Missions/Mods pic of Knoxx? That will help tie it to the Missions section of the Test Hall. Also, thanks for shrinking the Oasis pic. It was oversized but I didn't know how to change the size. I do now. My image editing prof's have gone up a few levels. ^_^ Fryguy42 19:13, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Killed Crawmerax userbox
Hey doc, I went ahead and made a killed crawmerax userbox tightly based on the original since you said you didn't know how to make one with params. However I have a habit of not editing wtfwidely used things (might break 'em), so if you would like to do it, yeah... Ipuvaepe 00:34, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * yea, someone reads talk pages! thank you, nice work.   00:47, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

signatures?
hiya there... just wanna ask for the code of a normal sig with my username linked to user page and talk and contribs or something in superscript. i completely forgot how... and im sick of picture signatures which i do remember how to 4 some reason. thanks in advance

IDave Ja Vu

IDave Ja Vu = IDave Ja Vu 07:14, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

IDave Ja Vu talk contribs - as to where to put it, I have no idea. I know something goes in signature then something goes in a template and whatnot, but gotta ask Dr. F for that. --Nagamarky 07:58, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * ^if you copy paste (edit- nagamarky's example) the above, it will do fine. template page only required if format/boxing/images. 09:29, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * ps - doh! i missed superscript, busy at moxxi's ;0P
 * IDave Ja Vu talk contribs
 * Just copypasta. --Nagamarky 11:48, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

ha thanks both of you, but im gonna go with nagamarky's, it's easier for the other members to follow IDave Ja Vu talk contribs 23:25, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Possible vandalism
I just noted that the page Chiquito Amigo weapon page was edited, with some of the weapons abilities removed. the comment left was "Who writes these pages?!" This was by Magamarky.

I added "Significantly increased accuracy when zoomed", obviously zooming helps you be more accurate, however I noticed that this weapon had more then the normal amount of accuracy gain whilst zoomed, I believe due to the red text.

Lemmie know about this,

Thanks

Xeno


 * All of the percentages are from parts, which are irrelevant considering the 87 bazillion permutations. Also, will add back the zoom if that is what you found. --Nagamarky 04:58, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

dlc3_gd_weap_UniqueParts.RepeaterPistol.Material_ChiquitoAmigo_3 PartName="-B" CashValueModifier=WeaponPartCost4_Rare Rarity=WeaponPartRarity4_Rare WeaponDamage=-0.050000 WeaponSpread=0.150000 WeaponReloadSpeed=-1.000000

dlc3_gd_weap_UniqueParts.RepeaterPistol.barrel0_ChiquitoAmigo PartName="ChiquitoAmigo" CashValueModifier=WeaponPartCost2_Uncommon TechLevelIncrease=4 Rarity=WeaponPartRarity2_Uncommon MaxAccuracy=-0.500000 MinAccuracy=-0.120000 WeaponDamage=-0.250000 WeaponFireRate=-1.000000 WeaponClipSize=2.500000,None WeaponPerShotAccuracyImpulse=-2.000000

I went and checked. Nothing on scoped accuracy. Compare this to the Bessie's 100%-accurate sight.

dlc3_gd_weap_UniqueParts.SniperRifle.sight4_Jakobs_Bessie CashValueModifier=WeaponPartCost6_Legendary Rarity=WeaponPartRarity6_Legendary WeaponDamage=0.300000 WeaponSpread=-100.0000

Since the only way to improve sighted accuracy is with a sight's modifier, and the Chiquito Amigo does not always come with a scope, it's probably not under the coverage of its special weapon effect. --Nagamarky 05:06, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion
Change the name of the Missions/Mods thread to either "3PDLC" or "3rd Party DLC" "End-User Created Content" and redirect searches for TCN, TFC, The Oasis, Test Hall, and DLC Fast Travel to this thread. The current name does not seem like an intuitive place to look for 3PDLC info. This one's way above my editor level. :D Fryguy42 19:38, June 5, 2010 (UTC) Gracias por el capcione.

Missions/mods wasn't intended as a final resting place as it's a bit out of the way. Let's ask around and get a concensus as to what stands up to scrutiny and then I'll give it it's own page vice subpage of missions. Sound good!?! And I want my scalps. 01:34, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * as a page title I must confess a preference for end-user created content. So that's my vote. (grammar and punctuation by iPad)


 * consider that the page is not solely devoted to missions per se. It includes content about the DLC Fast Travel Hubs, the test hall, and The Oasis as well. Fryguy42 01:39, June 6, 2010 (UTC) up to .04¢ now.

Mommy's sleeping. Challenge? Fryguy42 04:05, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * yes. the mission is 'mommy drinks because you cry' winner is the one who makes the least noise over a 24hour period.  losers get beatings all around.   06:36, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

welcome
Hey, I'm the person who edited the ajax's spear article earlier with an unregistered account. Just thought I'd make an account as per your request. Also, I'm kind of a noob to the whole wiki thing, so I'm sorry if this isn't where I was supposed to leave this message. :O

Piriko 18:58, June 7, 2010 (UTC)Piriko
 * welcome to the wiki piriko! and this is exactly the right place for messages.  if you need practice, try editing your user page and talk page.   22:29, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

72.40.78.47
Yeah.... I think that's Bjorn; sorry, will check contribs more thoroughly in future --Nagamarky 04:51, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * i did not block registered users so he can log on and edit. he should now be aware of the VDA crew.   05:03, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Uniques cleanup issue(s)
What am I to do with this? --Nagamarky 08:46, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * move everything irrelevant to the talk page. even if it is every note on the page. 08:50, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Marginally irrelevant to topic, but still cleanup: are you planning to delete those migration residues? --Nagamarky 09:11, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, but....
I noticed the recent addition to my profile. Thanks a lot, but I have to admit; I didn't actually write that line about the Cardboard Devastator, only the one after it.

I wouldn't feel right getting credit for something I didn't do.

Cheers, Bukkithead 12:59, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * drat! 13:01, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * P
 * Weird thing is, I have no idea who did that. They didn't sign it or anything. Thanks anyway :)
 * Weird thing is, I have no idea who did that. They didn't sign it or anything. Thanks anyway :)

That would have to be 64.13.23.92 --Nagamarky 13:13, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Editing Help
I took some screenshots to upload as pictures for the pages listed as needing them (Crimson Tollway, Crawmerax's Lair, etc.) but I have no idea how to put them into the infobox like all of the other pages.

I click on the green template icon to edit the box, but I can't see any way of adding a picture.

Help please? Bukkithead 14:50, June 8, 2010 (UTC) 15:40, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * sorry, d1g's infobox requires "| map        = File:Example.jpg" without quotes.   16:01, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Haha. Thanks for the user of the day nod. Glad I could make you smile.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 01:52, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

I like the "Healthfood Shack" angle. It sounds very new-agey. Maybe I could market it as a new diet food store to help drum up some business.GT: ConceitedJarrad XBOX360 02:48, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Excuse me,

how do you make one of those picture signatures like the one you use? Colonel198 03:17, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * see above and suggestions on your talk page.

I dont really know what that is...but sure! :D thank you ^^ {{subst:User:Colonel198/TheSubpage} 05:07, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Its awesome! thx :) except im too dumb to know how to use it XD does copy and paste work? sorry to bother you with this &#123;&#123;subst:User:Colonel198/TheSubpage} 05:20, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * yes copy everything from the space after = to just before the beginning of my signature and paste over your sig on your subpage. ps see User:Colonel198/pref.   05:23, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

ok i understood everything untill the part where im supposed to paste my prefs page over to my user preferences. where is that? Colonel 1   9   8 05:36, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Jabberwocky.png  the frumious fry   03:59, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

04:04, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Two cyans titles
That's proven to be the most successful approach so far for reaching high rarity levels but I've also noticed other things such as the cyclops title seems to work just as well as a cyan title. I'm still experimenting around but any help would be appreciated. - Pimps'N'Giggles Talk 05:38, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

It has to be real!...right? I assume that the tsunami is a construct with the bitch title but what about the nemesis? - Pimps'N'Giggles Talk 14:47, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Jee whiz sir! I might have to take a shot at making some of those if you don't mind. You got any pages for uberwhite, ubergreen, and yellow? Lol - Pimps'N'Giggles Talk 16:02, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

If you hit 172 does that make it white? Also could you list the parts for the invader nemesis as well? Thanks for all the help.- Pimps'N'Giggles Talk 17:12, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Nah I don't need it now. I won't be able to get on WT until this weekend...*sigh* - Pimps'N'Giggles Talk 17:38, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Any chance you could get those red codes posted by this weekend?...again thanks for all the help! - 13:54, June 10, 2010 (UTC) How do you know the exact rarity value of a gun your trying to make? - 03:33, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * yes. and thank you for switching to the transcluded sig. 18:54, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * gearcalc on blmodding pages. 09:38, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Likely vandalism
An unregistered user with an IP of 74.75.178.170 just deleted the entire text on the thread entitled "Why I Started Modding" which I consider to be deliberate vandalism because there was no reason given for the deletion -and if the thread has been a candidate for deletion, I should have expected that a registered user would have given a reason why after the proper deletion process. How does one undo the last edit made to a page to deal with things like this (or if one accidentally screwed a page up) and revert to an older version? --Skeve613 17:45, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Willowtree article
User:Meggawatts made one. My opinion? Shouldn't be here. It will tend to reignite any and every modding debate, and the amount of information we will need to put up is just stupid, in more ways than one. --Nagamarky 19:40, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

I don't mean to upset or debate with anyone but I honestly think its a good idea. WT is a big part of the game for some people so why not make an article on it. It will definitely need a lot of info in it though and that might be tedious. - 20:04, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

i got it now thank you ^^ 21:30, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

haha thx that was just a prototype i was trying to see how coding the signatures worked. what confuses me is that wasnt the picture i meant to post. i dont even have a pic like that on my computer. the file name is right tho. 02:36, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

As long as the WillowTree article is an actual article page and not posted in the forums, I don't see it as a bad thing. I've already had so many people asking me about how to use WT that I've started working on a guide on my user page, so a dedicated page would definitely not go unused. One way or another, WT is a major component of the Borderlands experience for a large number of users on this Wiki. Vandalism, however, could be a problem if arguments did get heated. Skeve613 18:38, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

It's still a work in progress as far as I am concerned, as I am just having the time to start working on it again with final exams having ended this last week. I am flattered that you are considering adding it to the page, let me know what you think of it, I think it still needs work though, as I haven't gotten to detailing more specifics yet. Skeve613 19:18, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

DrF
You are my favorite contributor here on the Borderlands wiki.

Thats why I'd like to see you on aim.

~zombieaspir

Slege's Prized Possession... yep. Where are you anyhows?184.76.189.64 02:00, June 11, 2010 (UTC)AspiR
 * . . .was sleeping (yawn), im awake now. im up im up, no mom i wont miss the bus. mmmph. 06:05, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

re: Community
{yawn} Everybody used to be so friendly and supportive of each other on this wiki. Nowadays it seems to have disintegrated from a community to the barrio complete with turf (burn) wars. I was specifically referring to Nagamarky's Video Challenge page where everyone was trying to rip Nag's a new virtual pooper, but, in general, we are getting a failing grade in "water fountain." (Maybe I'll come back later and tidy this up when I'm awake. {yawn} stupid job) Fryguy42 15:16, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * nomad clearly stated whining would not be tolerated. dotfalcodot is new and has a bad case of pearl envy. stick around, its cyclic, you learn to stick with yer mates and tolerate others or quit the wiki til you can stomach it again. and in regards to the job - ill take a number 5 supersize w/ diet coke please. oh and a roll of tokens, to go(DLR ref). 15:27, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, was ALN's page, anyhow. I figured I'd correct this unsigned while I was signing but well you can see where that went. Yup, so much for community. --Nagamarky 15:30, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Doc. I'd like to add an archive to my talk page. Is that something I can do? Or a sysop.....? Thanks. Fry 3:16, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Make a red link to a subpage, e.g. User talk:Fryguy42/archive, then dump the old logs there. --Nagamarky 04:36, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Looks tres spiff, Doc. Thanks much. Umm... how do I use it? Fryguy42 23:34, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Moving WillowTree guide
I am thinking that the guide I am making for WillowTree is becoming a bit too large for my user page. I've noticed that several users like yourself and Nagamarky have extra Notes pages with your game information. How would I go about making such a page? Would I move my user page with the guide and rename it, then recreate my original user page? I would like to clean up my user page and simply put a link to a Notes page at the top, but I would be the first to admit that I my knowledge of website formatting is nowhere near my knowledge of BL. Skeve613 00:31, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Tried the suggestion for my sig like you said, and got the Ask Dr. Hax link to the talk page to work out great. Only thing is that my sig doesn't link to my user page anymore because it's white text, and I am not sure how to have it do that if I want. Suggestions, or should I just leave it that way? Skeve613ask Dr. Hax 18:06, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: realized I was being a total dumbass and the link wasn't working because I practiced signing on my own user page... sigh... Skeve613ask Dr. Hax 18:08, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * (sngkgkt) s'okay buddy (cough). done it myself once or twice (chuckle). nice touch striking your previous vice redacting/removing. see kids this is what mamma's harpin' on y'all to take after folks what got class. 18:29, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * My foolishness and idiocy is someone else's amusement, oh well, as least this way people know I'm not trying to cover up my mistakes. The Dr. Hax sig is probably the most awesome thing I have seen in quite some time on the Wiki; could you send me a sig code for me to use it? Trying to understand the lines and lines of code on my own is a bit beyond me. Skeve613ask Dr. Hax 21:32, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

See http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Scooter --Skeve613ask Dr. Hax 21:43, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Hope I didn't mess that page up too much, I'll fix it if it isn't already put back to normal. Really appreciated the sig, it looks pretty awesome. I think I'd better start learning how to work in source mode on the Wiki so I don't have to keep pestering you with these queries. 22:24, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

I think getting input from PS3 users would be an excellent idea. What I have so far is my personal experience based on working with 360 save files, but making the guide as comprehensive as possible is my goal. Would a forum thread be the best way to get people to contribute though? I would like as much input as possible and or each contributer to get credit where it is due, but to keep the guide organized in well, my way so it it stays cohesive. 21:11, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

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.Falco. keeps deleting my posts from http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Can_expensive_weapons_really_be_UBER_expensive%3F%3F I warned him to stop but he deleted again. So ... I deleted his. Sorry for any inconvenience. -- MeMadeIt 22:55, June 14, 2010 (UTC)